JamieThePainter
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Oil and whales, mate. Dunno if they still hunt whales but they did when I was there.
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printer
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So Norway can double their military expenditure when they have a lower 67% lower GDP than Sweden "with spare change"?
JamieThePainter
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Take it up with the guy who made the claim. I was just offering insights.
eta: tbf though, they could probably pay for Sweden's military with what they charge for a pint.
disclaimer: the above edit, although partially true, is not to be taken entirely seriously.
My bad, I fell for a misleading headline.
Moflow
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Attack it again and sink that fecker for good.
DIY-HP-LED
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If they wished they could finance Sweden and Finland too, I'm not saying they do now, but in the event of war, they might well give them whatever financial resources they require.
How much is Norway's sovereign wealth fund worth?
$1.3 trillion
Why it matters: Valued at $1.3 trillion, Norway's state-backed investment fund is the largest in the world.Feb 27, 2022
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Sweden's defence budget for 2021 is about 66 billion kronor ($6.7bn), and the country had already agreed to raise that level to 91 billion kronor ($9.3bn) by 2025. In 2020, its defence budget amounted to 1.2 percent of GDP, increasing to about 1.5 percent in the next few years with the investments already announced.Mar 10, 2022
Sweden announces plan for significant boost in military ...https://www.aljazeera.com › news › sweden-announces-pl...
printer
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Military culture is Ukraine’s secret weapon
The Financial Times’ Tim Judah offers a telling example of Ukrainian ingenuity and initiative in the Battle of Kyiv. He describes how “Moscow’s forces were thwarted … by pieces of foam mat — the Ukrainians call them karemats — costing as little as (C$2.50). The mats prevent Russian thermal imaging drones from detecting human heat. ‘We held the karemats over our head,’ said (battalion commander Oleksandr) Konoko, explaining how his men moved stealthily in tiny groups at night.
In that way, soldiers armed with anti-tank weapons supplied by the U.S., Britain and others could sneak up on the Russians, fire their deadly and accurate missiles and then slip away.”
winnipeg-can.newsmemory.com
Got to love it.
The Financial Times’ Tim Judah offers a telling example of Ukrainian ingenuity and initiative in the Battle of Kyiv. He describes how “Moscow’s forces were thwarted … by pieces of foam mat — the Ukrainians call them karemats — costing as little as (C$2.50). The mats prevent Russian thermal imaging drones from detecting human heat. ‘We held the karemats over our head,’ said (battalion commander Oleksandr) Konoko, explaining how his men moved stealthily in tiny groups at night.
In that way, soldiers armed with anti-tank weapons supplied by the U.S., Britain and others could sneak up on the Russians, fire their deadly and accurate missiles and then slip away.”
Winnipeg
winnipeg-can.newsmemory.com
Got to love it.
printer
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I have taken it up before. We have been pretty good on this forum at not sharing unsubstantiated information. Mostly.
printer
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Where is your pension my friend? Will you be happy to see it used to pay for another country's military?
JamieThePainter
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Think the words were "could" and not "would."
BudmanTX
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that's genius of them.......Military culture is Ukraine’s secret weapon
The Financial Times’ Tim Judah offers a telling example of Ukrainian ingenuity and initiative in the Battle of Kyiv. He describes how “Moscow’s forces were thwarted … by pieces of foam mat — the Ukrainians call them karemats — costing as little as (C$2.50). The mats prevent Russian thermal imaging drones from detecting human heat. ‘We held the karemats over our head,’ said (battalion commander Oleksandr) Konoko, explaining how his men moved stealthily in tiny groups at night.
In that way, soldiers armed with anti-tank weapons supplied by the U.S., Britain and others could sneak up on the Russians, fire their deadly and accurate missiles and then slip away.”
Winnipeg
Got to love it.
BudmanTX
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i'm all in for another round.....
printer
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The point was that saying Norway could pay $6B out of spare change implies that Norway government was raking in the cash. Looking at the GDP number it did not seem to be the case.
DIY-HP-LED
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I often write from memory and don't research every post, nor do I need too. Point out when I'm wrong, I'm here to learn too.
printer
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I say grab it themselves and bronze it like a pair of baby shoes and put it on display after the war at Odessa.
JamieThePainter
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Well they do have a better GDP per capita than Sweden, USA and Canada, plus they have a huge oil fund stashed away. So I'd say it wouldn't be an untruth to say they were "raking in the cash."
printer
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It takes so little time to check your facts. You post enough words, check and post a message half as long. You said you could not handle the Russian propaganda pieces I showed that was being used to brainwash the Russian people. How are your posts any better? I know you are bright enough and can do better. Just too lazy? Put a disclaimer in your sig line saying posts may not be factual.
DIY-HP-LED
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Better than being a slave with nothing. Norway would consider an attack on Finland a threat and so would Sweden. Their wealth fund is the result of funds accumulated over decades of oil and gas sales. A country of 5.3 million can afford the pension fund hit, if required. Their security under NATO is fine, but they wouldn't want Russians for neighbors in an occupied Sweden.
None of it is likely to happen in the near future, Vlad has I believe 75% or more of his combat brigades in Ukraine now, or committed there and Russia is a big country to defend.
printer
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So if the 40,000 citizens of Monaco has a much higher GDP to person ratio than Sweden does that mean they can out pay Sweden in defense spending?
DIY-HP-LED
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Mostly because it's for amusement and to try out ideas, it's not academic work here, I mostly post opinion with news stories, sometimes I even disagree with the opinions of others that I post. I often label sources as probable propaganda and both sides are not the same here either, the Ukrainians have the world's media looking over their shoulders and the Russians don't care, except for the domestic audience.
Yes I'm lazy, sue me.