January 6th, 2021

captainmorgan

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Looks like the DOJ is going to prosecute these treasonous assholes to the full extent of the law, looking like the people that attacked the capital will be spending many years in prison, fuck em.


 

BudmanTX

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There was no accidental about this, imho. The semi beginning is when he mentioned the Proud Boys while standing at the podium inside the whitehouse, something like "when I give you the signal", the second was soaking distrust in the election results, 3rd was the speech right before the riot happened, with all his buddies watching. Personally, him, his sons, his daughters, Guilliani, and Roger Stone need to be put up with charges....andfsimply end his career of being a politican permanently.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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The Capitol Rioters Aren’t Like Other Extremists - The Atlantic

The Capitol Rioters Aren’t Like Other Extremists
We analyzed 193 people arrested in connection with the January 6 riot—and found a new kind of American radicalism.

Insurrectionists at the U.S Capitol on January 6

VICTOR J. BLUE/BLOOMBERG VIA GETTY
On January 6, a mob of about 800 stormed the U.S. Capitol in support of former President Donald Trump, and many people made quick assumptions regarding who the insurrectionists were. Because a number of the rioters prominently displayed symbols of right-wing militias, for instance, some experts called for a crackdown on such groups. Violence organized and carried out by far-right militant organizations is disturbing, but it at least falls into a category familiar to law enforcement and the general public. However, a closer look at the people suspected of taking part in the Capitol riot suggests a different and potentially far more dangerous problem: a new kind of violent mass movement in which more “normal” Trump supporters—middle-class and, in many cases, middle-aged people without obvious ties to the far right—joined with extremists in an attempt to overturn a presidential election.

To understand the events of January 6 and devise solutions to prevent their recurrence, Americans need a fine-grained comprehension of who attacked the Capitol. Understanding the ideology and beliefs of those who commit political violence is important, but so is knowing what kind of people they are and what their lives are like.

For the past decade and a half, our research team at the Chicago Project on Security and Threats has conducted demographic studies of international and domestic terrorists. Four years ago, our study of 112 people who U.S. authorities suspected were involved with the Islamic State undercut a widespread assumption that supporters of the group were uneducated, isolated, and unemployed.
In recent weeks, our team of more than 20 researchers has been reviewing court documents and media coverage for information on the demographics, socioeconomic traits, and militant-group affiliations (if any) of everyone arrested by the FBI, Capitol Police, and Washington, D.C., police for offenses related to the January 6 insurrection. As of late last week, 235 people fell into that category, and the number is expected to grow.

Of these suspects, 193 have been charged with being inside the Capitol building or with breaking through barriers to enter the Capitol grounds. We focused our research on these 193. We compared our findings on these suspected insurrectionists with demographic data that we had previously compiled on the 108 individuals arrested by the FBI and local law-enforcement agencies around the country for violence related to right-wing political causes from 2015 to 2020. We used the same methodology to analyze both groups: Our team reviewed all court documents related to each arrest—which include criminal complaints, statement of facts, and affidavits—and conducted searches of media coverage of each arrestee. Four findings stand out.

First, the attack on the Capitol was unmistakably an act of political violence, not merely an exercise in vandalism or trespassing amid a disorderly protest that had spiraled out of control. The overwhelming reason for action, cited again and again in court documents, was that arrestees were following Trump’s orders to keep Congress from certifying Joe Biden as the presidential-election winner. Dozens of arrestees, court records indicate, made statements explaining their intentions in detail on social media or in interviews with the FBI. “I am incredibly proud to be a patriot today,” wrote a 37-year-old man from Beverly Hills, California, “to stand up tall in defense of liberty & the Constitution, to support Trump & #MAGAforever, & to send the message: WE ARE NEVER CONCEDING A STOLEN ELECTION.”

Second, a large majority of suspects in the Capitol riot have no connection to existing far-right militias, white-nationalist gangs, or other established violent organizations. We erred on the side of inclusion; we counted an arrestee as affiliated with such an organization if any court documents or news articles describe the person as a member, refer to social-media posts expressing an affinity for a certain group, or attest to patches or apparel that directly indicate support.

By these standards, 20 of the Capitol arrestees we studied— one-tenth—can be classified as supporters of gangs, militias, or militia-like groups such as the Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, and Three Percenters. The role that such groups played in the riot has attracted considerable news coverage. But 89 percent of the arrestees have no apparent affiliation with any known militant organization.

Connections were far more common among the suspected right-wing extremists arrested after incidents of deadly violence from 2015 to 2020. Of these, 26 percent were members of white-nationalist gangs (including skinhead groups and the Aryan Brotherhood), and 22 percent were part of militias and other organized groups (such as the Oath Keepers and Three Percenters).

A chart of Capitol arrestees who have ties to militias or white-nationalist gangs.

Third, the demographic profile of the suspected Capitol rioters is different from that of past right-wing extremists. The average age of the arrestees we studied is 40. Two-thirds are 35 or older, and 40 percent are business owners or hold white-collar jobs. Unlike the stereotypical extremist, many of the alleged participants in the Capitol riot have a lot to lose. They work as CEOs, shop owners, doctors, lawyers, IT specialists, and accountants. Strikingly, court documents indicate that only 9 percent are unemployed. Of the earlier far-right-extremist suspects we studied, 61 percent were under 35, 25 percent were unemployed, and almost none worked in white-collar occupations.

Fourth, most of the insurrectionists do not come from deep-red strongholds. People familiar with America’s political geography might imagine the Capitol rioters as having marinated in places where they are unlikely to encounter anyone from the opposite side of the political spectrum. Yet of those arrested for their role in the Capitol riot, more than half came from counties that Biden won; one-sixth came from counties that Trump won with less than 60 percent of the vote.
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hanimmal

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My fault. It's up to a 150,000 dollar fine and 6 months in jail.

It is already in effect.
Wouldn't you get a 'cease and desist' letter first (if they had a issue with it)?

I look at it as us being in a disinformation age, taking the time to repost actual factual content is more important than ever.
 

TacoMac

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Tough fucking shit :) :) :)
Laugh all you want.

It's patent copyright infringement and it's illegal.

What's more, you're doing it on a site that's advertising for money.

That makes it even worse.

At least this site can't say it wasn't warned.
 

hanimmal

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Laugh all you want.

It's patent copyright infringement and it's illegal.

What's more, you're doing it on a site that's advertising for money.

That makes it even worse.

At least this site can't say it wasn't warned.
Are you a cease and desist warning?
 

Jimdamick

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The Capitol Rioters Aren’t Like Other Extremists - The Atlantic

The Capitol Rioters Aren’t Like Other Extremists
We analyzed 193 people arrested in connection with the January 6 riot—and found a new kind of American radicalism.

Insurrectionists at the U.S Capitol on January 6

VICTOR J. BLUE/BLOOMBERG VIA GETTY
On January 6, a mob of about 800 stormed the U.S. Capitol in support of former President Donald Trump, and many people made quick assumptions regarding who the insurrectionists were. Because a number of the rioters prominently displayed symbols of right-wing militias, for instance, some experts called for a crackdown on such groups. Violence organized and carried out by far-right militant organizations is disturbing, but it at least falls into a category familiar to law enforcement and the general public. However, a closer look at the people suspected of taking part in the Capitol riot suggests a different and potentially far more dangerous problem: a new kind of violent mass movement in which more “normal” Trump supporters—middle-class and, in many cases, middle-aged people without obvious ties to the far right—joined with extremists in an attempt to overturn a presidential election.

To understand the events of January 6 and devise solutions to prevent their recurrence, Americans need a fine-grained comprehension of who attacked the Capitol. Understanding the ideology and beliefs of those who commit political violence is important, but so is knowing what kind of people they are and what their lives are like.

For the past decade and a half, our research team at the Chicago Project on Security and Threats has conducted demographic studies of international and domestic terrorists. Four years ago, our study of 112 people who U.S. authorities suspected were involved with the Islamic State undercut a widespread assumption that supporters of the group were uneducated, isolated, and unemployed.
In recent weeks, our team of more than 20 researchers has been reviewing court documents and media coverage for information on the demographics, socioeconomic traits, and militant-group affiliations (if any) of everyone arrested by the FBI, Capitol Police, and Washington, D.C., police for offenses related to the January 6 insurrection. As of late last week, 235 people fell into that category, and the number is expected to grow.

Of these suspects, 193 have been charged with being inside the Capitol building or with breaking through barriers to enter the Capitol grounds. We focused our research on these 193. We compared our findings on these suspected insurrectionists with demographic data that we had previously compiled on the 108 individuals arrested by the FBI and local law-enforcement agencies around the country for violence related to right-wing political causes from 2015 to 2020. We used the same methodology to analyze both groups: Our team reviewed all court documents related to each arrest—which include criminal complaints, statement of facts, and affidavits—and conducted searches of media coverage of each arrestee. Four findings stand out.

First, the attack on the Capitol was unmistakably an act of political violence, not merely an exercise in vandalism or trespassing amid a disorderly protest that had spiraled out of control. The overwhelming reason for action, cited again and again in court documents, was that arrestees were following Trump’s orders to keep Congress from certifying Joe Biden as the presidential-election winner. Dozens of arrestees, court records indicate, made statements explaining their intentions in detail on social media or in interviews with the FBI. “I am incredibly proud to be a patriot today,” wrote a 37-year-old man from Beverly Hills, California, “to stand up tall in defense of liberty & the Constitution, to support Trump & #MAGAforever, & to send the message: WE ARE NEVER CONCEDING A STOLEN ELECTION.”

Second, a large majority of suspects in the Capitol riot have no connection to existing far-right militias, white-nationalist gangs, or other established violent organizations. We erred on the side of inclusion; we counted an arrestee as affiliated with such an organization if any court documents or news articles describe the person as a member, refer to social-media posts expressing an affinity for a certain group, or attest to patches or apparel that directly indicate support.

By these standards, 20 of the Capitol arrestees we studied— one-tenth—can be classified as supporters of gangs, militias, or militia-like groups such as the Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, and Three Percenters. The role that such groups played in the riot has attracted considerable news coverage. But 89 percent of the arrestees have no apparent affiliation with any known militant organization.

Connections were far more common among the suspected right-wing extremists arrested after incidents of deadly violence from 2015 to 2020. Of these, 26 percent were members of white-nationalist gangs (including skinhead groups and the Aryan Brotherhood), and 22 percent were part of militias and other organized groups (such as the Oath Keepers and Three Percenters).

A chart of Capitol arrestees who have ties to militias or white-nationalist gangs.

Third, the demographic profile of the suspected Capitol rioters is different from that of past right-wing extremists. The average age of the arrestees we studied is 40. Two-thirds are 35 or older, and 40 percent are business owners or hold white-collar jobs. Unlike the stereotypical extremist, many of the alleged participants in the Capitol riot have a lot to lose. They work as CEOs, shop owners, doctors, lawyers, IT specialists, and accountants. Strikingly, court documents indicate that only 9 percent are unemployed. Of the earlier far-right-extremist suspects we studied, 61 percent were under 35, 25 percent were unemployed, and almost none worked in white-collar occupations.

Fourth, most of the insurrectionists do not come from deep-red strongholds. People familiar with America’s political geography might imagine the Capitol rioters as having marinated in places where they are unlikely to encounter anyone from the opposite side of the political spectrum. Yet of those arrested for their role in the Capitol riot, more than half came from counties that Biden won; one-sixth came from counties that Trump won with less than 60 percent of the vote.
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We're fucked
Yin/Yang
Over 40 % of the population of this country, at least, is fucked up
Oh fucking well
Cheers!!!

 

DIY-HP-LED

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'Evidence Is Overwhelming': Trump Impeachment Manager Says He's 'Responsible' For Riot

Impeachment managers filed their 80-page brief ahead of the Senate trial against Trump. Rep. Adam Schiff, who was the lead impeachment manager for Trump’s first impeachment trial, joins MSNBC’s Chief Legal Correspondent Ari Melber to discuss the case against the former president, Trump’s false claims the trial is “unconstitutional,” and the “powerful” and “overwhelming” evidence against him.
 

TacoMac

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I love how the guy just bailed on the whole thing.

Obviously, he doesn't want to be the next guy sued by Dominion.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Why the Second Trump Impeachment Will be Nothing Like the First

Former Lead Impeachment Counsel Daniel Goldman joins Mehdi Hasan to explain why the Trump legal team's arguments do not hold water, and what that means for next week's proceedings.
 

printer

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After the lawsuits, all the right wing news outlets read a statement saying there was no evidence of machines switching votes. Looked like a hostage video. lol
That darn evidence thing, gets them every time. As long as a courtroom is a distinct possibility.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Rachel Maddow Says Donald Trump's Impeachment Defense Gives the GOP a Catch-22 (newsweek.com)

Rachel Maddow Says Donald Trump's Impeachment Defense Gives the GOP a Catch-22

A brief submitted by the legal team of former President Donald Trump to defend him from charges of "inciting insurrection" in his upcoming Senate impeachment trial states that he still considers himself president, an assertion that potentially places Senate Republicans in a Catch-22 situation, forcing them either to contradict Trump or contradict their own claims that he's an ex-president, and thus un-impeachable.

The Quote
Speaking on MSNBC, political commentator Rachel Maddow said Tuesday night:

"The President's defense brief did, in fact, argue Trump's line that Joe Biden maybe wasn't legitimately elected to be president. The whole brief, for one, never once describes Donald Trump as the former or previous president... The brief argues that the election results that voted Trump out and Biden in, it argues that those results are, and I quote, 'suspect.' It argues that when President Trump told his supporters on the day of the attack that he had actually won the election in a landslide, well they argue in their brief today that there's no evidence to say that's false."

Why it Matters
Trump's defense states in part that he can't be convicted of inciting an insurrection on January 6 because, the brief claims, he was merely stating his belief that he won the election in a landslide—even though more than 60 lawsuits making similar assertions have mostly been thrown out of courts due to lack of evidence.

As such, Trump's defense potentially puts Senate Republicans in an awkward position.

On January 27, 45 Senate Republicans voted to declare the impeachment trial unconstitutional because, they said, you can't impeach an ex-president. However, since Trump says he's still president, that means he believes that he can in fact still be impeached, thus contradicting the 45 Senate Republicans who said otherwise.

If Senate Republicans assert that Trump isn't the rightful president, that would directly contradict Trump and undermine a key part of his legal defense. That would also leave Republicans subject to possible harassment and death threats from some Trump supporters who also believe that he did win the election and that key Republicans haven't done enough to help him stay in power.

The Counterpoint
Regardless of Trump's legal defense, there aren't enough Senate votes to impeach him in the upper chamber. For impeachment to occur, 17 Senate Republicans would need to cross party lines and vote with Democrats to convict him, but only five Senate Republicans voted to hold the trial to begin with.

While the impeachment trial could still drag down Republicans' public image— especially if insurrectionists are called in to testify and blame Trump's words for inciting them to riot—he won't likely be convicted.

South Carolina Republican Senator Lindsey Graham has said that calling witnesses will "open a can of worms," causing the trial to stretch out for months as senators question FBI agents about the numerous organizers behind the January 6 "Stop the Steal" rally where Trump made his comments.

However, Graham's claim may just be a warning to Democrats: The longer Senate is held up with impeachment business, the less time it will give towards confirming President Biden's political appointees or considering legislation to further Biden's agenda.
 
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