January 6th hearings on Trump's failed insurrection.

GoatSoup said:
I think that sedition to the Constitution is the most henious of crimes and the Law should be equal for all. I can only hope Garland is forming his case aginst tRump, but it is hard to tell from the outside. Since Obama let Darth Cheney off frm his war crimes I have been increasingly skeptical of out nations comitment to the Rule of Law and it universal application.
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Asking from ignorance-
what war crimes?
 
hanimmal said:
Agreed. although I am talking about the people who would give him a billion dollars for his stupid new scam, or all those donors/dark money scams from 2015-onwards. Just dismantle the funding of the entire hate mongering propaganda network that has been ripping us apart since at least Sarah Palin.

Those are the ones Trump can roll over on.
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if they can force him to do a damn thing...the evil prick seems charmed, at least as far as legal repercussions go...he's responsible for so much misery in the world, and nothing ever happens to the fat old fucker, they take down people who did shit for him, it's known they were doing shit for him, but he's above the law, somehow
 
Roger A. Shrubber said:
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a35397/bush-cheney-war-crimes/

https://www.technewsiit.com/dick-cheney-war-criminal
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Interesting. I found that Esquire link earlier and thought “nah can’t be it” because it is without consequence. It is symbolic at best, even as I agree with the conclusion.

I believe the fact that our government still operates Guantánamo as an extralegal dungeon is a blot on our legitimacy as a civilized nation. I rather expected Biden to shut it down in an executive order within weeks of having taken office. It would help with normalizing relations with Cuba and heading toward freer trade.
 
As Trump Plans Speech for Jan. 6, Insurrection Defendants Claim they Acted at Trump's Direction

Donald Trump recently announced that he intends to hold a press conference on January 6, the one-year anniversary of the deadly attack on the US Capitol by Trump's supporters. This, while the Department of Justice is prosecuting more than 700 Trump supporters who participated in the insurrection. Notably, many of the defendants have claimed both in and out of court that they acted as they did on January 6 because they were directed to do so by Donald Trump.

Here's hoping that the Department of Justice will act soon to hold Donald Trump accountable - in accordance with the overwhelming evidence of his criminal conduct - for inciting the insurrection.
 
Roger A. Shrubber said:
if they can force him to do a damn thing...the evil prick seems charmed, at least as far as legal repercussions go...he's responsible for so much misery in the world, and nothing ever happens to the fat old fucker, they take down people who did shit for him, it's known they were doing shit for him, but he's above the law, somehow
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yes, yes..he..does.
 
CatHedral said:
Interesting. I found that Esquire link earlier and thought “nah can’t be it” because it is without consequence. It is symbolic at best, even as I agree with the conclusion.


I believe the fact that our government still operates Guantánamo as an extralegal dungeon is a blot on our legitimacy as a civilized nation. I rather expected Biden to shut it down in an executive order within weeks of having taken office. It would help with normalizing relations with Cuba and heading toward freer trade.
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Pepperidge farms remembers when we expected Obama to close gitmo. I was pleasantly surprised biden came through on pulling out troops.

I think the dems should push fixing the relationship with Cuba, its a stupid embargo for stupid reasons. I would point out that it would hurt the Democrats in Florida, but I kind of view that state as a lost cause, and that Cuban vote is not likely to ever go D.
 
captainmorgan said:
Trump set up his 2016 GOP Convention HQ in a Cleveland hotel owned by UKRAINIAN RuMOB BOSS IHOR KOLOMOISKY? Where they changed the GOP platform to leave Ukraine undefended?


www.post-gazette.com

PG SPECIAL REPORT | With shadowy money, Ukraine oligarch became Cleveland’s biggest landlord

For Ukraine oligarch Ihor Kolomoisky, the Westin hotel in Cleveland that he owns with partners became the center of the most powerful Republican gathering...
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vipers come to mind..

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“It's going to be really hard to convict him here in part because I don't think we have a Nixon Watergate-style smoking gun,” Hemel said, noting that even if a jury is filled with people who “hate Trump with every bone in our body,” they might be hesitant to convict him of obstructing an official proceeding."

Trump is a weasel that has had 60 years of skirting the law. He gets people around him that will do his bidding without him giving a direct order. They just 'knew' what it is he asks for. Like his speech to the crowd, he gives a small print "be peaceful' at the end. Legal cover. The Democrats know they have to have an iron clad case otherwise it would be Impeachment 3.0, nothing happens to Trump other than his people being more convinced the new evidence is just a witch hunt.
 
Follow the money... These guys are working through the holidays getting ready for the public hearings in January.
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Trump Spokesman Financial Records Could ‘Paint A Picture’ Of Jan 6 Involvement

Phil Rucker, Harry Litman, and NBC’s Ali Vitali join Joe Fryer to discuss Trump spokesman Taylor Budowich’s lawsuit against the January 6th Committee’s request for access to his financial records. Budowich’s financial records could “paint a picture of the financing of the January rally, to the extent that he was involved in helping pay for them or at least helping frontload some of those expenses,” says Rucker. He believes Budowich’s lawsuit has committee members questioning, “what exactly is he
 
House Select Committee Investigates 3-Hour Delay In Trump Calling Off the Attack on the US Capitol

As the Department of Justice inexplicably seems to be standing back and standing by, the House select committee is full speed ahead investigating the January 6 crimes of Donald Trump.

New reporting in the Washington Post relates the the 1/6 committee is turning its investigative attention to the three hours it took for Trump to finally call off his angry mob. And new reporting from the Guardian reveals that the committee is also digging in to the phone call Trump placed to his Willard Hotel war council in the run-up to the Capitol attack and suggesting that Rudy Giuliani may soon be on the receiving end of a congressional subpoena.
 
I can only imagine what it would do to moral at the DOJ if Garland doesn't indict Trump and his henchmen over the insurrection. The DOJ alumni is patient, but soon that patience will wear out, he should be doing a parallel investigation at least to gather evidence. I can understand him waiting for the 1/6 panel to finish and issue it's report, even waiting for NY to tie Donald down, but sooner or later Garland must act. Right about now FBI interviews should be scaring the shit out of potential witnesses and locking down stories and facts. The only good I can see the delay doing, is to push when the shit hits the fan into an election year where it will remind the public of 1/6 and might do more good. It also gives Donald more time to fuck up the republican party and steal all their small dollar funding for his legal expenses. The house races depend on small dollar donations and Donald has been vacuuming up republican small donor money with his stop the steal con.

If the DOJ doesn't want to be involved in politics, too bad, these are political crimes and crimes against the USA. It's part of their job too, the one where they swear an oath to uphold and defend the constitution from all enemies, especially domestic ones. The State department and military deal with foreign threats, but it's the DOJ's duty to deal with domestic ones, by enforcing the law.
 
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