In the Aftermath of Trump's election loss.

Fogdog

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I wonder if someone can address this for me.

Is making death threats not a crime in the USA? Why do we read about every single person who doesn't loyally support Trump receiving death threats, yet never, ever do we read about arrests regarding these threats? Hell, I've never even seen investigations mentioned.

Are these death threats not textbook examples of terrorism?

US law enforcement can spy on and track nearly every person in the world, but they can't catch any of these terrorists, most of whom were presumably stupid enough to download Trump's spyware app?
It's been a tool that Trump has used since the begin of his run at taking power. Megyn Kelly, for example.

“Every time he tweeted about me, it was like he flipped a switch, instantly causing a flood of intense nastiness,” writes Kelly, who then goes on to provide highlights. “F--- off you sl--, I will beat you up so bad I will force you to support trump you sl--,” reads one of the many. Death threats and security guards became part of Kelly’s life.

From what I've seen inside of Portland's protests against Trump and his goons, law enforcement sides with him. I've seen too many instances where Portland's finest let one of his goons slide and beat the hell out of the goon's victim.

sometimes I read about a person getting caught out making those threats. It's never front page news.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I wonder if someone can address this for me.

Is making death threats not a crime in the USA? Why do we read about every single person who doesn't loyally support Trump receiving death threats, yet never, ever do we read about arrests regarding these threats? Hell, I've never even seen investigations mentioned.

Are these death threats not textbook examples of terrorism?

US law enforcement can spy on and track nearly every person in the world, but they can't catch any of these terrorists, most of whom were presumably stupid enough to download Trump's spyware app?
It's called stochastic terrorism, Donald drops the name in public, hint hint and the phone calls, text messages and emails come rolling in as the loonies are sparked off. Many of these threats can be tracked, even from burner phones, they can take your pic and ask for Id upon purchase. They can use voice prints to identify suspects and robots to call people on a list automatically looking for matches, text messages are more difficult. If most people use the internet they can be traced, unless they are using some else's wireless account. Many you simply cannot catch, but 90% of these threats are probably coming from relatively few people using multiple platforms and if you nail them on one, you stop the rest.

I'm sure this little item is gonna be addressed by Joe's administration, it has become a political issue and weapon now.
 

CunningCanuk

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He collapsed mowing the lawn. The Kentucky Bluegrass crossed with Northern California Sinsimilla did it. Cannonball it, cannonball comin'.
That was a great scene. Watching that it’s hard to believe Chevy Chase and Bill Murray hated each other’s guts.

There’s a really good documentary on the making of Caddy Shack. Most of the cast and crew were coked up throughout the filming.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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That was a great scene. Watching that it’s hard to believe Chevy Chase and Bill Murray hated each other’s guts.

There’s a really good documentary on the making of Caddy Shack. Most of the cast and crew were coked up throughout the filming.
I was surprised by Bill's performance in the The Razor's Edge, comedy is harder than drama though.

 

DIY-HP-LED

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That was a great scene. Watching that it’s hard to believe Chevy Chase and Bill Murray hated each other’s guts.

There’s a really good documentary on the making of Caddy Shack. Most of the cast and crew were coked up throughout the filming.
Bill gets enlightened
 

anomalii

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I hate 45 and his whole GOP gestapo with all my soul. But since @topcat is missing the antagonists I thought I would try my hand at stepping into their role....


Lights, camera, ......






Trump 2020!,!!!,,!! MAKING AMERICA GRATE AGAIN. YOU CRYBABY SNOWFLAKES COULDNT STAND TRUMP WINNING AGAIN SOMYOU HAD TO STEELE THE VOTE. WE WILL PREVALE ONCE ALL THE LEGAL VOTES ARE COUNTED. RUDY HAS BINDERS FULL OF EVIDENCE HE WILL PRESENT SOON AND THEN HILLARY WILL GO TO JAIL. OBAMA KEEPS VENUZUALEN CHILDREN IN HIS BASEMENT FOR HUMAN TRAFFIKING.




....Aaaaaand scene!



I feel gross now. Better go take a shower now.
#FuckTrumpAndFuckYouForVotingForHim
 

topcat

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I hate 45 and his whole GOP gestapo with all my soul. But since @topcat is missing the antagonists I thought I would try my hand at stepping into their role....


Lights, camera, ......






Trump 2020!,!!!,,!! MAKING AMERICA GRATE AGAIN. YOU CRYBABY SNOWFLAKES COULDNT STAND TRUMP WINNING AGAIN SOMYOU HAD TO STEELE THE VOTE. WE WILL PREVALE ONCE ALL THE LEGAL VOTES ARE COUNTED. RUDY HAS BINDERS FULL OF EVIDENCE HE WILL PRESENT SOON AND THEN HILLARY WILL GO TO JAIL. OBAMA KEEPS VENUZUALEN CHILDREN IN HIS BASEMENT FOR HUMAN TRAFFIKING.




....Aaaaaand scene!



I feel gross now. Better go take a shower now.
#FuckTrumpAndFuckYouForVotingForHim
It's a dirty bidness.
Edit: I do miss them. Thanks for filling in.
 
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hanimmal

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/israeli-prime-minister-visits-saudi-arabia-meets-with-crown-prince-and-pompeo-say-local-media/2020/11/23/63f3cab4-2d5f-11eb-9dd6-2d0179981719_story.html
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JERUSALEM — Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu reportedly made a secret trip to Saudi Arabia on Sunday, a visit that would mark a significant shift in the historically hostile relations between the Jewish state and the Arab power that is home to Islam's holiest sites.

The prime minister’s office did not immediately respond to requests for comment on the visit, which was first reported by local media outlets in Israel. Education Minister Yoav Gallant, a member of Netanyahu’s Likud party, appeared to confirm the trip in a radio interview Monday.

“This is something our ancestors dreamed of,” Gallant said. “The main thing is the warm acceptance of Israel by the Sunni world, the lowering of the whole hostile process.”

Prince Faisal bin Farhan al-Saud, the foreign minister, however, denied that the meeting took place, maintaining that “the only officials present were American and Saudi” during the recent visit by Secretary of State Mike Pompeo.

The brief trip would represent the first acknowledged visit by an Israeli official to Saudi Arabia and comes amid a flurry of diplomatic breakthroughs between Israel and its Arab neighbors. It also reportedly occurred as tensions with Iran, considered a common enemy of both countries, are on the rise.

Saudi media soften tone on normalization, offering clue to kingdom’s thinking on Israel

According to the Israeli publication Ynet, Netanyahu spent only a few hours late Sunday in the Saudi coastal city of Neom, where he met with Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman and Pompeo. Netanyahu reportedly traveled with Yossi Cohen, the head of Mossad, Israel’s spy agency, a point person in emerging efforts to broker diplomatic relations with the kingdom.

In August, Israel and the United Arab Emirates reached an agreement to establish formal relations and open up trade, security and tourism ties. Bahrain and Sudan followed suit, marking a collapse of long-standing Arab unity that resisted making such negotiations with Israel as long as the country continued to occupy the West Bank. Palestinian leaders have condemned the Arab deals as a betrayal.

But in recent weeks, speculation has risen in Israel that Riyadh and Jerusalem are close to a similar agreement. Cohen reportedly told associates in October that the Saudis were ready to decide on an arrangement with Israel once the U.S. presidential election was concluded.

Israel has long maintained semi-secret security contacts with Saudi Arabia, as it had with the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain.

The Saudi foreign minister signaled Saturday during the Group of 20 Summit in Riyadh that his country was open to forging official ties with Israel, but not unconditionally.

Saudi Arabia has “supported normalization with Israel for a long time, but one very important thing must happen first: a permanent and full peace deal between Israelis and Palestinians,” Prince Faisal said in an interview with Reuters.

Mohammed is close to President Trump and Jared Kushner, his son-in-law and adviser. With Trump’s reelection defeat, anxiety has risen in both Saudi Arabia and Israel that President-elect Joe Biden will reverse Trump’s hard-line policies against Iran and seek to revise Washington’s participation in the Iran nuclear deal negotiated during the Obama administration and still recognized by European and other allies.

The timing of Netanyahu’s reported trip suggested to some analysts that the two countries wanted to present a united position to Biden’s incoming foreign policy team before his inauguration on Jan. 20.

“I think the main thing is that both sides want to get ready for January and to project and align an Israeli-Arab front that is ready for engagement with Iran,” said Shimrit Meir, a Middle East analyst for the Israeli daily Yedioth Ahronot.

The Saudi foreign minister said Saturday that Riyadh was ready to cooperate with the incoming administration. But speculation that the Trump administration was preparing for military action against Iran nuclear capacities in its waning days has been rising.
Some considered Netanyahu’s apparent visit to the kingdom and the presence of Pompeo as further evidence that a strike was possible.

Palestinian officials made no immediate comment. But an Arab-Israeli member of the Knesset accused all three governments of seeking to foment conflict in the region.

“Netanyahu, Trump and [bin] Salman are trying to set fire to the area and put sticks in the wheels of a return to the nuclear deal,” tweeted Aida Touma-Sliman, a member of the Arab Hadash party. “They could degenerate the entire region into escalation and war.”

Pompeo, on what may be his final official trip through the Middle East as secretary of state, was in Saudi Arabia following a three-day visit to Israel in which he sought to cement Trump’s legacy of tilting U.S. policy toward one favored by Netanyahu’s government — much like Trump’s stance on Iran.

Pompeo became the first secretary of state to visit Israeli settlements in the West Bank and the Golan Heights and declared that Washington would view an international boycotts movement targeting Israel as anti-Semitic, among other shifts.

Secrecy surrounded Netanyahu’s movements Sunday. A scheduled meeting of the government’s cabinet-level coronavirus response committee was canceled. Flight tracking sites showed an unusual route of a plane flying directly from Tel Aviv to Neom on Sunday evening and returning early Monday, according to the Associated Press.

Other Israeli officials, including Defense Minister and Alternate Prime Minister Benny Gantz, were unaware of Netanyahu’s trip in advance, Ynet reported.

Israel’s Foreign Affairs Ministry declined to comment.

The lack of official denials was itself a notable change from the reaction to previous reports of clandestine meetings even in neutral countries. Those reports were kept under wraps or hotly denied to avoid embarrassing the Saudis.

The quiet response this time indicates that the tenor of relations has shifted significantly, even if a formal declaration of normal relations is not imminent.

“I think that this is already happening,” Meir said. “If the Israelis are saying, ‘We met with the Saudi crown prince’ and he’s not denying it, that’s normalization. You can call it whatever you want, but that’s normalization.”
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Bear420

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In the aftermath of trump’s election loss........Canada gets new territory that once belonged to Michigan.

I live right in the middle of the U.P. and this is the first I am hearing of this. and we were the only County in the U.P. that was Blue.

Hard to believe but, the orange one has people fooled.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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In the aftermath of trump’s election loss........Canada gets new territory that once belonged to Michigan.

I hear the CBC is a subversive and pernicious liberal influence across the border, if it wasn't for the internet these days I'm sure Trumps bunch would jam the socialist serpent of the north. They tried real hard to kill PBS & NPR, I'm surprised it is still around, anything that informs and makes people think is very bad, social engineering and such, you know socialism!
 

H G Griffin

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What a ludicrous system. The counters have certified the auditors who are hoping the counter-auditors don't sue the sub-counter-reverse-lawyers who are trying to keep the certifiers from certifying the under-audit-certification certificate.
Or something just as idiotic.

You can't imagine how foolish this looks to people outside your country. Most democracies vote, and then the winner governs. The USA fights over every single step of the process. Not just this time, everything seems to end up decided by judges rather than legislators in the US.

The next election is in two years, yes? For senators and dog catchers and assistant crossing guards? So the dust won't be settled from this one before your "leaders" start telling you again how everyone else is a lying communist pedophile while claiming to be trying to unite the country.

I can't understand why worthwhile legislation never passes. /s
There is so much back-scratching and quid-pro-quo just to accomplish the most basic legislation like funding the government, (seriously-WTF??) that they never even get close to addressing anything that could actually improve the country.

 
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