January 6th, 2021

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DIY-HP-LED

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How come this doesn't surprise me? Two weeks before trial and moron has no legal team after a hard scramble to gather one for him. Seems Donald wants to claim he really won the election at his impeachment trial, no dice, looks like it might be Rudy defending him! Perhaps Cruz and Hawley could recuse themselves from the trial and defend him, both are lawyers and very well educated.
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Donald Trump's entire legal team quits week before impeachment trial: Sources - ABC News (go.com)

Donald Trump's entire legal team quits week before impeachment trial: Sources
The team, led by Butch Bowers, has walked away.

All five of the impeachment lawyers who were expected to represent former President Donald Trump have called it quits, sources told ABC News.

The team, led by South Carolina lawyer Butch Bowers, resigned in part because of disagreements over how to mount Trump’s defense, the sources said. The lawyers had planned to argue the constitutionality of holding a trial given Trump is now a former president.

The disagreements over strategy varied, sources told ABC News, but Trump wanted his team to argue there was election fraud, while the lawyers and some top advisers to the former president wanted the focus to remain on the constitutionality of a trial with the president no longer in office.

A source close to the former president described the change as a "mutual decision" between the parties.

Trump was impeached by the House on Jan. 13 on a single article for "incitement of insurrection" following the violent siege at the U.S. Capitol that left one police officer and four others dead and left members of Congress and their staffs fearing for their lives. The insurrection, which took place Jan. 6, was preceded by a Trump rally when he told his followers to head to the Capitol and repeatedly said they should fight for him.

"The Democrats' efforts to impeach a president who has already left office is totally unconstitutional and so bad for our country. In fact, 45 Senators have already voted that it is unconstitutional. We have done much work, but have not made a final decision on our legal team, which will be made shortly,” Jason Miller, a spokesperson for Trump, told ABC News Saturday.

The Senate trial is scheduled to begin on the week of Feb. 8. Two-thirds of the Senate -- or 67 senators -- would need to vote to convict Trump to be successful. That means 17 GOP senators would need to come to the Democrats' side.

Sources believe there will be another round of additions to the team in the coming days though the process is nowhere near finalized with just over a week to go. Many attorneys who worked with or represented Trump during the last impeachment trial are declining to defend him in the Senate.

Trump's former top lawyer, Jay Sekulow, who represented him at his first impeachment trial, will not be taking part in this trial. Rudy Giuliani, Trump's personal lawyer, also said he will not be representing the former president after appearing at the same rally that preceded the siege on the Capitol on Jan. 6.

The attorneys in addition to Bowers who will no longer be representing Trump are Deborah Barbier, Josh Howard, Johnny Gasser and Greg Harris.

Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., who urged Bowers to take the case, told his Senate GOP colleagues on Jan. 21 that Bowers would be representing Trump.

Senate Republicans had asked for a delay in the trial, agreed to by Democrats, following the delivery of the impeachment article in order for Trump to work with his still-forming legal team.
 
Fogdog

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captainmorgan said:
LOL


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House GOP leader fears Trump supporters may assassinate Republicans who vote to impeach: report

Republicans are increasingly worried they may be in danger for not following the demands of violent Trump supporters seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election."There is particular fear among Republicans in Trump-heavy districts who voted against the GOP's doomed bid to overturn the...
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The Republicans they want to murder are the ones brave enough to step away from Trump's shadow. They are on our side now. All is not forgiven but we can settle our differences later.

Now that the leopard is eating their faces, they complain. They were OK with the leopard eating other people's faces but it's a different matter when it eats their own. I get the satisfaction from being able to say "I told you so". But this is like a war now. They are allies.
 
madvillian420

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Fogdog said:
Check your sentence for errors. The first three words, for example.
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check your mouth for my semen. Its nice to know theres someone out there reading my old posts hahaha. Maybe its time to take a break and go outside. I recommend taking up a hobby, learn to grow weed maybe? shooting is another fun one
 
Fogdog

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madvillian420 said:
check your mouth for my semen. Its nice to know theres someone out there reading my old posts hahaha. Maybe its time to take a break and go outside. I recommend taking up a hobby, learn to grow weed maybe? shooting is another fun one
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oh absolutely brilliant. You Retrumplican dick lickers are so good at debate.

Now then, about that thinking thing.

As demonstrated in your post, that thinking thing? Not in your skill set.
 
madvillian420

madvillian420

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Fogdog said:
oh absolutely brilliant. You Retrumplican dick lickers are so good at debate.

Now then, about that thinking thing.

As demonstrated in your post, that thinking thing? Not in your skill set.
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im not a republican you dork lol. i dont play your little red vs blue fantasy game. Fuck trump.

You spend all day debating politics on a weed growing forum, sir.
your opinion means less than shit
 
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Trump Struggles to Find Attorneys Willing to Represent Him at Senate Impeachment Trial. Here's why.

Donald Trump has struggled to find defense attorneys who are willing to represent him in his upcoming Senate impeachment trial. This is entirely unsurprising given that, 1. Trump is famous for stiffing his attorneys and 2. Trump reportedly is insisting on a defense that includes a false claim that the election was stolen from him.

Although the rules and procedures at a criminal trial versus an impeachment trial bear little resemblance to one another, there is one important similarity. In both criminal and impeachment trials, attorneys can be sanctioned and/or disbarred for offering demonstrably false defenses.

As a 30-year prosecutor, I often encountered defendants who tried to convince their attorneys to offer absurd or flat-out false defenses at trial. I called these the "rocket to Mars" defenses. Here's why Trump's version of the "rocket to Mars" defense is unlikely to make an appearance at his Senate impeachment trial.
 
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77 Days: Trump’s Campaign to Subvert the Election - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

77 Days: Trump’s Campaign to Subvert the Election
Hours after the United States voted, the president declared the election a fraud — a lie that unleashed a movement that would shatter democratic norms and upend the peaceful transfer of power.

By Thursday the 12th of November, President Donald J. Trump’s election lawyers were concluding that the reality he faced was the inverse of the narrative he was promoting in his comments and on Twitter. There was no substantial evidence of election fraud, and there were nowhere near enough “irregularities” to reverse the outcome in the courts.

Mr. Trump did not, could not, win the election, not by “a lot” or even a little. His presidency would soon be over.

Allegations of Democratic malfeasance had disintegrated in embarrassing fashion. A supposed suitcase of illegal ballots in Detroit proved to be a box of camera equipment. “Dead voters” were turning up alive in television and newspaper interviews.

The week was coming to a particularly demoralizing close: In Arizona, the Trump lawyers were preparing to withdraw their main lawsuit as the state tally showed Joseph R. Biden Jr. leading by more than 10,000 votes, against the 191 ballots they had identified for challenge.

As he met with colleagues to discuss strategy, the president’s deputy campaign manager, Justin Clark, was urgently summoned to the Oval Office. Mr. Trump’s personal lawyer, Rudolph W. Giuliani, was on speaker phone, pressing the president to file a federal suit in Georgia and sharing a conspiracy theory gaining traction in conservative media — that Dominion Systems voting machines had transformed thousands of Trump votes into Biden votes.

Mr. Clark warned that the suit Mr. Giuliani had in mind would be dismissed on procedural grounds. And a state audit was barreling toward a conclusion that the Dominion machines had operated without interference or foul play.

Mr. Giuliani called Mr. Clark a liar, according to people with direct knowledge of the exchange. Mr. Clark called Mr. Giuliani something much worse. And with that, the election-law experts were sidelined in favor of the former New York City mayor, the man who once again was telling the president what he wanted to hear.

Thursday the 12th was the day Mr. Trump’s flimsy, long-shot legal effort to reverse his loss turned into something else entirely — an extralegal campaign to subvert the election, rooted in a lie so convincing to some of his most devoted followers that it made the deadly Jan. 6 assault on the Capitol almost inevitable.

Weeks later, Mr. Trump is the former President Trump. In coming days, a presidential transition like no other will be dissected when he stands trial in the Senate on an impeachment charge of “incitement of insurrection.” Yet his lie of an election stolen by corrupt and evil forces lives on in a divided America.

A New York Times examination of the 77 democracy-bending days between election and inauguration shows how, with conspiratorial belief rife in a country ravaged by pandemic, a lie that Mr. Trump had been grooming for years finally overwhelmed the Republican Party and, as brake after brake fell away, was propelled forward by new and more radical lawyers, political organizers, financiers and the surround-sound right-wing media.

In the aftermath of that broken afternoon at the Capitol, a picture has emerged of entropic forces coming together on Trump’s behalf in an ad hoc, yet calamitous, crash of rage and denial.

But interviews with central players, and documents including previously unreported emails, videos and social media posts scattered across the web, tell a more encompassing story of a more coordinated campaign.

Across those 77 days, the forces of disorder were summoned and directed by the departing president, who wielded the power derived from his near-infallible status among the party faithful in one final norm-defying act of a reality-denying presidency.

Throughout, he was enabled by influential Republicans motivated by ambition, fear or a misplaced belief that he would not go too far.

In the Senate, he got early room to maneuver from the majority leader, Mitch McConnell. As he sought the president’s help in Georgia runoffs that could cost him his own grip on power, Mr. McConnell heeded misplaced assurances from White House aides like Jared Kushner that Mr. Trump would eventually accede to reality, people close to the senator told The Times. Mr. McConnell’s later recognition of Mr. Biden’s victory would not be enough to dissuade 14 Republican senators from joining the president’s last-ditch bid to nullify millions of Americans’ votes.

Likewise, during the campaign, Attorney General William P. Barr had echoed some of Mr. Trump’s complaints of voter fraud. But privately the president was chafing at Mr. Barr’s resistance to his more authoritarian impulses — including his idea to end birthright citizenship in a legally dubious pre-election executive order. And when Mr. Barr informed Mr. Trump in a tense Oval Office session that the Justice Department’s fraud investigations had run dry, the president dismissed the department as derelict before finding other officials there who would view things his way.
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Capitol Rioters May Be Ready to Start Snitching on Each Other
As thousands of MAGA supporters stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6, some insurrectionists urged their fellow rioters to “hold the line” against law enforcement defending the beacon of democracy.

“Listen, guys, they only got so much mace. And we got all these patriots. We’re not running out. They’re going to run out,” Mathew Capsel, who was captured on video assaulting several National Guard members during the insurrection, said in a TikTok video. “Hold the line. Don’t run.”
Marine veteran Hector Vargas Santos posted a similar message on Facebook: “WE THE PEOPLE TOOK OVER THE U.S. CAPITOL. #HOLDTHELINE.”
Now, it appears several rioters are abandoning the group’s original rallying cry to never give up—potentially opting for plea agreements with prosecutors to save their own skin.

‘Cowboys for Trump’ Leader Charged in Capitol Riots Met Ex-President ‘Several Times’
More than 150 individuals across 39 states have been federally charged for participating in the Capitol siege. While a majority of these Trump supporters only face misdemeanor charges, recent court documents suggest that some are planning to plead guilty or take plea deals in exchange for their cooperation in ongoing investigations.

According to federal court records, at least three rioters have agreed to be charged by information—a process generally used by those planning to plead guilty—instead of waiting for a grand jury indictment. Like an indictment, an information is still a charging document outlining an individual’s alleged crimes.

“Informations are a clear sign that these defendants intend to plead guilty,” former federal prosecutor Neama Rahman told The Daily Beast. “Defense attorneys do not advise clients to waive their right to an indictment (or in rare cases, a preliminary hearing) unless there are active plea negotiations and an offer on the table.”

“Even if there is the potential for cooperation against others, defendants will usually plead guilty, then cooperate with the government before they are sentenced, whether that be a proffer, testifying before the Grand Jury, or testifying at trial,” he added.
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Capitol Rioters May Be Ready to Start Snitching on Each Other

Samuel Corum/GettyAs thousands of MAGA supporters stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6, some insurrectionists urged their fellow rioters to “hold the line” against law enforcement defending the beacon of democracy.“Listen, guys, they only got so much mace. And we got all these patriots. We’re not...
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Trump WH Planned March That Led To Capitol Insurrection

As new riot evidence emerges against Trump, he plans on exploiting his upcoming impeachment trial as a chance to double down on his election lies that fed the insurrection at the Capitol. MSNBC’s Ari Melber reports on how the White House helped plan the march on the Capitol that eventually devolved into insurrection and explains that Trump’s trial will bring out “more hard truths” about how far-reaching support for the insurrection truly was.
 
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