Proud Boys assaulting a couple for ~90 seconds nsfw

Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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DIY-HP-LED said:
100,00 years ago the chief of the tribe would have given you a death sentence by turfing your ass out and you would have died alone in the wilderness, humans cannot survive outside of a social context. That's what they did for antisocial behavior, if you were an outcast all the neighboring tribes knew what you were. There are no real individuals, that is a myth, there are communities, individuals are lonely and unhappy and exist outside the circle of caring and sharing that most normal humans crave and need. The cult of the individual is just libertarian bullshit, not a real thing, hermits live alone the spiritual ones have a plan, a practice and lead disciplined lives, others like those in the west are just mentally ill.
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Being an individual doesn't mean a person can't have beneficial relationships with other individuals.

I don't think you know the actual meaning of libertarian and you might be drunk.
 
PadawanWarrior

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Mr_X said:
He was THREATENED, cornered, punched, and surrounded by more people hitting him. In order to charge someone, you need intent. The guy verbally threatened him, and intentionally punched him in the head, then the other guy had to defend himself from imminent danger. But yes, each of those individuals who were involved committing a crime are fucked.
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They don't need to prove intent. If someone intoxicated kills someone in a car crash they can be charged even though they didn't intend to hurt anyone.
 
Mr_X

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PadawanWarrior said:
They don't need to prove intent. If someone intoxicated kills someone in a car crash they can be charged even though they didn't intend to hurt anyone.
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alcohol and drug cases are different, because the individual is not in the right state of mind due to the substance the person is taking. being intoxicated and driving a car is a crime itself.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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Rob Roy said:
Being an individual doesn't mean a person can't have beneficial relationships with other individuals.

I don't think you know the actual meaning of libertarian and you might be drunk.
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No Rob individual mean you stand apart and put yourself before others, real relationships are not transactional, like they are with Trump and those who think like him. Real relationships are about caring and sharing, in families and communities too. Sure there there is trade and business, humans have traded for as long as we sang, danced and worshiped piles of rocks, but the transactions always happened inside and between communities and fairness was the currency. Things have changed though, we have a lot more "individuals" these days, but still have sharing caring communities.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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DIY-HP-LED said:
No Rob individual mean you stand apart and put yourself before others, real relationships are not transactional, like they are with Trump and those who think like him. Real relationships are about caring and sharing, in families and communities too. Sure there there is trade and business, humans have traded for as long as we sang, danced and worshiped piles of rocks, but the transactions always happened inside and between communities and fairness was the currency. Things have changed though, we have a lot more "individuals" these days, but still have sharing caring communities.
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The best kind of relationships are the kind that are voluntary.
 
Mr_X

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Hes going to be charged with assault with a deadly weapon and bodily injury. Depending on the size of the knife may lessen or greaten the charge. Since he was defending himself from imminent danger, they'll probably give him a plea deal and find him guilty of a lesser charge and give him probation and community service. im no lawyer, so idk.
 
DIY-HP-LED

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Dryxi said:
How long has it been a battle between Republicans and Democrats? A pretty long time (100+ years). I am sure only one side is corrupt and the power struggle hasn't led to corruption on all sides. To assume only one side is corrupt, plays favors, or helps themselves secure more power/influence.... sounds naïve. Trump was the worst and has made the climate even worse. Trump needed go, we can all agree. Does that make all Republicans evil or Democrats less corrupt just because Trump was in office? We need to get off this "Republicans are evil, racist, and the ultimate example of corruption!"

Republicans are lost atm. In no small part due to Trump. As if the rhetoric coming out of the other side has done nothing to play into the division. Making politics a black and white issue of us vs them doesn't help.

250 million people participated in a general strike in India to change how their government was acting. 250 million people. DvR just sounds like a method to keep that from ever happening.

(Edit: Moved sentence around to make more sense, my train of thought jumps)
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One side supports the constitution and one side clearly wants to destroy it, it doesn't matter much at this point in history what their motives are, racism, stupidity or even if they have fallen under a magic spell. We live in this moment of history and while we can learn from the past we cannot relieve it. In this historical moment the lines of division are crystal clear, you very nearly lost your country constitution and freedom and need to apprehend the danger. This is not politics, this is a pivotal period in American history and the nation is held in the balance. You are but one election cycle from losing it all, the intentions of the republicans is clear from their actions, not their words.

This cannot and will not be forgotten and should not be. Why do you think over 500,000 thousand died, were they not casualties of war? I'm Canadian and if you had the same per capita death rate as my country the toll would be 100,000 instead of the catastrophe that befell you. To forgive and forget is to kick the families of their victims in the teeth and spit in their faces. Somethings are unforgivable for many people and mass murder is one of them. This is not politics it is war and it will be war for a long time to come, get used to it, or roll over and die now. They declared war upon you if you are a patriot and they did it a long time ago, most American patriots have awakened to this unpleasant fact of life by now.

There will be no de-escalation on the part of patriots, in deed most haven't even begun to fight. Peace and calm will prevail in the land however, that helps the patriots side, cools things down and allows people to introspect and gives them space to evolve. That's Joe's plan, to calm things down and allow some folks some time to think things over. This is a cold civil war and it is best fought cold, by those who use reason and logic. It's about hearts and minds, winning over a few percent of them and isolating the racists, of sowing division among them and breaking them down. It's war though and no longer politics, that requires good will on both sides and those republicans who wish to be treated as patriots and not enemies had better put some light and air between themselves and traitors to the constitution.
 
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Rob Roy

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DIY-HP-LED said:
No, they are soldiers who are doing their duty and enemy soldiers recognize that and they have a Geneva convention on POWs for that reason.

Calling someone who defends your miserable ass a murder means you are an ingrate as well as an asshole. I guess the US military contains too many minorities for you, its a meritocracy of racial equality and an example to the country of what it should be, the modern US military is a social leader. That's why so many of these militia types have no military training, some do, but they are military rejects for the most part and could not survive the social conditions. Many good old boys would like to serve, like guns and uniforms, but can't take orders from a black female drill sergeant who is better, smarter and tougher than them and she proves it everyday in their face. Sure when there's a war standards drop and the white trash gets in when Uncle Sam needs more warm bodies and many of them with training are leftovers from that.
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The US military (army) has soldiers take an oath to the constitution, yet a standing army isn't authorized by the constitution.

Sounds legit. Lol.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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Rob Roy said:
The US military (army) has soldiers take an oath to the constitution, yet a standing army isn't authorized by the constitution.

Sounds legit. Lol.
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Take it up with the government, you can have an army under law, no constitutional authority required. The SCOTUS said the constitution is not a suicide pact, you haven't figured this out. Stop inflicting your antiauthority neuroses on others in the guise of political philosophy. If you are interested in such topics take a political science course online, but start with a basic civics course first, Folks are sick of teaching you basic civics and civilized behavior, you are as incapable of change and growth as Trump. Come back when you grow up, meaning never.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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Rob Roy said:
That was deep man.
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It is also true, even if you don't control your mind and never can, you can control who you keep company with and choose to be friends or even attend to. You are here, though most have you on ignore and never see your drivel, I'm just bored tonight and feel like reaming some assholes.
 
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