Insulated tent? Let’s take it below freezing!

GarageGardener69

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I might experiment with that MyHeat heater and an Inkbird.
I get to mid 60's lights out too. Plants seem to grow a little slower in the winter but never a bad harvest.
Nice. I bet a MyHeat will for you will be just enough to mimic those summer type temps all year round with not a lot of wattage used.

I too noticed a slow down in growth as it got colder out before I put the heater in. I’m 100% sure I had some other issues going like a lock out, maybe, and they where definitely hungry. I thought they where nearing end of run (based on a weekly count, ~12 weeks) but I thought maybe since they where making seeds they needed more food

that was the case. Leaves stopped discoloring and falling off and new growth on top is occurring.
 

GarageGardener69

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Damn that is cold. You must be up north.
I'm also a little concerned about running a cheap heater.
My temps usually only fall to 66-68F. The tents are in my music studio which is built into my garage. It gets cool down there (good for instruments) but rarely cold. I've survived without one this far, but it'd be nice to see if it would make a difference in growth and yield during the winter.
Yeah it got cold quick here for sure.
although this heater is affordable, I don’t see any cheapness to it, it is UL listed and some other kind of listing for safety. Has some kind shut off in an over heating situation. And seems pretty well made/sealed etc. I check my set up 2x a day; a good visual inspection , all the plugs, a timer. I pick the heater up too to make sure it’s not melting or some shit too lol. Paranoid, yes:D
 

GarageGardener69

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My one comment on that 'MyHeat' heater...it is small and low wattage...but in this kind of setting isn't super consistent. It's on and blowing hot air, or it's off and the room cools rapidly. While the oil filled 'radiator style units are a bit more even...because they retain heat in the oil and metal frames, they heat, then slowly release the heat built up in their bodies rather than just blowing hot vs. off.
I definitely agree with that. I was actually wondering if the constant temperature swings, if you will, from 72-78*F all day and night long will mess with the plants. I keep that gap of temperature so the unit has time to “cool down”… lol..cooling down the heater;-) what a concept

I do like the idea of the oil heater retaining some heat after it’s off too. I bet a much more gradual temp drop
 

GarageGardener69

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I grow in a shed during the winter. I do not have a tent but i framed a small 2 room veg / flower (on platform - off cement) with foam board. My temps range from -5 to 10C (23 to 50F) inside shed. The inkbird and honeywell 150/250w personal heater has been solid for 3 years. I do vent outside as my moisture was an issue. It was slowly creating mold as hot air vs cold shed is not good. My veg portion heat gets pulled into flower area before venting.
I was wondering if doing a shed build would be possible. I’d just be worried about neighbors seeing me go into a shed a few times a day for an extended period of time haha
Nice to hear they can run issue free for 3+ years I was debating buying a second one and switching them here and there since they’re not too much $
 

Nrk.cdn

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My flower temp range is always 75-82F (24-28C).

I am able to have two plants scrogged in a 3.5ftx5ft flower room. I use about 10amp on a 20amp GFI circuit. I average 14-16oz with 220w bridgelux gen2 strips.

The cold area (if not too humid) acts as a great slow drying area.
 

LeastExpectedGrower

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Probably depends upon if a power outage might last more than a few hours...Otherwise if you have short drops, it's less than ideal but wouldn't keel 'em dead. I'd want to know what the temp drop per hour is. Around here we seldom have a power outage that lasts more than an hour or two, but it's not uncommon to have short brown and black outs (anywhere from moments to an hour).
 

GarageGardener69

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My flower temp range is always 75-82F (24-28C).

I am able to have two plants scrogged in a 3.5ftx5ft flower room. I use about 10amp on a 20amp GFI circuit. I average 14-16oz with 220w bridgelux gen2 strips.

The cold area (if not too humid) acts as a great slow drying area.
Oh that’s nice man! Nice returns!
 

GarageGardener69

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Probably depends upon if a power outage might last more than a few hours...Otherwise if you have short drops, it's less than ideal but wouldn't keel 'em dead. I'd want to know what the temp drop per hour is. Around here we seldom have a power outage that lasts more than an hour or two, but it's not uncommon to have short brown and black outs (anywhere from moments to an hour).
my area rarely has power outages too. I’ve yet to come home to a blinking clock on microwave or stove.
To be honest. I’d say it’s more of a temp drop per minutes. I’m thinking. Roughly cycles itself every 20-25 minutes. So it’ll go from 78-72 twice an hour
 

LeastExpectedGrower

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my area rarely has power outages too. I’ve yet to come home to a blinking clock on microwave or stove.
To be honest. I’d say it’s more of a temp drop per minutes. I’m thinking. Roughly cycles itself every 20-25 minutes. So it’ll go from 78-72 twice an hour
If there's a threat of it happening rarely, you just don't want to freeze your plants. ;) Remember that some guys outdoors are going down into the frost zone. ;)
 

GarageGardener69

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Another little draw back in this situation is when I take the foam door off and unzip tent. Cold air rushes in. Kicks the heat on within a few mins depending on garage temps
 

Rob Roy

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Power outage?
Generator and small propane heater as backup. 12 volt deep cell battery (good trolling motor battery) and a couple of low draw led bulbs can save the day in a power outage. If you're in flower you can keep the same 12 /12 going so the girls don't freak out. They might not like the drop in light intensity, but it should hold them until the power comes back.

When the power comes back on, good idea to check / adjust electrical timers to make sure they're on the right schedule.
 

GarageGardener69

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Power outage?
Generator and small propane heater as backup. 12 volt deep cell battery (good trolling motor battery) and a couple of low draw led bulbs can save the day in a power outage. If you're in flower you can keep the same 12 /12 going so the girls don't freak out. They might not like the drop in light intensity, but it should hold them until the power comes back.

When the power comes back on, good idea to check / adjust electrical timers to make sure they're on the right schedule.
I do have hopes of a natural gas whole house generator some day And lucky for me a power outage would only really mess me up during 1/3 of the year I let it get hot hot in the summer. Hit highs of I think 94-98. Highest temps at the top of tent. But also with a humidifier running to keep some kinda VPD
 

Nrk.cdn

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If you want to track the temp/humidity, inkbirk has a small logger. I think it about $20us. Good graphs. I bought one.
I attached a pic of last winter grow, malawi.
Weather was cold, 14F (-10c).

My recent grow is 2 weeks from harvest. I left it for 8 days with autowatering without issues.

I figure its a shed, if it burns down i live to see another day.

Happy growing
 

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GarageGardener69

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If you want to track the temp/humidity, inkbirk has a small logger. I think it about $20us. Good graphs. I bought one.
I attached a pic of last winter grow, malawi.
Weather was cold, 14F (-10c).

My recent grow is 2 weeks from harvest. I left it for 8 days with autowatering without issues.

I figure its a shed, if it burns down i live to see another day.

Happy growing
That’s awesome haha nice man. I’ll look into it
 

ComfortCreator

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My grow room is not in a garage but in a underground concrete bunker in northern Alberta that we can't allow to freeze but in the almost 20 years I've owned the house have never had to apply heat tho it has got down to just a couple degrees C above freezing. Even this last summer with the heat domes it never got above 65F down there either so have never needed A/C either.

Couple things you should have is a temp/rh controller for your exhaust fan so it only runs when needed to reduce the heat or rh and a heater with a thermostat to make it come on when it drops below your set temp. I bought a 120/240v baseboard thermostat and wired it into a metal electrical box like the kind you would use for a light switch with cords on each end so I plug the heater into that with it's control on high and let the thermostat turn it on and off as needed. The climate is controlled in a very narrow range whether the lights are on or off. Also wired up a speed controller like the thermostat so the fan runs at 60W instead of the full 120W at full blast. Air is pulled into the room through filters from the rest of the basement and not directly from outside as it gets to -35C and up to +35C out there.

To keep tent walls from getting sucked in some cross bracing with string, rope or strong fishing line to prevent them bulging inwards will do the trick. Heavy blankets, comforters or sleeping bags from a thrift store will do the job pretty cheap too.

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Have you ever had any reason to be concerned that you didnt have enough airflow when trying to control low temps? Just curious if CO2 level has ever been an issue when venting very little?
 

GarageGardener69

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Have you ever had any reason to be concerned that you didnt have enough airflow when trying to control low temps? Just curious if CO2 level has ever been an issue when venting very little?
I do have a 4” insulated duct that’s “supplying” the tent with conditioned air from the house and the exhaust fan is just blowing into the garage, pulling air from the tent thus pulling air from the conditioned space.
I think that’s enough air flow/exchange as there’s always a little draw of fresh air coming in from whatever the exhaust fan is pulling out

haven’t looked into CO2 much
 

OldMedUser

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Have you ever had any reason to be concerned that you didnt have enough airflow when trying to control low temps? Just curious if CO2 level has ever been an issue when venting very little?
When I have a lot of greenery going I'll burn a little alcohol lamp to add CO2 when it's too cool and dry to trigger my exhaust fan very often or at all in the winter. I have a CO2 controller that I used to see how much CO2 I got from it and was over 1500ppm in 20 min with version 1.0 so made a smaller one and it keeps it over 1250 to 1500 easy enough tho takes a bit longer to get there. A single candle can keep the levels up over 1000 so not a lot is needed. A 4L jug of 99% methyl hydrate is only $10 and is good for a whole flowering cycle if used daily and burns around 100ml/day.

Ver. 1.0 with 3/8" tubing and tiki torch wicks. Ver. 2.0 uses a single 3/8" tube and tiki torch wick. Kept in a stone crock while burning for safety.

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Ver. 3.0 uses a single 3/16" tube and a cotton shoe lace for a wick and seems just right. Much better mileage with this one. :)

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