Unclebaldrick
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It isn't Trump I am worried about. I don't believe he will play a part in what I fear much more than he already has. The country is in an epistemological crisis and I fear that it will get worse.
This isn't over.
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that's the roommate part, so no..i live alone.
DIY-HP-LED
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Yeah strong biases are turning into beliefs on both sides, on one side it leads to violence on, the other it leads to persistent consistent action. Sure you will see terrorism and violence, people become angry when they are holding life's stick by the shit end. You won't and can't compromise with these people, to do so would mean selling someone down the river, perhaps yourself. Most are misguided, but many are evil, their minds poisoned by parents, local culture and right wing media confirming their biases and radicalizing them. They are being told that they live among enemies, they are now, of their own creation, they made many more when they tried to destroy the constitution by supporting someone who they knew would. That was the point, to cut through "red tape", regulation, law and the constitution, you can't "get" these people inside the constitution these days like in the past, you must go outside the rule of law, to them this is war.
I speak some of the same language, but because liberals in America have had war made upon them for a number of years now. Since Trump that war has become overt and since the election obvious to anybody with eyes, they support the destruction of the constitution. One man rule, with no rules, just the power to get and destroy those they fear. This is what an unchecked first amendment looks like in the age of mass media, this is what it looked like in the past, before the government regulated it out of existence.
Father Coughlin, this one was from Canada, but made it big in America, Catholic antisemitism was his thing, as he went from religion to demagoguery.
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Charles E. Coughlin
Charles Coughlin, Catholic priest and populist leader, promoted antisemitic and pro-fascist views. In the 1930s, he was one of the most influential public figures in the US.
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the thing that's really going to suck for him is his Secret Service detail assigned to him for life..they're there to keep him alive no checking out early like Jeffrey Epstein.
as the math told us it would be back in April..while we all sat home, he did everything in his power to shank the blue states best he could. in his self absorbedness and true to tradition of not planning anything, he didn't consider what would happen when the hoax and 'but boy if you're the right person', went red.
just wish it away.
remember when texas got a whole stadium of people to pray for rain?
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captainmorgan
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It's looking like the origin of a lot of this current fuckery is Nixon and Reagan. Not only is Barr front and center but it turns out Rudy is also tied back to these same crooks. Turns out Rudy got a job at the justice department at the start of the Reagan admin and one of the very first things he's involved with is foreign election interference, the CIA and the Russian mob, gee that's strange.
topcat
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ohmygaw, I just discovered I'm bipolarity.
smokinrav
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Preemptive pardons CAN be done. Ford pardoned Nixon before charges were brought. Pardons don't work for state charges tho. Looking at you SDNY.
captainmorgan
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Some of the most recognized names in todays fuckery like Barr,Rudy and Dershowitz have interesting history. In the past they were involved in things like Nixons mess, Reagan election interference, Iran-Contra, Jonathon Pollard, Epstein, the Russian mob and Israeli intelligence. I'm sure that this is all just a coincidence.
TacoMac
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SDNY is a federal entity.
You should be looking at the District Attorney of New York. She's the one that will wind up burying Trump in court over income tax evasion, falsifying loan documents and money laundering.
TacoMac
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Yep. It's the same people doing the same crap just using a different vehicle to do it.
DIY-HP-LED
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The pardon can only be applied to the past not the future, only up to the date on the pardon. They can't indict anybody who is pardoned for the crime, but they can be called to testify and since they cannot incriminate themselves they have to answer or be held in contempt and jailed until they do or be imprisoned for perjury if they lie. That's what makes them so incredibly dangerous to those they were in criminals conspiracies with, those Trump forgot to pardon.
Trump can't pardon himself and the SDNY will indict individual #1 very quickly, if they delay, people will want to know why.
Herb & Suds
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DIY-HP-LED
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The trial judge can set the pardon aside and let Trump appeal it right up to the SCOTUS, pardons can be contested, there is nothing unconstitutional about trying for legitimate reasons. The FBI or a grand jury can take the pardon at face value and clean Trump out, since he can't supposedly incriminate himself, at least until they get around to challenging it for something else, like individual #1. Pardon's are a Trap for people like Trump and his kids, while they are doing state time, they can be completely cleaned out by grand juries, putting hundreds or even thousands of others under legal jeopardy. There is another kind of jeopardy too, assassination by a foreign power that wants to avoid trouble or lawsuits and Jared might have a target on his back for instance. We'll see, the future might not go as they think, many legal experts are largely silent on these aspects of pardons on TV and perhaps for a reason. Trump's own legal counsel must have warned him repeatedly about the dangers of pardoning associates and potential witnesses, but remember, he does not listen to wise counsel, he never has and is technically a moron.
captainmorgan
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The Washington Post surveyed 249 Republicans on capital hill, only 25 say that Biden won, if the courts side with tRUmp somehow the GOP will gladly go along with stealing the election.
hanimmal
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DIY-HP-LED
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Georgia and fear of Trump, they would end up dead or in prison, if they tried such a thing at this point in time. There would be civil war and it is very clear the military will intervene on Biden's side. I dunno if you have the death penalty for sedition, but long sentences would apply and if you are gonna frog march these cocksuckers out of the congress, you might as well turf the Trump appointed SCOTUS justices, the rest will just have to live with it in the aftermath of a broken constitution.
topcat
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Like Al Capone, tax evasion is serious stuff, accessory to mass murder, not so much.