What has Trump done to this country?

Stone_Free

Stone_Free

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Forcing people to vote for one of two choices that they feel don't represent them is as bad as not allowing them to vote IMO.
One 'weapon' that voters have is to not take part in a system that they feel is unrepresentative. If 100% of voters voted all the time everyone would assume that the system is working just fine. When voter apathy sets in then politicians may start to question if the system is working as it should.

Having 2 parties with not much difference between them is the real issue.
In purely practical terms it is impossible to make everybody vote, even if you offer them tax incentives, you can't guarantee that they won't spoil their ballot paper.
 
Stone_Free

Stone_Free

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MickFoster said:
I don't think most people are mentally equipped to make an intelligent decision........I would prefer they don't vote.
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Many people aren't capable of critical thinking. It's easier for them to get their opinions from the biased media. People like Murdoch have way more influence than any individual voter. With so much money at stake for the politicians they have no interest in changing the system.

I think that if tens of millions of voters refused to take part in a rigged system then that system may change.
 
Stone_Free

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mysunnyboy said:
That and they don’t care. They go with the flash. The money.
It’s fantasy for those that are slightly paying attention.
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If voting ever changed anything in a significant way people wouldn't be allowed a vote. The system is an illusion. If any candidate comes along that offers something very different from the status quo that candidate is destroyed by the likes of Murdoch.
Until politicians change and truly become representatives of the voters not much is going to change. That means taking away the power of a few wealthy donors and I don't see that happening because most politicians are only in it for the money and power.
 
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schuylaar

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DIY-HP-LED said:
The only way to do it in America is to have a democratic participation incentive tax deduction and include the voting receipt ya get from the elections office with yer return. Mail in or in person if you return your ballot or show and vote you get an income tax deduction and perhaps even get your tax refund check, non participation means you donate it to Uncle Sam. It's not like non voters will have any say in what happens to them, they don't vote remember.
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yeah..a deduction means nothing to the person who's making $30k it's the younger and working poor we should capture.

my point is, if you're going to rely on this country for future services/programs, you need to participate...if i wish to drive i need a license; fish i need a license; service business i need a license; hunt license; gun license etc.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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:lol: :lol: :lol: Sacha Strikes Rudy and Donald a serious blow, where is Qnon? This is a classic example of the powerful taking advantage of the young, Qnon should be all over it, Rudy and Donald are leaders of the conspiracy! :lol:
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Sacha Baron Cohen responds to Rudy Giuliani’s claims about ‘Borat’ scene l GMA

Baron Cohen and Maria Bakalova, who plays his daughter in “Borat,” speak out on “GMA” about the movie’s headline-making scene featuring Giuliani.
 
hanimmal

hanimmal

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tehdansauce said:
Hunter only smokes crack, much better I do say
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As long as Joe puts someone extremely highly qualified (who is not his kids) in charge of running all the departments in the executive branch, nor have them spreading hate to families during the holidays, I could really care less what he does. If someone is doing something illegal in office, then it is too public to get away with it and they should pay the consequences.

But Trump is a liar. And got caught because he is stupid and announced his con.


That is what Trump is so afraid of and resorting to allowing a foreign military continue their attack on our democracy, he doesn't want to face the music for being an idiot and breaking our laws while running for/being in public office.

 
mysunnyboy

mysunnyboy

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hanimmal said:
As long as Joe puts someone extremely highly qualified (who is not his kids) in charge of running all the departments in the executive branch, nor have them spreading hate to families during the holidays, I could really care less what he does. If someone is doing something illegal in office, then it is too public to get away with it and they should pay the consequences.

But Trump is a liar. And got caught because he is stupid and announced his con.


That is what Trump is so afraid of and resorting to allowing a foreign military continue their attack on our democracy, he doesn't want to face the music for being an idiot and breaking our laws while running for/being in public office.

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And as long as they’re not spreading Covid.
wtf who cares what hunter does?
 
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