Fuck it/Enough is Enough

[PJ Diaz]

I mean wow, look at all these people not giving a fuck about the war in Iraq.
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That pic was also taken in London. For some reason I assumed that we were talking about the US.

 

[JamieThePainter]

Someone asked a question.

I know it was, yet I still posted these same thoughts before you were here, yet I "jumped in".

You can still jump in on a conversation regardless of when I joined the site, mate lol.

 

[JamieThePainter]

That pic was also taken in London. For some reason I assumed that we were talking about the US.

That's because you're US-centric. We were talking about the Western world.

 

[PJ Diaz]

So I had evidence that suggested the West did give a fuck about the Iraq war and you have fuck all evidence to suggest otherwise.

Good chat lol.

I guess I should have been more specific and said that MOST of the Western World didn't seem to give a fuck. You will always find dissenters to every issue.

 

[mooray]

You can still jump in on a conversation regardless of when I joined the site, mate lol.

I posted in here on this topic of race before you, mate. Maybe you just jumped in..?

 

[PJ Diaz]

That's because you're US-centric. We were talking about the Western world.

That's a fair point, but it doesn't mean that the Western World at large gave a fuck.

 

[JamieThePainter]

And again, can you provide any evidence that MOST of the western world didn't seem to give a fuck. Everyone I knew did and I mean everyone.

Don't assume your group is a reflection society as a whole. I mean I'm not, but I'm not claiming MOST of the west didn't care.

 

[JamieThePainter]

@mooray I think that you and I are essentially arguing the same thing but I think you've taken my posts a touch wrong along the way.

 

[zeddd]

Not really. It's a fact that an orange is orange. I don't need to provide proof to back that up. If you think I'm wrong, the burden of proof is on you to prove that I'm wrong.

In your illogical proof an orange is a phrase, it is not a physical orange, hence the previous post by another recommending nuance over binary non-reality

 

[PJ Diaz]

So I had evidence that suggested the West did give a fuck about the Iraq war and you have fuck all evidence to suggest otherwise.

Good chat lol.

Usually when someone speaks about a group belief, the implication is that the belief is that is of the majority of said group, not that it is a belief shared by the entirety of the population. I know that yo already knew that though, and you are just grasping at straws, because that's all you have.

 

[PJ Diaz]

Yep, but this is a discussion that happened within the thread. Someone claimed that the west only cared about Ukraine because they were white. I came on to say that this was not the case. Then you arrive to call my view binary or whatever. Good stuff.

Question: do you believe that Ukraine being white makes white people more sympathetic to their cause vs their sympathies towards non-white nations in similar situations?

 

[mooray]

@mooray I think that you and I are essentially arguing the same thing but I think you've taken my posts a touch wrong along the way.

It looked like you saw the topic of race/color and blew it up into something way too big. All he did was ask a question and explain how it plays a role, which it does. You seemed to take offense to that, complaining about race sensitive while being overly race sensitive yourself. That's how it looked to me.

 

[JamieThePainter]

Usually when someone speaks about a group belief, the implication is that the belief is that is of the majority of said group, not that it is a belief shared by the entirety of the population. I know that yo already knew that though, and you are just grasping at straws, because that's all you have.

.... I never said you spoke of the entire population. I asked for evidence that MOST of the population didn't give a fuck. Stop shifting those goal posts.

 

[JamieThePainter]

It looked like you saw the topic of race/color and blew it up into something way too big. All he did was ask a question and explain how it plays a role, which it does. You seemed to take offense to that, complaining about race sensitive while being overly race sensitive yourself. That's how it looked to me.

I didn't take offense to it, I questioned the validity of the claim.

 

[zeddd]

That pic was also taken in London. For some reason I assumed that we were talking about the US.

Maybe it’s because he’s a Londoner...the EE loves London tan

 

[PJ Diaz]

.... I never said you spoke of the entire population. I asked for evidence that MOST of the population didn't give a fuck. Stop shifting those goal posts.

Hey man, if you want to hold a delusional belief that most people in the Western World gave a fuck about the civilians being killed for decades in Iraq at the hands of the Western Governments, I am not going to change that for you no matter what evidence I present. You are obviously cemented firmly in your opinions.

 

[zeddd]

Question: do you believe that Ukraine being white makes white people more sympathetic to their cause vs their sympathies towards non-white nations in similar situations?

Putin who has dark triad personality and more nukes than an asteroid strike is the problem. It’s got nothing to do with you white people and your guilt

 

[PJ Diaz]

Putin who has dark triad personality and more nukes than an asteroid strike is the problem. It’s got nothing to do with you white people and your guilt

The US has about the same amount of nukes, so why is it ok for us to invade other countries and kill civilians?

 

[zeddd]

The US has about the same amount of nukes, so why is it ok for us to invade other countries and kill civilians?

Russia has way more, but you know that, right?

 

[PJ Diaz]

Russia has way more, but you know that, right?

"As of 2022, the Federation of American Scientists estimates that Russia possesses 5,977 nuclear weapons, while the United States has 5,428; Russia and the U.S. each have about 1,600 active deployed strategic nuclear warheads "

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction