I just wanted to bring more attention to this, it's the way to go if you can!
Bridgelux Vesta super tuneable strip build
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I was aroused when I saw them.
Do the wires release easily, better than strip connectors?
Very nice build build, clean AND affordable.
ilovereggae
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much easier. they must have a little spring mechanism in them vs how the ones on strips are just opening a clasp or something when u press to remove them.I was aroused when I saw them.
Do the wires release easily, better than strip connectors?
Very nice build build, clean AND affordable.
Rocket Soul
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I've even done builds with 4 in series, with xlg150m. This will also allow you to throw 24V kingbrite red strips or any 24V you like in the same circuit.
I built this one for a friend like that; 3 vestas and 1 strip with 630/660 mix in 2 parallel strings, with one 4 Vesta circuit for the perifery. Favorite light I built, spectrum control separate dimming for the centre and perifery and added reds on the same circuit.
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Rocket Soul
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I don't know which best is my fave anymore, I like them all, maybe except for the 2700k/6500k version. I'd love a 4000k/2700k version, easier to bring both channels in flower but still enough blue to do a good vegg. Thrive is very nice but I don't know if I'd rather add that extra blue thru monos. With covid UV diodes have become much cheaper and viable. Been looking long and hard at making some strips but I can't seem to keep my money in the bank for long enough, new flat got me zeroed out again. But I might be able to squeeze a small tent in here. But likely I'd do shrooms for starting out.
grotbags
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lovely neat little build @ilovereggae, cable management is on point!...
MidnightSun72
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Did you wire the king brite strips in series with some of the whites strips?. And if you wired them seperate as their own 48v series would you worry about thermal run away? Is it better to alternate with a Sammy strip?
because the Samsung strips could be like 22.5 and the king brute are 24v?
grotbags
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thats why i like cutters "posh" version of the thrive, 5000k nichia optisolis on one channel and 2000k nichia on the other, i think you get a lot more flexable/useable spectrum, downside being they are quite expensive and the efficiancy isnt great... but look at that spectrum...
the below example is a 3 channel version of the above strip with added 660 on the third/center channel...
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | |
| | | | | | | | | |
CH1 5K | 100% | 0% | 100% | 100% | 100% | 100% | 50% | 100% | 0% |
CH2 2K | 0% | 100% | 100% | 50% | 25% | 10% | 100% | 100% | 0% |
CH3 660 | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 100% | 100% |
| | | | | | | | | |
CRI | 98 | 77 | 90 | 94 | 96 | 98 | 86 | 83 | - |
CCT | 5200K | 2068K | 2758K | 3315K | 4019K | 4668K | 2434K | 1918K | - |
ilovereggae
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got it up and running.
2 White Runtz clones from Darkheart about 10 days into flower.
2 White Runtz clones from Darkheart about 10 days into flower.
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grotbags
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this is what i have been thinking for my next project, custom 3 channel FAT strip, 75mm x 580mm. not a side by side multi channel strip like the vestas or the boundary riders, i want all the diodes mixed in together for better spectrum blending but still multi channel.
i like you think you could have a mainly white diode 2700k 90cri spectrum on channel 1 for bulk flowering - probs about 85% total diode count, then on channel 2 a blue mono mix or maybe something like tekniks pc blue + blue mono mix for running harder at start of flower or pre flower/veg - probs about 10 to 15% total diode count, then far red on channel 3 - probs about 1 to 2% total diode count.
i think that would give you a really versitile do it all 3 channel light that gives you control of what really matters...
and i thought if i was going that far i would like to design a push fit pcb for connecting the strips together, no more ridiculous amounts of wiring, wago's ect...
Rocket Soul
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I was thinking about supplementary strips with monos, with a little work you can do those at home, just need some basic equipment and the pcbs. Having to deal with white diodes basicly means that you have to use a pick and place which is beyond my possibilities. But yeah, wide uv and blue and far red would be what I'm after.this is what i have been thinking for my next project, custom 3 channel FAT strip, 75mm x 580mm. not a side by side multi channel strip like the vestas or the boundary riders, i want all the diodes mixed in together for better spectrum blending but still multi channel.
i like you think you could have a mainly white diode 2700k 90cri spectrum on channel 1 for bulk flowering - probs about 85% total diode count, then on channel 2 a blue mono mix or maybe something like tekniks pc blue + blue mono mix for running harder at start of flower or pre flower/veg - probs about 10 to 15% total diode count, then far red on channel 3 - probs about 1 to 2% total diode count.
i think that would give you a really versitile do it all 3 channel light that gives you control of what really matters...
and i thought if i was going that far i would like to design a push fit pcb for connecting the strips together, no more ridiculous amounts of wiring, wago's ect...
grotbags
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yer i was more thinking of getting the pcb's made from someone like pcb way then asking someone like cutter to supply the diodes and populate them for me.
i think peter r1 over on ledgardener bought some old cheap samsung strips just for the pcb's and swapped out the diodes, not sure if he used a hotplate/converted clothes iron or hot air rework gun for the soldering of the diodes, but thats defo a possability for home diy...
Rocket Soul
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My idea was to try to score some together with my next Ali buy. I don't know how well Sammie pcbs work since the diode have different dimensions to the 3535 diodes.
grotbags
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yer you would have to check the data sheet for the contact patch/solder points on the diodes and compare to the pcb footprint, but their can be a bit of leyway ie i know a 3030 nichia package will fit and work on a 2835 cree footprint pcb...
SBBCal
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Here's one I've been playing with.
- T bar on the back so all the supplemental Cree colors can be swapped/slid ect with a twist.
- L09 strips from arrows last sale. Lm301a-if I'm not mistaken. 3.5k- 48v/1380mA.
-Cree xp-G3's- far red, photo red , infrared. Got some green as well but need some more research. Just waiting on the 660s being used on a run and then I can finish . Drivers prob won't be mounted on the frame... late veg/flower light. I've made a 4-5k with royals for seedling/veg.
- T bar on the back so all the supplemental Cree colors can be swapped/slid ect with a twist.
- L09 strips from arrows last sale. Lm301a-if I'm not mistaken. 3.5k- 48v/1380mA.
-Cree xp-G3's- far red, photo red , infrared. Got some green as well but need some more research. Just waiting on the 660s being used on a run and then I can finish . Drivers prob won't be mounted on the frame... late veg/flower light. I've made a 4-5k with royals for seedling/veg.
grotbags
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i love the little adjustable mono diode placement brackets you made so you can get them monos where you need em...nice!Here's one I've been playing with.
- T bar on the back so all the supplemental Cree colors can be swapped/slid ect with a twist.
- L09 strips from arrows last sale. Lm301a-if I'm not mistaken. 3.5k- 48v/1380mA.
-Cree xp-G3's- far red, photo red , infrared. Got some green as well but need some more research. Just waiting on the 660s being used on a run and then I can finish . Drivers prob won't be mounted on the frame... late veg/flower light. I've made a 4-5k with royals for seedling/veg.
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MidnightSun72
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Man you guys are really upping the anti on each build. Gonna have to step up myself.
SBBCal
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Thx! Those little component heatsinks were 5cents each!
I like how they're all a little different, mines def more sloppy, need to get endcaps or something for wiring
ilovereggae
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I've got another design I'm working on for standard 24mm wide strips too. Got a bunch of L04s I need to use up.this is what i have been thinking for my next project, custom 3 channel FAT strip, 75mm x 580mm. not a side by side multi channel strip like the vestas or the boundary riders, i want all the diodes mixed in together for better spectrum blending but still multi channel.
i like you think you could have a mainly white diode 2700k 90cri spectrum on channel 1 for bulk flowering - probs about 85% total diode count, then on channel 2 a blue mono mix or maybe something like tekniks pc blue + blue mono mix for running harder at start of flower or pre flower/veg - probs about 10 to 15% total diode count, then far red on channel 3 - probs about 1 to 2% total diode count.
i think that would give you a really versitile do it all 3 channel light that gives you control of what really matters...
and i thought if i was going that far i would like to design a push fit pcb for connecting the strips together, no more ridiculous amounts of wiring, wago's ect...
but also thinking about the single row Vestas now, since they fit that same foot print. this would also be a little closer to @grotbags point, of the spectrum being blended better by alternating diodes instead of side by side strips. have to do math as to overall cost price wise.
the sinking and profiles for 24mm wide strips is way more standard, so a lot cheaper, and can probably find clear lenses if you wanted to make a waterproof fixture.