hanimmal
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"We all know about Russia", then you spout Russian propaganda?
From your own link to the fact checking of it:
Proud Boys assaulting a couple for ~90 seconds nsfw
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From your own link to the fact checking of it:
UncleBuck
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then why are you fucking crying, cuck
PatientGuddanStownd
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if you read the whole thing it says that hillary voted to approve, among others on the committee, the sale and that the president approved it.
hanimmal
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And is it a scandal that a Canadian company was voted by committees to do something with their own company? Just because there are some facts in propaganda doesn't mean that it is not still propaganda.
Why is this something you tie to Clinton and her somehow being corrupt?
Fogdog
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to be fair, non-sequitur
What Trump did is on Trump and his supporters are a violent death cult.
PatientGuddanStownd
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"On April 23, 2015, the New York Times wrote about the uranium issue, saying the paper had “built upon” Schweizer’s information.
The Times detailed how the Clinton Foundation had received millions in donations from investors in Uranium One.
The donations from those with ties to Uranium One weren’t publicly disclosed by the Clinton Foundation, even though Hillary Clinton had an agreement with the White House that the foundation would disclose all contributors. Days after the Times story, the foundation acknowledged that it “made mistakes,” saying it had disclosed donations from a Canadian charity, for instance, but not the donors to that charity who were associated with the uranium company."
this is from the same article that i don't think you read all of.
hanimmal
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Moreover, think about why this is even something that registers with you all these years later. Is it really so scandalizing that it beats out Trump selling Nuclear tech to the Saudi's when congress did not approve it?
DIY-HP-LED
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Don't post video clips with the audio full on dummy!
Fogdog
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This thread is about neo-fascist Proud Boys rioting in the streets over Trump's failed attempt at establishing his autocracy.
Trump just attempted to overthrow the 2020 election where he lost fair and square. Now he's fanning the flames of violence.
I understand why you want to discuss your alternative history. The current actions taken by Republicans are deplorable.
PatientGuddanStownd
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this was part of a response from me to someone saying that democrats are not corrupt. i am not pro one-side or the other.
i think if we really want to make this country unified, we have to decide what we stand for. we can't give out passes to people that are doing wrong just because we like them or agree with their policies.
not once have i said that i choose one side or the other. you people boxed me in because i dare to air out dirt and question why it seemed acceptable that non-combative trump supporters (they exist) were assaulted but what happened in op's first post was an atrocity. it is don't get me wrong. i don't advocate violence toward anyone. and i really believe most of us just want peace.
PatientGuddanStownd
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trump should not have done that.
gonna play devil's advocate again on this one though. presidents pull shit bag moves all the time. president obama air dropped hundreds of millions in cash and gold in iran over night without congress. he also full on allowed them to develop nuclear power plants which put them close to a nuclear arms program. so, why is that cool? nobody gets a pass.
DIY-HP-LED
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2015, uranium deal, Hillary blah, blah. Trump tried real hard to put her in prison for four years, judges hear cases if there is one and juries decide guilt or innocence unanimously. Don't you even know how your country and it's legal system work?
This thread is about traitors and treason, the radical fringe of the 74 million moral failures and traitors to the US constitution who supported it destruction, by supporting Trump.
So what's jerking your chain so hard it caused yer head to pop off? Does Dylan Roof speak for you too, as well as all Trump supporters? Dylan told the cops, "They are taking over", as justification for mass murder, it's the same justification used for sedition and treason now, though most like you won't admit it. It's the same excuse they use to kill democracy and the constitution, they were ok with them as long as the brown folks didn't get some, when they did, they turned fascist. Are you to be numbered among the treasonous? This will not be forgiven or forgotten, long after Trump is wearing a jumpsuit in a supermax and even dead and in Hell. We live in the internet age and this shit lasts forever online, along with their shame and treason.
Either come on side and figure out the true nature of reality, or STFU and stop embarrassing yourself, I only had to glance at your posts to know what you are. If you don't know Trump is a grifter you are the mark. Prove to me you have a brain or integrity and speak the truth, otherwise folks might think you are just another mark, a sucker and a loser.
hanimmal
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Right, but are you sure this is corrupt? What exactly about it is corrupt? Did Clinton have anything to do with the actual deal and how would she have known that the people donating to the Clinton foundation were apart of it (are you saying that they were apart of it even).
You do understand that the Democratic party did not see Russia as a enemy until they started their attack on our nation right? Shit Obama even said that in a debate with Romney.
Are you saying that this propagandized and spammed click bait of a story being sold to the Republicans on Right wing media is anything even close to Trump giving the Russian military all of the data on American citizens that he received from the RNC so that they could attack our citizens to help him beat Clinton?
It is not even close to being the same thing.
Nor is it even close to the same as Trump allowing the Saudi's (who are pumping millions into his pockets through his rental properties and hotels which is against our laws) to conduct genocide in Yemen with our weapons while murdering American journalists.
We won't be able to be unified until we can get people to understand the facts of the situation. When 20-30% of our nation is stuck in a information bubble created by Trump's troll army (foreign and domestic) they can't even agree on what a fact is.
And that is not a 'Right' 'Left' problem, everyone regardless of side is under this attack. Subtle little nudges pushing people apart in any way they can possibly find. Sorting through your friends lists to make sure anyone they can nudge is getting radicalized on whatever issue it is that they can divide them with in real life.
Until we can even agree that we are under a militarized assault, which Trump has spent 4 years actively stopping us from being able to see much less respond to, we won't be unified.
I never said you did say you picked a side. "You people" just shows how little about the attack that the Russian military is conducting on our society you truly understand.
If I didn't say it, don't assume I even know what you are talking about.
If you are feeling under attack, ignore the person attacking you, because it is designed to stop you from being able to actually have a conversation without at the very least being on defense and no longer having a open mind as you feel the need to rebut everything which is impossible to do without reading more into what someone else has said.
Trolls are all around you man, this is what people need to start to understand before you can even move onto the actual full set of facts in any situation much less agree on how to overcome them.
You know that the cash given to Iran was their money that was in banks outside of their country and we didn't give them shit. More made up nonsense trolling that the Trump noise factory is/was pushing.
Did you know there is a lot of science that is conducted with nuclear science that has nothing to do with actual nuclear weapons? It was something I learned when talking with some Iranian students who were studying in Phd programs when I was in school.
Can you blame them for wanting a stable power grid and all the great jobs that they could do with full access to all the worlds scientific advancements?
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Mr_X
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Bush passed an act in 2001 that let Obama do it. Its called AUMF (Authorization for the Use of Military Force). It was used during the 9/11 terrorist attacks. The AUMF law authorizes the president to use all necessary and appropriate force against nations that aided the terrorist attacks that occured on 9/11. Since we have troops in the middle east, some could argue that we are still "at war" which justifies Obamas action. Bush gave Obama the pass. Thanks Bush.
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PatientGuddanStownd
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i literally couldn't be further from what you think i am. i see violence and i don't like it. i wanted it to be known that just because we might be on the same side, i will not let bullshit stand. violence needs to end. corruption needs to end.
"numbered among the treasonous"???? dude wtf. you ever been in the shit?
nobody should live in fear. that little diatribe of yours is dangerous. leads to fights, leads to worse. we need peace.
never should have tried. boredom is dangerous. poli-trap thread
DIY-HP-LED
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Do you think Trump is a criminal asshole or not?
I didn't say you were violent, you are probably one of the "nice people" who voted for Trump.
You did vote for Trump? Trump and the republicans did have no platform, didn't they? Trump directly violated the US constitution and advocated it overthrow, both pre and post election? If you do not support the US constitution and support those who would openly destroy it, are you not a traitor to it?
We need to get these basic issues out of the way first. There is no point in an American or anybody else, discussing the details of policy with you until you declare your loyalty to your country. If you voted for Trump you are a fascist and by nature incapable of politics as usual, that requires integrity and good will on both sides. There is no walking back from this after the election those who followed Trump went through the gates of Hell.
No excuses, a child would have known better and most did.
UncleBuck
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PatientGuddanStownd
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asshole--probably, criminal--decided in court not an internet echo chamber.
the best way to get an honest opinion of a situation is too sit back and look. you have continually threatened your enemies. unprovoked. without even really knowing if an enemy is typing this. you sound unhinged. like north korea. lol.
anybody who wants peace doesn't threaten people. i am also willing to bet you have never been through real violence. so, you are most likely entirely unable to focus and dominate in response to a physical threat. please stop this whole "gates of hell" ridiculousness.
the only reason i live here is because i love it. unless idiots like you keep spouting off about revenge and treason and blah blah blah. people like you will cause problems you can't even imagine.
ebcrew
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This is self defense but Kyle Rittenhouse is a murderer right?