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0potato0

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Azov Battalion, Right sector and Freikorps (all right wing/nazi paramilitary organizations) fighters reportedly not taken prisoner but shot on the spot
 

zeddd

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Thanks Jimi

You are describing 21st century statecraft and politics better than I.
Yes but kyiv is going to be re-built on a foundation of glass. All talk of conventional warfare extending to the end of this conflict is wishful thinking.
How does this end? Today I’m torn between buying tickets for the Fury Whyte fight or buying a Geiger counter to check food next week. If I buy either, I’m assuming the other won’t happen
 

0potato0

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Africans were not allowed to board the train to Lvov.

They were not allowed on the train until there was a free seat on the train after boarding all Ukrainians who wanted to leave. As a result, they missed several trains.

First Ukrainians, then blacks.


 

CCGNZ

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Pakistan just announced a trade deal with Russia and India with china are like half the worlds population.
China is the snake in the grass here,they in the end will do what is best for China,like for instance retake Vlodivlostoc on the Pacific ocean which was Ming dynasty territory w/a weakened Russia don't put it past them,in addition the trade and$ are in the West,Pakistan? a 3rd world country w/nukes who can't even keep the lights on 24hrs.,India is warming up w/US and West to deter their main adversary,China
 

CCGNZ

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That is the viewpoint of most Americans. Like you, I consider Putin to be a threat to everybody, not just outside of Russia but inside too. He's a threat like Hitler was although his military seems more inept. The people of Nazi Germany were saved from Hitler's plans by their losing the war. Imagine if after defeating Europe and Russia what they would have had to do to keep it? Auschwitz was not just for the Jews. Hitler planned to depopulate all of eastern Europe to make room for his master race. I can only imagine what kind of atrocities the common German soldier would be ordered to commit in order to carry out Hitler's plans after winning the war. The best thing to happen for WW2 German soldiers was that the allies defeated them.

But I'm not saying the US should take part in the fight with Ukraine. That would escalate the violence into total war and Ukraine would become a battlefield in all out war. I support US and NATO giving Ukraine everything it needs to carry out its war with Putin. I'm careful to say that this is a war with Putin, not the people of Russia. I don't think this war has very much support inside of Russia. I'm curious what @0potato0 has to say about that.
I 'm glad I'm only 1/4 German,otherwise I'd be searching a guilty past,I absolutely agree about Russia and I genuinely respect these people and their country,I certainly don't blame them being born into a police state where contrarians disappear and would be happy to see Russia come West politically.Mercy is underestimated in treating the vanquished,Germany was ripe to exploit by Hitler due to the Allies(the French in particular) really putting the screws to Germany after WW1's Versailles treaty which relished punishing Germany in spades,so if Russia can put Putin on the shelf w/ a new govt. and then recognize Ukraine's sovereignty while attempting reparations,the West would to well to remember history in dealing w/Russia.
 

CCGNZ

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I am saying that by using the Belt and Road china built Russia doesn't need the west anymore
China's Belt and Road is a Ponzi Scheme,it's goal,to bribe poor countries w/infrastructure investment,then have them default on payment,which in turn China forecloses by annexing territory for ports or bases,it's schylocking on a international scale,capeche
 
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