Rob Roy
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I don't think I would have an abortion. I don't think I can answer for other people, and realize it seems like I'm avoiding the question.
Where are my libertarians at
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CatHedral
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It really does.
jimihendrix1
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Wrong. The KKK was not formed by the Demoratic party. Sorry.
The Ku Klux Klan was founded in 1866 by ex-Confederate soldiers Frank McCord, Richard Reed, John Lester, John Kennedy, J. Calvin Jones and James Crowe in Pulaski, Tennessee.
The Kkk Was Founded By Democrats But Not The Party
The Anti-Defamation Leagues Center on Extremism senior fellow Mark Pitcavage told the Associated Press that many KKK members were Democrats because the Whig Party had died off and Southerners disliked Republicans after the Civil War. Despite KKK members’ primary political affiliation, Pitcavage said it is wrong to say the Democratic Party started the KKK.
Regional interests and the basic political identities of liberal and conservative didnt change as much as factions changed parties as party platforms changed along with America.
The modern split is expressed well by; the left-right paradigm Big Government Progressivism vs. Small Government Social Conservatism, where;socially conservative and pro-business conservative factions banded together against socially liberal and pro business liberal factions, to push back against an increasingly progressive Democratic Party and America .
This tension largely created the modern parties of our two-party system, resulting in two Big Tents;who disagree on the purposes of government;and social issues. This tension is then magnified by the;current influence of media and lobbyists, and can be understood by examining;what I call;the Sixth Party Strategy and by a tactic called Dog Whistle Politics).
The result is that today the Democratic Party is dominated by liberal Democrats and Progressives.
Meanwhile, most of those who would have been the old; socially conservative Democrats now have a R next to their name.
Its also easy to see who the White Supremicists of today support.... The rEthugliklan party.
tRump is also the one that said there are good Whit Supremicists. Theres no such thing as a good White Supremicist, sorry.
I challenge you to identify any of the modern Democrats that are marching with white supremicists, and who are actively participating in the White Supremicist Movement. AND SHOW ME PROOF. NOT JUST ACCUSATIONS.
White Supremacist/Nazi/Republican Group Marches at Lincoln Memorial In Washington DC [VIDEO]
Dec 4, 2021
About 100 members of the “White Nationalist” (see. White Supremacist, Nazi’s , and Republicans) group Patriot Front marched outside the Lincoln Memorial while chanting “reclaim America “while carrying flags, shields, and photographs show one banner reading “victory or death.”
Patriot Front leader Thomas Rousseau gave a speech near the Capitol reflecting pool while bystanders
Here Is a List of White Supremacist Extremist Organizations in America
All of these are affiliated with the rEpubliKLAN Party. None are involved with Democrats. As In ZERO.
I challenge you to find any Democrats actively involved with any of these assholes.
I Can show you modern rethugliKLANS who are affiliated with some of these organizations, and who have run for office under the rethugliKLAN banner.
American Renaissance, is a monthly racialist magazine published by the New Century Foundation.
American Freedom Party, formerly known as the American Third Position Party, is an American political party which promotes white supremacy.
American Nazi Party, is a neo-Nazi organization.
Aryan Brotherhood of Texas is one of the largest and most violent white supremacist prison gangs in the United States, responsible for murders and other violent crimes.
Aryan Nations, is a white supremacist neo-Nazi organization founded in the 1970s by Richard Girnt Butler as an arm of the Christian Identity group known as the Church of Jesus Christ-Christian. The Federal Bureau of Investigation has called Aryan Nations a “terrorist threat”, and the RAND Corporation has called it the “first truly nationwide terrorist network” in the US.
Council of Conservative Citizens, is an American political organization that supports a large variety of conservative and paleoconservative causes in addition to white separatism.
Creativity Movement, (formerly known as the World Church of the Creator) is a white supremacist politico organization that advocates the racialist religion, Creativity.
EURO, is a white separatist organization in the United States. Led by former Louisiana state representative and presidential primary candidate David Duke, it was founded in 2000.
Ku Klux Klan, often abbreviated KKK and informally known as The Klan.
National Alliance, is a white supremacist political organization.
National Association for the Advancement of White People, is a white supremacist organization in the United States incorporated on December 14, 1953 in Delaware by Bryant Bowles which presents itself as a civil rights organization such as the NAACP.
National Policy Institute, is a think tank based in Augusta, Georgia in the United States.
National Socialist Movement (United States), a party founded in 1974. Since 2005 the party has become very active, staging many marches and demonstrations.
National Vanguard, was an American National Socialist organization based in Charlottesville, Virginia, founded by Kevin Alfred Strom and former members of the National Alliance.
Nationalist Movement, is a Mississippi-based, white supremacist organization that advocates what it calls a “pro-majority” position.
Occidental Quarterly, is a printed far-right quarterly journal with a web segment, TOQ Online, including interviews, essays and reviews on the website.[
Phineas Priesthood, is a Christian Identity movement that opposes interracial intercourse, the mixing of races, homosexuality, and abortion.
Volksfront, describes itself as an international fraternal organization for persons of European descent.
White Aryan Resistance, is a neo-Nazi white supremacist organization founded and led by former Ku Klux Klan leader Tom Metzger.
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Fogdog
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It was you that started fantasizing in this therad about buggering children. All I said in response is how creepy you fascists are about the subject.
I can understand why a pedophile would get all triggered and such. Struck dog howls and all that.
Herb & Suds
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The Republican Party has fallen so far away from the Lincoln party
It is sad really , the way of the whigs
But it is the only way to cull the herd
Adios
It is sad really , the way of the whigs
But it is the only way to cull the herd
Adios
Fogdog
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They are going the way of the Communist Party.
That's what happens when a special interest group makes decisions based upon false beliefs.
Unclebaldrick
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We had very small government during the 18th century.
That went well.
That went well.
Budley Doright
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$4k US is like a million dollars hereon their way to Canada after they dumped their kid off with jail babysitter?
an let me tell you $4k was not nearly enough hell that's $1k Canadian
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Rob Roy
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Not everything is as it seems though. My answer is consistent with my belief and my answer is as complete as I can make it under my present awareness and belief.
No abortion for me. I don't know exactly when a a conceptus gains rights. I'd prefer other people did not have abortions, but my preferences do not confer a right on me to make other people follow my preferences. It's also why I'm "vaccine" choice for other people, while eschewing them for me.
Okay, your turn. What is your position on abortion and why?
Budley Doright
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Well yes we are still here and thriving, well some of us. Now let’s look at who is not thriving shall we. The black people didn’t actually thrive did they, oh well. The indigenous were not what would be called thriving but yes there was the small government to help them move to shitholes. You’ve been asked numerous times to provide examples of this working anywhere at any time. Surely in such a utopian world you talk about there would be working examples of small goverment full of freedoms for its people. Please name one of these freedom, love, peace, filled worlds that rely on the goodwill of all. I don’t doubt it would be a beautiful place and maybe there would be unicorns as pets (free to leave of course).
Budley Doright
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Ok ok, yes yes, jeesh, there were a few minor instances of Trump backed violence. But there were good people on both sides. Oh wait there was only one side. Never mind
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Rob Roy
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You are mischaracterizing "libertarianism" , possibly out of ignorance. Your example above is not a good example to describe libertarianism.
Name one place where using systemic offensive force as the primary means in a society (that's the basis of government) has ever brought about freedom, peace and love. You can't.
One example of libertarianism working is a free market. You have several sandwiches and wish to sell some, I like your sandwiches and wish to buy one. We agree to a mutual price and make the exchange. No third party tells us we must do business or we can't do business. I'm happy with the sandwich I bought. You're happy with the 5 bucks I gave you. That is an example of a libertarian interaction. You've made many of those libertarian type transactions yourself in your life.
Budley Doright
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So your referring to being so thin skinned that a post from an anonymous internet person would anger you enough that it would drive you to rage and say offensive things? Seems that doesn’t really fit into your utopian world of inclusion ……. I guess I’m just confused
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Rob Roy
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Were you unhappy with these Ron Paul ideas ? End the USA foreign empire ? End the racist drug war? Or expose the ponzi scheme of the Federal Reserve?
I agree that Rand is less than Ron regarding liberty etc.
Rob Roy
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Trump is not, never was a Libertarian. He's more of a democrat than a Libertarian. He wanted to "take guns first, due process second". He took big pharma money and pushed vaccines, just like Democrats. He even rode the Lolita express, just not as much as say Bill Clinton or maybe Bill Gates.Ok ok, yes yes, jeesh, there were a few minor instances of Trump backed violence. But there were good people on both sides. Oh wait there was only one side. Never mind
You seem confused. What is your definition of what Libertarianism is?
Rob Roy
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That's a grand accusation. Care to flesh it out?
Free trade is not what keeps people in poverty. Freedom of choice is not what keeps people in poverty. Are you saying foreign empire and big government deficit spending on things like military industrial complex are good things?
maxamus1
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Wtf r u talking about black people are just fine its the whites telling em that they are not is the issue. As far as the indians this big ol government that we have now is what's killing them of but sure let's go bigger to save them hell of an idea.
As far as examples of a small government that worked think of the USA in it beginning. A small centralized government for the people nothing like the shit show we have now.
How about you show an example of a big government working. One just one. Oh you can't cause all the ones that have a big government are socialist. And have huge problems but you're right bigger is always better.
hanimmal
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Cherry picking your own bullshit troll post is just more lazy trolling from you.
Nothing says good times like average lifespan half of what it is today.
One thing?
How about lakes on fire due to massive pollution from all those small government loving industries dumping their chemicals into them leading to the EPA?
