Does government have the "authority" to force mandatory vaccinations on unwilling individuals ? Where does that authority come from ?

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Rob Roy

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Any idea why your doctor has malpractice insurance? Any idea why the company that manufactured your car has liability insurance?

Dumb question, Bob.


Not as much as assholes who deny the virus is serious.
That was a reply that did little to answer the questions or facilitate "serious discussion".

One reporter, John Rappaport has written several times that "the virus" has never actually been isolated and therefore is unproven to exist.
Any idea why he believes that ?
 

Sativied

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Any idea why vaccine makers want legal immunity from adverse vaccine reactions ? Does that concern you?
Because a tiny percentage of people with adverse reactions, as can be expected from any vaccin, can lead to huge damage claims in absolute numbers.

One reporter, John Rappaport has written several times that "the virus" has never actually been isolated and therefore is unproven to exist.
Any idea why he believes that ?
Is that what you think facilitates “serious discussion“? Any idea why you believe contrarian bullshit? Maybe post another youtube video asking others to refute the nonsense in it. I do agree you should not be vaccinated.
 

CunningCanuk

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That was a reply that did little to answer the questions or facilitate "serious discussion".
I disagree. What do you have against brevity?

One reporter, John Rappaport has written several times that "the virus" has never actually been isolated and therefore is unproven to exist.
Any idea why he believes that ?
No. But why do I care what a “reporter”thinks?

Edited on the advice of @hanimmal.
 
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Rob Roy

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I disagree. What do you have against brevity?


No. But why do I care what a reporter thinks?
I believe he has reported on claims that the virus hasn't been proven to be isolated and that extrapolative speculation (my term, not his) has been used instead of an actual scientific isolation. If I remember correctly a couple of people requested the protocols used to isolate the virus and didn't get very far. I'm paraphrasing from memory. I could probably dig it up if I weren't so lazy this morning.

Your lack of concern for virus makers legal immunity might mean you haven't thought this thru and reject information that doesn't agree with your confirmation bias. I remain open to other possibilities, but you seem reluctant to self examine beyond your bias...
 

hanimmal

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I believe he has reported on claims that the virus hasn't been proven to be isolated and that extrapolative speculation (my term, not his) has been used instead of an actual scientific isolation. If I remember correctly a couple of people requested the protocols used to isolate the virus and didn't get very far. I'm paraphrasing from memory. I could probably dig it up if I weren't so lazy this morning.

Your lack of concern for virus makers legal immunity might mean you haven't thought this thru and reject information that doesn't agree with your confirmation bias. I remain open to other possibilities, but you seem reluctant to self examine beyond your bias...
 

Rob Roy

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Because a tiny percentage of people with adverse reactions, as can be expected from any vaccin, can lead to huge damage claims in absolute numbers.


Is that what you think facilitates “serious discussion“? Any idea why you believe contrarian bullshit? Maybe post another youtube video asking others to refute the nonsense in it. I do agree you should not be vaccinated.
So if a person is forced to be vaccinated, and has serious side effects (or dies) you accept that as "collateral damage" and feel the person should have no recourse ?
 

CunningCanuk

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I believe he has reported on claims that the virus hasn't been proven to be isolated and that extrapolative speculation (my term, not his) has been used instead of an actual scientific isolation. If I remember correctly a couple of people requested the protocols used to isolate the virus and didn't get very far. I'm paraphrasing from memory. I could probably dig it up if I weren't so lazy this morning.

Your lack of concern for virus makers legal immunity might mean you haven't thought this thru and reject information that doesn't agree with your confirmation bias. I remain open to other possibilities, but you seem reluctant to self examine beyond your bias...
What about your bias, Bob? Or your reporter’s bias?

You’ve put words in my mouth. I didn’t say I have no concern about vaccines. I said I have more concern about science deniers, like yourself.
 

Rob Roy

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What about your bias, Bob? Or your reporter’s bias?

You’ve put words in my mouth. I didn’t say I have no concern about vaccines. I said I have more concern about science deniers, like yourself.
I admit a bias against a forced vaccination especially when the makers are granted legal immunity. You should admit your bias towards obedience and being okay with a forced vaccination. Why don't you think you own your own body ?

Science denier ? Are you saying that vaccines makers should be allowed to kill some people from a vaccination in order to prevent other people from maybe dying from a virus that hasn't been isolated, has been over hyped and has a low percent of deaths from people who aren't already burdened with a history of comorbidities ?
 

Rob Roy

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I don’t believe they are any different than other travel restrictions.
So, if you've been raped once, your continual rape then becomes a fait accompli? On that assumption what is the limit of what "they" can impose on us?

If you don't mind could you explain where some people get the right to do this comes from ? I mean if you don't have that right and I don't have that right, we couldn't possibly delegate it to other people could we?
 

CunningCanuk

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So, if you've been raped once, your continual rape then becomes a fait accompli? On that assumption what is the limit of what "they" can impose on us?

If you don't mind could you explain where some people get the right to do this comes from ? I mean if you don't have that right and I don't have that right, we couldn't possibly delegate it to other people could we?
Do you have a passport, Bob?
 

Rob Roy

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Do you have a passport, Bob?
I don't recall having one. The last time I legally crossed imaginary lines (national borders) a drivers license was all that was "required".

I am not a fan of centralized control and have been a vocal opponent of things like real i.d. , "show me your papers" etc. They are like a precursor to dog collars.

I'm sure you will be getting to my question in the previous post concerning where the right to force a vaccination could possibly come from.
 
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