smokinrav
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I definitely need to check dates better when I Google.
"Biden White House Sandbags Staffers, Sidelines Dozens for Pot Use"
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smokinrav
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I'd go with Merrick Garland :shrug:
Fogdog
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"There is no right party, only parties that are less shitty than others. "
The meaning is the same. Both sides are bad. It's a stale and false comparison after all that has happened in the last decade.
It is propaganda and was used by the so-called Progressives to promote Bernie, when he was trying to force his way into leadership of the Democratic party. The same BS equivalence was used to suppress votes by not only Republicans but by foreign dictators like Putin.
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You're ignoring any degree of nuance. If I say that Tonya Harding and Hitler are not good people and that one is shittier than the other, you'd have to manufacture the equivalence yourself, because there is no equivalence being presented. It's not propaganda, it's that your sensitivity is causing a misinterpretation, imo.
Dr.Amber Trichome
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I got all
I got many jobs with fake piss. Quick fix plus . Don’t overheat it and pour the entire bottle into the cup. Don’t listen to when they say fill to the line. Dump the entire bottle. Put it down your crotch.
Fogdog
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But who would ever say "Tonya Harding and Hitler are not good people"? It's ridiculous. Just as ridiculous as saying that people who believe Democrats eat babies and support the violent overthrowing of our election are just as bad as Democrats.
Here you claim "both sides are bad" is not equating the two sides? That too is ridiculous.
Why is it necessary to mention Republicans at all when talking about something you don't like that Democrats did? I can see why a down on his luck Republican -- or Bernie Baby -- might want to. They both crapped the bed during last year's election and see great value in dragging down the people who won. I think that is the whole purpose of bringing that dumbass comparison up. It's a propaganda play.
OldMedUser
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Our Canadian map would be solid dark green from coast to coast to coast. We even have 3 coasts!
Only 2 provinces won't allow the federally mandated 4 plants per household legal recreational grows but can't stop medical growers. Various rules about growing outdoors tho.
I 've never *only* said both sides are bad, you're just ignoring the other half of the comment and are being way too sensitive because Trump'ers have you all messed up and your eyes roll back and you stop reading/comprehending.
Us Americans aren't as awesome as we think we are, but there's an important distinction to be made, don't you think? Apparently not, because that distinction is what I've been saying and you don't like it. So do you prefer that there is no distinction? Wouldn't that mean that we're all the same? Uhhh ohhhhh....I thought you took issue with saying that everyone is the same, so why would you do that??
Fogdog
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To say "both sides bad" is naive and completely misses how much has changed since that phrase was coined. There is no comparison to be made between Democrats and Republicans. Maybe once, a long time ago, but not any more.
We've had a lot of water go under that bridge. It's been used and used again by right and left wing propagandists. Propaganda is an effective tool to affect public perception, and I submit that you are a prime example of how effective it is.
This from Wikipedia:
Counterpropaganda - Wikipedia
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The fifth element of counterpropaganda, Employed rapidly:
Counterpropaganda is a reactive method that must be employed rapidly to effectively contradict a propaganda message. Oliver Carlson explains that the longer propaganda is perceived as the truth the harder it is to contradict even when the target audience is exposed to an opposing true message.[8] A propaganda message that is not contradicted immediately upon its discovery is likely to become the basis the target audience's actions and beliefs.
When I see propaganda like yours, I'll comment directly, clearly and eff people who don't like it. After all, they swallowed lies that most likely came from right wing propagandists but I've seen people on the left do the same.
Sure, but you're talking to yourself. You're literally saying something and then complaining about it, because I'm not the guy that just says "both sides are bad". Might take your own advice there on the propaganda, because you're creating fake quotes and attributing them to me. That's propaganda.
Fogdog
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"There is no right party, only parties that are less shitty than others. "
You are the one who said it, not me. Both sides are bad. It's bullshit and propaganda.
It is naive to equate Democrats with Republicans. At this time, they are not alike at all. That is factually correct.
So, now you double down by falsely claiming "with creating fake quotes and attributing them to me. That's propaganda." What you are doing is using the "but you do it too" (tu quoque) logical fallacy. BS. I'm directly addressing the nonsense you posted.
Wait, so if some parties aren't shittier than others, does that mean you're saying they're the same...while simultaneously complaining that people shouldn't say they're the same?
See, this is why I didn't want to do this with you, because you're so blindly fervently sensitive on this that you're willing to eat your own and create friction between people that shouldn't have any. Now here I am simply thinking you're an idiot that can't see past your own nose, and for what? We both hate Trump, but what the fuck good was all this just because you're being a crybaby little princess when someone doesn't instantly suckoff your blue gods. This is fucking stupid. This is exactly the problem with forcing everyone into one corner or another, the exact opposite of what liberalism is about. Well done, asshole, now you look just like a Trump'er to me when it comes to intellectual capacity. Exactly what I didn't want. Put me on your fucking block list.
You're literally the only person I've ever put on an ignore list in over thirty thousand posts across various forums over the years and we're mostly aligned, but you want to argue over a false comparison that you've created. That's DAF.
See, this is why I didn't want to do this with you, because you're so blindly fervently sensitive on this that you're willing to eat your own and create friction between people that shouldn't have any. Now here I am simply thinking you're an idiot that can't see past your own nose, and for what? We both hate Trump, but what the fuck good was all this just because you're being a crybaby little princess when someone doesn't instantly suckoff your blue gods. This is fucking stupid. This is exactly the problem with forcing everyone into one corner or another, the exact opposite of what liberalism is about. Well done, asshole, now you look just like a Trump'er to me when it comes to intellectual capacity. Exactly what I didn't want. Put me on your fucking block list.
You're literally the only person I've ever put on an ignore list in over thirty thousand posts across various forums over the years and we're mostly aligned, but you want to argue over a false comparison that you've created. That's DAF.
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Fogdog
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You are confused.
hanimmal
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The 'both sides trolling' really has lost something.
Fogdog
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I'm not saying @mooray was trolling. Not at first. I was saying he's reciting propaganda using something like the "all politicians are corrupt" trope. By responding against his assertion, I'm engaging in counterpropaganda. Everything I said was factually correct and verifiable. Now, he's effing trying gaslight me, which puts him in a lower bracket along with the trolls.
blu3bird
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He's a CUCKLORD !!
I have to take randoms x 2
1- FMSCA no big deal it's just a piss test and I could use fake piss for that
2 - my company does hair follicle test lol. There's no getting around that one
I've been kicking around the idea of ordering a spore syringe or two and firing up the pressure cooker and doing a batch rye berries to put together a mushroom grow if I can ever get enough free time to throw a tub together. There isn't any drug tests for mushrooms.
Probably be a wild adventure tripping the fuck out at some random truck stop when I go out for a relay and I'm shut down 10-12 hours. I could have fun chilling in my truck cleaning inside, talking mad shit on the CB, organizing tools in my side boxes and getting my dog out and wandering around
BurtMaklin
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TacoMac
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In the end, the major problem with marijuana is the legal liability that goes with it. If someone has an accident that results in injury, and come to find out that person has marijuana in their system, then it's all over for that company that individual works for.
Real or imagined, marijuana will be blamed. That's why companies and especially the government still frown seriously upon it.
Can you imagine if somebody left a classified document somewhere and then they tested positive for MJ? The news would run that story for years. They would blame the person for being a "dope head" and the government for being incompetent for ever hiring such a person.
It wouldn't matter if that person had smoked one joint the day before and that it had nothing to do with what happened.
That's simply the way it is, and until that perception changes and insurance laws are rewritten accordingly, it will never, ever change.
Real or imagined, marijuana will be blamed. That's why companies and especially the government still frown seriously upon it.
Can you imagine if somebody left a classified document somewhere and then they tested positive for MJ? The news would run that story for years. They would blame the person for being a "dope head" and the government for being incompetent for ever hiring such a person.
It wouldn't matter if that person had smoked one joint the day before and that it had nothing to do with what happened.
That's simply the way it is, and until that perception changes and insurance laws are rewritten accordingly, it will never, ever change.
CunningCanuk
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Nobody said Democrats should be free from criticism but to state they are the same as Republicans is bullshit.
Democrats aren’t trying to suppress votes. Democrats haven’t supported an insurrection and Democrats aren’t supported by conspiracy nuts and terrorists.
BurtMaklin
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Lol, never said they were the same. On the other hand, I can't help but see the irony of Democrats denying science in favor of antiquated stereotypes surrounding cannabis and using some misguided moral superiority to actively discriminate against those who use it. Using an amnesty clause for prior drug use in a security check, then persecuting those who chose to be honest is just dirty pool. Sounds Republican, but I digress, they are not carbon copies of one another, but both use moral indignation as a crutch.