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DIY-HP-LED

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8 weeks feels like a long time but just in time for summer. I can start planning camping trips again. In-person schooling can start this summer too. I can go back to working full time. If feels like a weight has been lifted.
When you're younger the time goes much slower than when you you're older, to your kids it seemed like forever, the days get shorter as the years go by.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Flu is highly transmissible via surface contact and covid much less so, so washing hands and hygiene measures along with masks stopped it cold. This also proves that covid is way more transmissible with airborne spread than flu. We never wasted our time with hand washing and sanitizing for covid, we saved thousands of lives by preventing a flu season.
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The Flu Vanished During the Pandemic. What Will Its Return Look Like? - The New York Times (nytimes.com)
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There have been fewer influenza cases in the United States this flu season than in any on record. About 2,000 cases have been recorded since late September, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. In recent years, the average number of cases over the same period was about 206,000.

As measures to stop the spread of the coronavirus were implemented around the country in March 2020, influenza quickly disappeared, and it still has not returned. The latest flu season, which normally would have run until next month, essentially never happened.

After fears that a “twindemic” could batter the country, the absence of the flu was a much needed reprieve that eased the burden on an overwhelmed health care system. But the lack of exposure to the flu could also make the population more susceptible to the virus when it returns — and experts say its return is certain.

“We do not know when it will come back in the United States, but we know it will come back,” said Sonja Olsen, an epidemiologist at the C.D.C.

Experts are less certain about what will happen when the flu does return. In the coming months — as millions of people return to public transit, restaurants, schools and offices — influenza outbreaks could be more widespread than normal, they say, or could occur at unusual times of the year. But it’s also possible that the virus that returns is less dangerous, having not had the opportunity to evolve while it was on hiatus.

“We don’t really have a clue,” said Richard Webby, a virologist at the St. Jude Children’s Research Hospital in Memphis. “We’re in uncharted territory. We haven’t had an influenza season this low, I think as long as we’ve been measuring it. So what the potential implications are is a bit unclear.”

Scientists do not yet know which public health measures were most effective in eradicating the flu this season, but if behaviors like mask-wearing and frequent hand-washing continue after the coronavirus pandemic is over, they could help to keep influenza at bay in the United States.

Much also depends on the latest flu vaccines, their effectiveness and the public’s willingness to get them. The recent drop in cases, however, has made it difficult for scientists to decide which flu strains to protect against in those vaccines. It’s harder to predict which strains will be circulating later, they say, when so few are circulating now.

What happened to the flu?
When the reality of the coronavirus pandemic set in last year, the country was still in the throes of the normal flu season, which had peaked in February. Then schools closed, travel halted and millions began working from home, and the number of new flu cases quickly dropped to historic lows, even as the coronavirus surged.


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And the decline has not been because of a lack of testing. Since late September, 1.3 million specimens have been tested for influenza, more than the average of about one million in the same period in recent years.

The public’s history of exposure to influenza, scientists say, may partially explain why the flu virtually disappeared while the coronavirus continued to spread after safety measures were implemented.

“For something like Covid, where you have a fully susceptible population at the start of a pandemic, it takes a lot more work to slow the spread of the infection,” said Rachel Baker, an epidemiologist at Princeton University.

In other words — unlike with the coronavirus — the population has some natural immunity to the flu, from years of being exposed to various strains of the virus. People are susceptible to new strains of the flu each year, but less so than they are to wholly unfamiliar viruses.

The mere presence of the coronavirus may have also played a role in suppressing flu cases, said Dr. Webby, because there is often just one dominant respiratory virus in a population at a given time. “One tends to keep the other out,” he said.

And influenza was not the only virus that disappeared over the last year; there were also substantial drops in other respiratory illnesses, including the respiratory syncytial virus, or R.S.V., which is the most common cause of pneumonia in infants.
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CunningCanuk

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A COVID triple-mutant found in India could be much more deadly

A new threat has emerged in India's fight against COVID — a triple mutant variant of the virus. The mutant strain was found in samples in Bengal, and may have evolved from preexisting double mutations. Researchers in India say this new threat could potentially affect vaccine efficacy, but more studies need to be done. See more stories on Insider's business page.

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DIY-HP-LED

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A COVID triple-mutant found in India could be much more deadly

A new threat has emerged in India's fight against COVID — a triple mutant variant of the virus. The mutant strain was found in samples in Bengal, and may have evolved from preexisting double mutations. Researchers in India say this new threat could potentially affect vaccine efficacy, but more studies need to be done. See more stories on Insider's business page.

Read in Business Insider: https://apple.news/AbW3g3dqxTleA_bC9gy2RNg
Great, just what we need a triple threat, if this shit keeps up and starts killing kids en mass and turns more lethal, there will be mandatory vaccinations in many places with sore arms and asses. Kids are already being sickened by the UK variant, which infects kids, is more contagious, but no more virulent than the original strain. However there is a Brazilian variant that is killing large numbers of kids and younger adults that is well established in North America.

There is a new imperative to get the recalcitrant adult pussies vaccinated, the protection of children and reopening schools in the fall, with these new variants, schools and unvaccinated elementary school children along with infants and preschoolers are vulnerable. Also, we might all be vulnerable to new mutations, but the mutagenic potential of this virus is low and somewhat limited according to the experts. With new strains many vaccinated people could be asymptomatic and kids could be sick or dead.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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The global covid situation as of yesterday and the effectiveness of vaccines.
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COVID-19 hospitalizations among older Americans plunge more than 70 percent

The United States entered this year at the peak of one of the worst waves of the ongoing coronavirus pandemic, which has killed 567,352 Americans. Since then, however, COVID-19 hospitalizations have dropped by 70 percent among older Americans, who are one of the most vulnerable populations, and deaths have fallen by half, according to recent reports.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reports that two-thirds of adults older than 65 have been fully vaccinated, and nearly 81 percent have received at least one dose of a vaccine. Some older Americans with underlying conditions may be unable to receive a vaccine, but the population is nearing a point of herd immunity — at least amongst themselves.
 

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Ron Johnson questions 'big push' to vaccinate 'everybody'
Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) in a Thursday podcast interview cast doubt on the importance of vaccinating the nation for COVID-19, saying he’s getting “highly suspicious” of the “big push to make sure everybody gets the vaccine.”

“The science tells us that vaccines are 95 percent effective, so if you have a vaccine, quite honestly, what do you care if your neighbor has one or not?” Johnson said during an appearance on “The Vicki McKenna Show.” He also asked “what’s the point” of striving to get “everybody” the COVID-19 shot.

“Why is this big push to make sure everybody gets a vaccine, and it's to the point where you better impose it, you’re gonna shame people, you’re gonna force them to carry a card to prove that they’ve been vaccinated so they can just be in society,” he added.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Ron Johnson questions 'big push' to vaccinate 'everybody'
Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) in a Thursday podcast interview cast doubt on the importance of vaccinating the nation for COVID-19, saying he’s getting “highly suspicious” of the “big push to make sure everybody gets the vaccine.”

“The science tells us that vaccines are 95 percent effective, so if you have a vaccine, quite honestly, what do you care if your neighbor has one or not?” Johnson said during an appearance on “The Vicki McKenna Show.” He also asked “what’s the point” of striving to get “everybody” the COVID-19 shot.

“Why is this big push to make sure everybody gets a vaccine, and it's to the point where you better impose it, you’re gonna shame people, you’re gonna force them to carry a card to prove that they’ve been vaccinated so they can just be in society,” he added.
When unvaccinated kids die, this will be one of the cocksuckers helping to kill them, he regularly spreads Russian disinformation and has been warned about it, so he knows he's a fucking traitor. The republican party is full of scumbags, and psychos, it has become a prerequisite.
 

Fogdog

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When you're younger the time goes much slower than when you you're older, to your kids it seemed like forever, the days get shorter as the years go by.
The lockdown sucked for everybody. My oldest's senior year in HS went poof. At least he made it through the year with grades good enough to graduate and move on to college. My youngest is probably going to be OK, we'll know in a couple of years. He's going to need summer school in order to catch up. Online learning sucks as far as they are concerned. I took time off from work just so that I could keep them even remotely on track.

Last year dragged on and on.

But we made it. Everybody healthy. Both mothers still with us. It got tense when the rona made it to her assisted living facility but they did a good job at isolating and locking the facility down and contained the spread. By mid-June, every close family member will be fully vaccinated. I don't know if my redneck brother will be but he lives in another state.

Of course, the troglodytes can still eff this up for the sentients in this society by breeding and spreading some new variant. And why would I expect them to behave this year when they were so intent on spreading the wild virus last year? They killed 500,000 people in the US and call it liberty.
 

CunningCanuk

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The lockdown sucked for everybody. My oldest's senior year in HS went poof. At least he made it through the year with grades good enough to graduate and move on to college. My youngest is probably going to be OK, we'll know in a couple of years. He's going to need summer school in order to catch up. Online learning sucks as far as they are concerned. I took time off from work just so that I could keep them even remotely on track.

Last year dragged on and on.
My wife and I were just talking about the changes in our daughter’s scholastic effort last night. She has done remarkable well with the online classes (Grade 7). She is really quite gifted (but a bit lazy) and this experience made her a better student. She felt like she wasn’t the smartest kid in her class anymore so she buckled down and became more committed to getting her work done.

She’s made new friends that push her more and we hope she will keep in touch with them. Silver linings.

It sucks about your son graduating through this though. I feel bad for kids that are missing out on that right of passage.
 

Dr.Amber Trichome

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COVID-19 hospitalizations among older Americans plunge more than 70 percent

The United States entered this year at the peak of one of the worst waves of the ongoing coronavirus pandemic, which has killed 567,352 Americans. Since then, however, COVID-19 hospitalizations have dropped by 70 percent among older Americans, who are one of the most vulnerable populations, and deaths have fallen by half, according to recent reports.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reports that two-thirds of adults older than 65 have been fully vaccinated, and nearly 81 percent have received at least one dose of a vaccine. Some older Americans with underlying conditions may be unable to receive a vaccine, but the population is nearing a point of herd immunity — at least amongst themselves.
The old folks are so compliant! It’s the younger ones that have issues. I hear it from my older patients all the time that
The lockdown sucked for everybody. My oldest's senior year in HS went poof. At least he made it through the year with grades good enough to graduate and move on to college. My youngest is probably going to be OK, we'll know in a couple of years. He's going to need summer school in order to catch up. Online learning sucks as far as they are concerned. I took time off from work just so that I could keep them even remotely on track.

Last year dragged on and on.

But we made it. Everybody healthy. Both mothers still with us. It got tense when the rona made it to her assisted living facility but they did a good job at isolating and locking the facility down and contained the spread. By mid-June, every close family member will be fully vaccinated. I don't know if my redneck brother will be but he lives in another state.

Of course, the troglodytes can still eff this up for the sentients in this society by breeding and spreading some new variant. And why would I expect them to behave this year when they were so intent on spreading the wild virus last year? They killed 500,000 people in the US and call it liberty.
They will breed monster Covid babys that hard working taxpayers
Will have to take care of. Assholes!
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HGCC

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Today the wife and I were walking into a store when we realized we had forgot our masks in the car. We've both had both our shots, so we decided to go on in without them. As we were waiting in the checkout I was looking around at the other folks in line. About half had on mask. I whispered to the wife, "these people are going to mistake up for Republicans."
Lol I worry about that as well. I want a "fuck off, I let Bill gate shoot nano semen in me. It's fine." shirt.

It's really weird having restaurants and such back to full capacity. Hit a hibachi place tonight and it was just weird being around that many people, crowds never bothered me but I guess it's just been a long time.

Edit: restaurant week is kicking off here in Denver, places all over the city and burbs are doing various specials. Hope to get out at least once or twice more as I am a firm believer in local independent eateries and it has been rough on them.
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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South African variant may 'break through' Pfizer vaccine protection, but vaccine highly effective, Israeli study says | Reuters
South African variant may 'break through' Pfizer vaccine protection, but vaccine highly effective, Israeli study says

The coronavirus variant discovered in South Africa can break through the protection provided by Pfizer Inc and BioNTech's COVID-19 vaccine to some extent, a real-world data study in Israel found. However, the variant's prevalence in Israel is very low and the vaccine remains highly effective.

The study was released on the medRxiv pre-print site on April 9 and has not been peer reviewed. It compared almost 400 people who had tested positive for COVID-19, after they received one or two doses of the vaccine, against the same number of unvaccinated patients with the disease.

It matched age and gender, among other characteristics.

The South African variant, B.1.351, was found to make up about 1% of all the COVID-19 cases across all the people studied, according to the study by Tel Aviv University and Israel's largest healthcare provider, Clalit.

But among patients who had received two doses of the vaccine, the variant's prevalence rate was eight times higher than those unvaccinated - 5.4% versus 0.7%.

This suggests the vaccine is less effective against the South African variant, compared with the original coronavirus and a variant first identified in Britain that has come to comprise nearly all COVID-19 cases in Israel, the researchers said.

The researchers said the study was not intended to assess overall vaccine effectiveness against any variant, since it only looked at people who had already tested positive for COVID-19, not at overall infection rates.

Separate real-world Israeli studies on the vaccine's overall effectiveness, including by Clalit, have shown the Pfizer shot to be more than 90% effective. L1N2KU3L6

"We found a disproportionately higher rate of the South African variant among people vaccinated with a second dose, compared to the unvaccinated group. This means that the South African variant is able, to some extent, to break through the vaccine's protection," said Tel Aviv University's Adi Stern.

In an update to the study posted on April 16, the researchers noted that within the group of people who received two doses, which comprised eight people, all of the B.1.351 infections occurred within a week to 13 days after the second shot. None of them tested positive for it 14 days or more after the second dose.
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