This isn't over.
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MickFoster
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As the divider in chief continues losing.......our new President keeps winning.
Biden's lead has surpassed 7 million votes.
That's a lot of illegal votes.
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Biden's lead has surpassed 7 million votes.
That's a lot of illegal votes.
Biden's popular vote margin over Trump tops 7 million
President-elect Joe Biden's margin over President Donald Trump in the nationwide popular vote is now more than 7 million votes and may continue to grow as several states continue counting votes. Biden's lead over Trump is the second largest since 2000, and is about two and a half times larger...
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Unclebaldrick
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I'm not optimistic in the aftermath of this whole thing. I strongly suspect that most of us will outlive democracy in America.
captainmorgan
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Fogdog
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Prediction is difficult - particularly when it involves the future.
Unclebaldrick
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It was fun while it lasted.
she reminds me of my last roommate. i live alone now. i'm going with benzos. i like her hair.
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he's a thief and loves the con. it's a sickness seeing nothing wrong with the shit he does. it must be removed permanent; it's the only way.
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DIY-HP-LED
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I don't think you've seen the reaction to Trump and covid unpack yet, that will take time. There are 75 million racist moral failures in America and that is the problem right now and they must be defeated at the polls in the coming years. Patriots must be proactive and aggressive in the pursuit of liberty and justice, go after the disinformation system that drives this bullshit and holds these idiots together in common purpose, then pursue every possible criminal charge against them. Patriots have to learn that while these people might also be citizens, they are enemies of the constitution and therefore enemies of patriots. In the civil war brother fought against brother, is it any different now, except for the guns, and they are willing to use them to tear down America. It's not just Trump either, it's the entire republican party and anybody who supports this utter bullshit.
You either have a grasp on reality or you don't, there is not much choice for those who can maintain an objective point of view. Both sides are not the same and it won't be politics as usual until you have civilized opponents, much less ones dedicated to making the country work. No enemy can keep America down like it's internal ones, the "nice" people who support Trump and what he stands for. Some will have to be convinced and some will have to be destroyed, country first, them a distant second, they stand for nothing but hate and stupidity. You must destroy them or they will destroy you, it's a binary choice now, Trump made it that way. They have awakened a sleeping giant, that giant is about to rise up and crush them in the coming years, patriots have yet to fight and the most viscous will be the former republicans in the federal law enforcement and intelligence communities, those who felt betrayed the most.
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DIY-HP-LED
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Patriots will want to obtain a copy of that letter and use it in the coming elections and undermine to moral of republicans, though to undermine moral, they must first have morals and stand for something other than selfishness and hate. It can none the less be used to drive the votes of patriots.
Trump is near dead now and when he dies on Jan20th, the corpse will begin to rot and putrefy, as time goes by the stink of Trump's corpse will only increase. In the coming months and years the stench will be overpowering and it should be, breathe it in deeply, so you don't forget the smell. Forgetting Trump and moving on is a mistake, too high a price was paid for the lesson to ever forget, memory motivates too. Two more years of even more intense battle are required at a minimum, forget going back to normal, the only normal will be the new normal, Joe's is just bringing stability, the landscape has been altered permanently.
The country is not broken, it is in the process of being fixed, renovations are messy and inconvenient, but the war on these people and what they stand for must intensify and be relentless, win or die, the classic binary choice.
Fogdog
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Why are we not yet done with the institution of the Electoral College?
DIY-HP-LED
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America needs new grifting laws, serious penalties for what the likes of trump and their allies do, things that are wrong, but legal. No constitutional changes or violations here, just the skillful application of law. It's like anti terrorism laws, it depends on how you write them, you can have two categories, one for "domestic terrorism" (jus some good ole boys have'n a bit of "fun"), or Islamic terrorists, when in fact there is no difference between them. You can have one sentence for cocaine and another hasher one for crack, because it helps "get" the people you don't like.
This is how they do politics, they call it politics, but it's social warfare, politics is about policy and honest policy is about making the country a better place. America has a tradition, born in the south, of using the law and power to conduct genocidal social warfare on minority populations for nothing more than shits and giggles.
This is how they do politics, they call it politics, but it's social warfare, politics is about policy and honest policy is about making the country a better place. America has a tradition, born in the south, of using the law and power to conduct genocidal social warfare on minority populations for nothing more than shits and giggles.
smokin away
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We are just so appeased with the simplest facts. The problem is that's where he's planning to control the world. It would be safer if he just stayed there.
I wanted to get back on your question of a Libertarian Country. I found one and the President said they are going to open more Countries soon. We must see the folly of just bickering back and forth with no solution
Free Republic of Liberland
Free Republic of Liberland is a sovereign state located between Croatia and Serbia. It is a 7 km² land referred to as “Gornja Siga”. The founder and elected head of state is President Vit Jedlicka. Liberland is a constitutional republic with elements of direct democracy. The state has two Vice...
topcat
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Do you also like that nasally voice and sophomoric attitude?
Fogdog
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lulzWe are just so appeased with the simplest facts. The problem is that's where he's planning to control the world. It would be safer if he just stayed there.
I wanted to get back on your question of a Libertarian Country. I found one and the President said they are going to open more Countries soon. We must see the folly of just bickering back and forth with no solution
Free Republic of Liberland
Free Republic of Liberland is a sovereign state located between Croatia and Serbia. It is a 7 km² land referred to as “Gornja Siga”. The founder and elected head of state is President Vit Jedlicka. Liberland is a constitutional republic with elements of direct democracy. The state has two Vice...liberland.org
Trump must have had a scary session:
Regarding your endlessly boring promotion of libertarianism, which is a fabrication by Republicans to draw in people who otherwise cannot stand them:
I asked for a practical example. Yeah, so the US should completely convert over to a hypothetical economic philosophy because a "country" that is slightly larger than a football field says they are..
I'm pretty sure you are just having fun and that's OK. I laughed too.
I'll repeat my request:
that would be "practical working example", not some artificial one.
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DIY-HP-LED
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I wonder where these people are going to get jobs, most of their future employees will suffer for it. People will be making lists, organizing and tracking these people for years to come, for some this is gonna be a lifetime thing and many are young people. You are gonna find an awful lot of nasty democrats in the coming years and the worst and most viscous will be former republicans who consider themselves to be patriots. This war has just begun, this is just the end of the beginning, but it will be a good fight for a good cause.
What else do you have to do with your life that will give it any meaning? Your children? What future will they have? You gonna fight for good or fight for evil, or perhaps just be an amoral spectator, who knows neither right or wrong, or even the difference between the two. If you say you don't care, covid or reality will catch up to you anyway. There is no neutral here, your country cannot be frozen in time while the world moves on, or the rest of the world will own you and your country, as you go on the international auction block and your assets disappear, the trillionaires will take their fortunes and move out of the country and give up their worthless citizenship. The top ten percent of the country will leave with 80% of the national wealth and America will be a "shithole" country, they love money more than their county, it's not even close for most. They will still live in America mostly, but will be citizens of a Bahamian tax haven and still control what's left of America.
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White House exodus begins even as Trump continues to baselessly claim victory - CNNPolitics
White House exodus begins even as Trump continues to baselessly claim victory
(CNN)White House staffers at all levels are plotting their departures as a growing number of aides to President Donald Trump are abandoning his quest to overturn the 2020 election results -- some in frustration with the building they are leaving behind.
Multiple sources inside and outside the White House cited a variety of reasons for the exodus already underway, ranging from the urgent need for employment to a palpable disgust with Trump's ill-fated election challenges.
One source familiar with the situation said Trump's refusal to accept defeat has unnerved some staffers who worry the President is tarnishing his own legacy and, more critically, eroding voters' faith in US elections. Others have said they understood the odds were high that they'd need to find new jobs soon, and they prepared to make career moves regardless of how the President reacted to defeat.
A separate senior administration official described a "toxic" work environment among the dwindling number of West Wing staffers. While the Trump White House was never the model of a functional workplace, the lack of direction and sense of defeat during Trump's lame duck period has sharpened divides among staffers facing the prospect of potential unemployment.
"I think people are moving on because they have families or livelihoods to support," the official said.
"That, and the place is becoming more toxic by the day ... people turning on each other, trying to settle scores while they can," the official added.
The White House did not immediately respond to a CNN request for comment.
White House communications director Alyssa Farah, a close ally of chief of staff Mark Meadows, announced Thursday that she would step down from her position. Her departure was seen by people close to the White House as a signal that leaving the administration is no longer viewed a betrayal of the President.
"A great person who did a fantastic job. Thank you, Alyssa!" Trump tweeted on Friday.
One White House adviser, who is in the process of interviewing some departing administration staffers, said there is a growing acceptance that there will not be a second Trump administration, at least not beginning on January 20, 2021.
"Some are moving on," the White House adviser said. "It's time."
The adviser said it is understandable that aides have become irritated with Trump's stubbornness. But the adviser noted they signed on to work for Trump.
"No one expects him to concede. No one!" the adviser said.
Mass staff exits from administrations occur at the end of every presidency, whether that comes after two terms or at the end of one that is cut short by an election loss. But Trump's refusal to concede the race and acknowledge the coming change has forced top staffers -- some of them longtime loyalists -- into a deeply uncomfortable position with just weeks to go before their paychecks stop arriving.
After John McEntee, head of the White House Office of Presidential Personnel, issued a warning to administration staffers that any caught looking for a job could be fired -- a warning that leaked to the press and was widely reported last month -- many political aides across the federal government continued to search for their next move unfazed.
But some younger, more junior appointees were indeed spooked by the warning -- a situation some more senior aides found regrettable given the additional difficulty those staffers may have finding work.
One senior administration official described the current scramble for Capitol Hill jobs among Trump administration aides as a game of "musical chairs," noting the "music" will essentially stop in January and many aides will be left without a "chair" after the limited number of open positions are filled heading into the new Congress. Republicans gained 13 seats in the House but flipped only one Senate seat; they lost two GOP Senate spots and could potentially lose two more depending on the outcome of the Georgia runoffs.
Beyond Capitol Hill, some aides are considering private sector or think tank jobs -- in some cases competing against their colleagues for the same openings.
While many White House and administration officials quietly began their job hunt in the days after the election without sharing their plans in the office, many are openly discussing their prospects now and leaving when they land somewhere -- even though Trump's refusal to acknowledge the looming end of his presidency remains unchanged from early November.
What else do you have to do with your life that will give it any meaning? Your children? What future will they have? You gonna fight for good or fight for evil, or perhaps just be an amoral spectator, who knows neither right or wrong, or even the difference between the two. If you say you don't care, covid or reality will catch up to you anyway. There is no neutral here, your country cannot be frozen in time while the world moves on, or the rest of the world will own you and your country, as you go on the international auction block and your assets disappear, the trillionaires will take their fortunes and move out of the country and give up their worthless citizenship. The top ten percent of the country will leave with 80% of the national wealth and America will be a "shithole" country, they love money more than their county, it's not even close for most. They will still live in America mostly, but will be citizens of a Bahamian tax haven and still control what's left of America.
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White House exodus begins even as Trump continues to baselessly claim victory - CNNPolitics
White House exodus begins even as Trump continues to baselessly claim victory
(CNN)White House staffers at all levels are plotting their departures as a growing number of aides to President Donald Trump are abandoning his quest to overturn the 2020 election results -- some in frustration with the building they are leaving behind.
Multiple sources inside and outside the White House cited a variety of reasons for the exodus already underway, ranging from the urgent need for employment to a palpable disgust with Trump's ill-fated election challenges.
One source familiar with the situation said Trump's refusal to accept defeat has unnerved some staffers who worry the President is tarnishing his own legacy and, more critically, eroding voters' faith in US elections. Others have said they understood the odds were high that they'd need to find new jobs soon, and they prepared to make career moves regardless of how the President reacted to defeat.
A separate senior administration official described a "toxic" work environment among the dwindling number of West Wing staffers. While the Trump White House was never the model of a functional workplace, the lack of direction and sense of defeat during Trump's lame duck period has sharpened divides among staffers facing the prospect of potential unemployment.
"I think people are moving on because they have families or livelihoods to support," the official said.
"That, and the place is becoming more toxic by the day ... people turning on each other, trying to settle scores while they can," the official added.
The White House did not immediately respond to a CNN request for comment.
White House communications director Alyssa Farah, a close ally of chief of staff Mark Meadows, announced Thursday that she would step down from her position. Her departure was seen by people close to the White House as a signal that leaving the administration is no longer viewed a betrayal of the President.
"A great person who did a fantastic job. Thank you, Alyssa!" Trump tweeted on Friday.
One White House adviser, who is in the process of interviewing some departing administration staffers, said there is a growing acceptance that there will not be a second Trump administration, at least not beginning on January 20, 2021.
"Some are moving on," the White House adviser said. "It's time."
The adviser said it is understandable that aides have become irritated with Trump's stubbornness. But the adviser noted they signed on to work for Trump.
"No one expects him to concede. No one!" the adviser said.
Mass staff exits from administrations occur at the end of every presidency, whether that comes after two terms or at the end of one that is cut short by an election loss. But Trump's refusal to concede the race and acknowledge the coming change has forced top staffers -- some of them longtime loyalists -- into a deeply uncomfortable position with just weeks to go before their paychecks stop arriving.
After John McEntee, head of the White House Office of Presidential Personnel, issued a warning to administration staffers that any caught looking for a job could be fired -- a warning that leaked to the press and was widely reported last month -- many political aides across the federal government continued to search for their next move unfazed.
But some younger, more junior appointees were indeed spooked by the warning -- a situation some more senior aides found regrettable given the additional difficulty those staffers may have finding work.
One senior administration official described the current scramble for Capitol Hill jobs among Trump administration aides as a game of "musical chairs," noting the "music" will essentially stop in January and many aides will be left without a "chair" after the limited number of open positions are filled heading into the new Congress. Republicans gained 13 seats in the House but flipped only one Senate seat; they lost two GOP Senate spots and could potentially lose two more depending on the outcome of the Georgia runoffs.
Beyond Capitol Hill, some aides are considering private sector or think tank jobs -- in some cases competing against their colleagues for the same openings.
While many White House and administration officials quietly began their job hunt in the days after the election without sharing their plans in the office, many are openly discussing their prospects now and leaving when they land somewhere -- even though Trump's refusal to acknowledge the looming end of his presidency remains unchanged from early November.
DIY-HP-LED
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It's the top 10% who are most a risk with a polarized country, the compromises that allowed them to remain untaxed is over. The racists are no longer poisoning both parties, the poison has now been concentrated into one party and the results are apparent. The republicans were a proto racists organization before Obama, he concentrated the racists in America into the republican party and Trump drove any decent people out of the party. The republicans have become a fascist organization driven by a fanatical racist base, there is no going back from that, these people and the party must die off or be slowly whittled away, as younger members evolve and those for whom racism drives everything die away or fade into irrelevance.
The core issues in America are racism, bigotry and income distribution, 50% of the country, exists on 6% of the wealth and the top 10% have 80% of the wealth that technology is concentrating even more daily. Trump's voters are uneducated and getting screwed by the system, they know something is wrong and are feed lies as to the causes, exacerbating their preexisting biases as they become more and more economically stressed. This is not socialism, it is common sense, economies are ecosystems and this ecosystem is out of balance, not just in America, the situation is not much better in Canada. America (and Canada) needs a new, new deal, cause you've been getting a raw deal, poor people are being taxed at a much higher rate than multi billionaires.
The core issues in America are racism, bigotry and income distribution, 50% of the country, exists on 6% of the wealth and the top 10% have 80% of the wealth that technology is concentrating even more daily. Trump's voters are uneducated and getting screwed by the system, they know something is wrong and are feed lies as to the causes, exacerbating their preexisting biases as they become more and more economically stressed. This is not socialism, it is common sense, economies are ecosystems and this ecosystem is out of balance, not just in America, the situation is not much better in Canada. America (and Canada) needs a new, new deal, cause you've been getting a raw deal, poor people are being taxed at a much higher rate than multi billionaires.
