What has Trump done to this country?

Fogdog

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Lay low and wait for Joe, action on a national level is the solution and you will do what you must, it might include heavy fines and it might include detention camps, but it will be done.

As for the kids, it's sad and not much can be done, I think school is out of the question until target infection rates are achieved. Schools are open as normal here, in NS we have 4 active cases and one in ICU. Personally I live like a monk. My sister passed away the other day and we are having a quiet memorial service at the funeral home, just a few family. I wasn't there, but said my good bye's earlier, it was a place and time for children and grand children, covid restricted the visitors to 4 at a time. We feel lucky that we could be there with her, the restrictions on visitors were lifted just before she went into the hospital. She was at peace and ready, wanted it in fact, there was no tragedy, just an end to pain and a normal end to a life. Nobody gets out alive.
Sorry for your loss, DIY.
 

mysunnyboy

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Lay low and wait for Joe, action on a national level is the solution and you will do what you must, it might include heavy fines and it might include detention camps, but it will be done.

As for the kids, it's sad and not much can be done, I think school is out of the question until target infection rates are achieved. Schools are open as normal here, in NS we have 4 active cases and one in ICU. Personally I live like a monk. My sister passed away the other day and we are having a quiet memorial service at the funeral home, just a few family. I wasn't there, but said my good bye's earlier, it was a place and time for children and grand children, covid restricted the visitors to 4 at a time. We feel lucky that we could be there with her, the restrictions on visitors were lifted just before she went into the hospital. She was at peace and ready, wanted it in fact, there was no tragedy, just an end to pain and a normal end to a life. Nobody gets out alive.
I’m sorry
 

Budley Doright

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I was relating my personal experiences and observations, here in NS we are lucky to have so few cases and went for spells with zero cases. Here mask wearing is well over 90% where mandated and I'm in favor of large fines and even internment behind barbed wire! Where you are in Ont and in Que it's a different matter and might be here too this winter. Bars and indoor dining are a stupid idea and unnecessary temporarily. We might have a lethal winter ahead of us, but for now here in NS the plan appears to be holding and the people compliant.

In America any sensible leadership will do, we've seen what happens when there is not only none, but malicious intent and gross incompetence. Joe has a plan and if he has to intern people or authorize the states to do it, it will be done, this is similar to a war, an emergency situation, pull out all the stops, lead and govern.
I figured you were referring to Nova Scotia but didn’t clarify, keep in mind the state of the east coast is not indicative of the whole of Canada due to the smal and rural population, but I’m assuming you know that. I’m glad you guys are doing well ;).
Sorry for your loss!
 

Jimdamick

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I used to visit her daily with a coffee and a paper, then just a coffee when she couldn't hold the paper. She was in a lot of chronic pain from syringomyelia that started afflicting her in her late 40's. Her children suffer and grieve, I grieve, but don't suffer so much, my attitude is, I'm here to help. One of the reasons I doubled down on my practice many years ago was the suffering of grief.
There is absolutely nothing worse than watching someone you love suffering/melting away from a debilitating/deadly disease.
I really, really feel for you my brother, I've been there
Yin.... She is at peace
Yang..... She has left us
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I figured you were referring to Nova Scotia but didn’t clarify, keep in mind the state of the east coast is not indicative of the whole of Canada due to the smal and rural population, but I’m assuming you know that. I’m glad you guys are doing well ;).
Sorry for your loss!
Moncton is having an outbreak, some visitor from Ontario! Burst our Atlantic bubble. We peaked out at a thousand cases and had it down to zero for awhile. Governments too eager to open restaurants bars and schools, only those kids whose parents have to work and need the service should be going and only if rates are low. I see the opposition was asking about rapid testing awhile back and we will desperately need it. Spartan cube where are you?

I'm getting my flu shot too, flu and covid are not mutually exclusive and I don't need to freak out over the flu this winter.
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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I figured you were referring to Nova Scotia but didn’t clarify, keep in mind the state of the east coast is not indicative of the whole of Canada due to the smal and rural population, but I’m assuming you know that. I’m glad you guys are doing well ;).
Sorry for your loss!
You would figure that this many months into this shit we would be mass manufacturing test kits and reagents etc and selling the excess to the Americans. There are outbreaks all over Europe too, that is the only benchmark we can use these days, the American example ain't hard to beat.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I figured you were referring to Nova Scotia but didn’t clarify, keep in mind the state of the east coast is not indicative of the whole of Canada due to the smal and rural population, but I’m assuming you know that. I’m glad you guys are doing well ;).
Sorry for your loss!
One good thing Budley, if the infection rate keeps climbing to match the American one they can reopen the border! :D
 

Fogdog

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One good thing Budley, if the infection rate keeps climbing to match the American one they can reopen the border! :D
Don't trust our numbers. Our testing is haphazard.

We are on the rise too. Oregon is doing well compared to most of the country but we are seeing the predicted rise with changes in weather.

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DIY-HP-LED

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Don't trust our numbers. Our testing is haphazard.

We are on the rise too. Oregon is doing well compared to most of the country but we are seeing the predicted rise with changes in weather.

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The carrot and the stick, if they don't give a fuck for others, maybe they will care about the fine. This was from when we were trying to drive cases down back in April, if we have another out break it will apply to masks too.
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Facing steep fines, Nova Scotians with COVID-19 tickets are trickling into court

More than 700 COVID-19 tickets issued in Nova Scotia, many of them in April

The bulk of the more than 700 tickets issued in Nova Scotia under the Emergency Management Act and the Health Protection Act — the two laws used to govern COVID-19 offences in the province — were handed out in April, according to data from police agencies.

Infractions ranged from not properly self-isolating to walking in parks closed by emergency order. In many cases, fines were between roughly $700 and $1,000, although both acts stipulate they can be significantly higher.
 

Stone_Free

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Another poll that doesn't look good for Trump. Of course a poll means very little but they seem to keep showing Biden in front.


Worth noting that the 57-40 leaves 3% - I'm assuming they are undecided - which is a lot of votes.
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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Another poll that doesn't look good for Trump. Of course a poll means very little but they seem to keep showing Biden in front.


Worth noting that the 57-40 leaves 3% - I'm assuming they are undecided - which is a lot of votes.
That poll would cause the republicans to shit enough bricks to build Trump's wall!

This gives the latest polls and clearest polling information.

 

Fogdog

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Another poll that doesn't look good for Trump. Of course a poll means very little but they seem to keep showing Biden in front.


Worth noting that the 57-40 leaves 3% - I'm assuming they are undecided - which is a lot of votes.
It would be a beautiful thing to see a double digit loss handed to Trump with deep inroads made into formerly safe Republican states.
Ohio flipping to Biden was a preposterous idea a year ago. Now, it looks as if Texas, Iowa and Georgia (Georgia?), all formerly safe Republican states are up for grabs and his campaign will need to spend its dwindling resources to ensure they stay red.
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Confusion to our enemies!
 

Budley Doright

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Don't trust our numbers. Our testing is haphazard.

We are on the rise too. Oregon is doing well compared to most of the country but we are seeing the predicted rise with changes in weather.

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Don’t trust our numbers either :(. Our testing (in Ontario) is fucked. Most of the university students are not getting tested at all. My nephew spent 7.5 hrs in a line two weeks ago with his 5 year old, they had 2 porta potti’s for about 600 people with no washing facilities :(. Now it’s 2-3 days for a test here. It’s gonna get way worse :(.
 

Stone_Free

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That poll would cause the republicans to shit enough bricks to build Trump's wall!

This gives the latest polls and clearest polling information.

It would be a beautiful thing to see a double digit loss handed to Trump with deep inroads made into formerly safe Republican states.
Ohio flipping to Biden was a preposterous idea a year ago. Now, it looks as if Texas, Iowa and Georgia (Georgia?), all formerly safe Republican states are up for grabs and his campaign will need to spend its dwindling resources to ensure they stay red.
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Confusion to our enemies!
I honestly think Trump is going down. I just don't see him getting more votes than Biden. Once Trump loses he'll not be a free man for long. He'll be wearing a jumpsuit the same colour as his skin. Can't wait!
 

rkymtnman

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