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Are you conveniently comparing trade in general with gas dependence? Trading medicine and agricultural machines for vodka and rubles isn’t quite the same as being dependent on Russia‘s gas to keep the lights and heaters on. There’s little to any dependence in our trade with Russia, won’t change a thing for the average Joe. Obviously regular trade will be decreased a lot by the current sanctions, it’s the gas supply, 300million usd per day, that’s one the table now. Germany depends more on it than any other EU country and more than a lot of those east bloc countries combined. Spare me whaboutisms, own it, do something about it.sure sure 30 years to just buy from somewhere else? nice "experts" you got there
Economic cooperation - Embassy of the Russian Federation in the Netherlands
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Holland has a population of 17.3mio whereas Germany has 83,4mio ppl.
And yet you import so massively from Russia even surpassing other lands easily that are way way more populous than you.
All things considered on a per-capita basis Holland is about ~~3 times more dependant on Russia than us.
Germany imports roughly 10x more gas from Russia than NL does while the population is only 5x as high. 15% of gas use in NL is from Russia, in Germany it’s over 50%. We export gas to Germany and several other eu countries and switzerland… While in Germany a quarter of households is being connected to natural gas, increasing its dependence on Russian gas to 70% of total consumption, subsidized, NL is unhooking the same number of households from gas, replacing it with proper renewable energy instead of some cheap - heavily criticized - cheap way to replace oil/coal. By the time Germany will be finished implementing gas, we won’t be using it anymore for anything essential.
And no, 20-30 years for a proper energy transition, not to patch the problem.