Is this plant ready to flush?

getogrow

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I would, no matter what medium. I try to let my pH 'float' up and down a couple of points (ie. 0.1-0.3) every few feedings for maximum nutrient uptake. Soil is more forgiving, but in my humble opinion not an excuse to not configure the water going in properly. You can distort the pH buffer in soil by continuously pouring high (or low) pH water on it long enough.
Some recent info i stumbled upon explained that a healthy soil does the floating on its own. The soil food web/microbes/roots all do their thang together and actually "float" the ph up and down a few 1/10s for the exact reason we do it. More nute uptake. Ive always known good soil has a decent ph but i never knew it actually floated to compensate the different nutes. 3 decades in and still PLENTY to learn! i love plants !

(this post is not for or against ph,ing)
 

Doug Dawson

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Well it's been a couple weeks and the results are in. I was seeing around 10% to 15% amber trichomes so I chopped my first lady down. After reading all the responses I decided to not "flush" the plant as some call it. I appreciate everyone's advice and their taking the time to provide their advice. It was a fun experience growing my first plant and I have learned a ton of new things. The best thing I learned was that I have a much more to learn, it is going to be a great adventure.

I did a wet trim on the buds and they are now hanging in a dark room. I did a quick weigh after trimming and the numbers came in at 411 grams. I am really looking forward to seeing what that turns into. I am assuming with what I have read here and on other sites I could end up losing 75% to 80% during drying but hey, can't smoke wet bud. No matter how it turns out I just hope after curing I will have some great weed. The term "Home Grown", which once brought about thoughts of coughing and horrible tasting dirt weed, can become a much happier thought. Man how times have changed.

Thanks again to all who took the time. I may be popping back to ask for more advise as I am growing my second plant now and Early Miss just started to flower. Figure another couple months for her but she is much larger than my first plant. I am not sure it is just the plants strain or the fact that I moved from the 3 gallon fabric pot up to a 5 gallon fabric pot for this one but I am enjoying watching it grow. Have a fantastic weekend everyone, time to go RIU.
 

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KingQuazy

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"final flush" is one of the many myths in Cannabis growing perpetuated by broscientists. It makes no sense at all and there is no good evidence that it does anything but stunt your plants growth. Just keep providing ideal conditions and keep them as healthy as possible until you chop.
"final flush" might be a myth.. but anybody who gives nutes to their plants within the last two weeks of flowering should just go fuck themselves and swallow a spoonful of miracle gro.
 

Doug Dawson

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"final flush" might be a myth.. but anybody who gives nutes to their plants within the last two weeks of flowering should just go fuck themselves and swallow a spoonful of miracle gro.
Ok, you seem pretty pationate about your position, I apprecte you taking the time to reply. So when saying not to give your plants nutes within the last two weeks of flowering are you speaking of soil, coco or full hydro? I was under the impression that the last 2 weeks of flowering is when the plants put on the most weight so I am curious about the merits of completly removing nutrrients during this period? In soil there would be nutrients retained in the medium but not so much in coco and none in full hydro if you changed your water and didn't include any nutes?
 

KingQuazy

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Ok, you seem pretty pationate about your position, I apprecte you taking the time to reply. So when saying not to give your plants nutes within the last two weeks of flowering are you speaking of soil, coco or full hydro? I was under the impression that the last 2 weeks of flowering is when the plants put on the most weight so I am curious about the merits of completly removing nutrrients during this period? In soil there would be nutrients retained in the medium but not so much in coco and none in full hydro if you changed your water and didn't include any nutes?
You're right lol Coco and Hydro gonna need stuff lol
 

bk78

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Except I'm in organic amended soil. You don't use nutes........ lmaooooooo Nice try though loser lmaooooooo Now show everybody a pic of your bomb cannabis compared to mine............ Rumple Larf Sticks lol
Your shit has little to no trichs and looks 3/4 dead with a couple weeks to go.

great job noob, maybe try an extra amendment next run.
 

KingQuazy

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Your shit has little to no trichs and looks 3/4 dead with a couple weeks to go.

great job noob, maybe try an extra amendment next run.
bro where is there death? There are literally 3 tips that are yellow because I went Molasses happy. YOU can't even barely see them. The fact that you think a finishing plant should be green says all anybody needs to know. And again, these ended up being beasters seeds lmao You never in your life saw beasters like this. You just wait til the flavors are done clown. Like I said, you may as well block me now.
 

KingQuazy

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Ask yourself this, what is the difference between a nutrient in a bottle and one in soil?
Well that all depends on whether the bottle has the "nutrients" in an amino chelated and natural form.. or if they're metallic SALTS. Seeing as how I'm in Organic soil and am using AMENDMENTS... the difference is huge. Were talking Rock Dust and Animal Juice compared to salts. Literal salts that build up and destroy not only the microbial life in your soil(which is actually what gardeners FEED, not plants unless it's foliar......) but the very plant that they are supposed to be providing "nutrition" to. As compared to a well balanced and perfectly amended soil which provides the optimum nutrition for said plants.

Now ask yourself this... How did your question contribute to the dialogue between him and I? And also, ask yourself, what purpose did you have in asking?
 
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bk78

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Well that all depends on whether the bottle has the "nutrients" in an amino chelated and natural form.. or if they're metallic SALTS. Seeing as how I'm in Organic soil and am using AMENDMENTS... the difference is huge. Were talking Rock Dust and Animal Juice compared to salts. Literal salts that build up and destroy not only the microbial life in your soil(which is actually what gardeners FEED, not plants unless it's foliar......) but the very plant that they are supposed to be providing "nutrition" to. As compared to a well balanced and perfectly amended soil which provides the optimum nutrition for said plants.

Now ask yourself this... How did your question contribute to the dialogue between him and I? And also, ask yourself, what purpose did you have in asking?
Now ask yourself this, why would you harvest a unripe plant?
 

KingQuazy

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Now ask yourself this, why would you harvest a unripe plant?
Now ask yourself, what kind of life you lived and what kind of person you are to sit around on riu all day long with multiple profiles, literally acting like a snob. Go through your history dude. Those plants you have do NOT backup all your trash talking you do. Your lights are a million miles away from your plants man. You really do SUCK and because you arent occupying your time by properly growing, you have plenty of tine to TROLL.

Now like i said, my plants arent harvested yet, save for number 11 whom I pushed through a month early for smoke, and realized these are beasters. Also one bud off of number 12. Now... Regardless of how much of a retarded troll you think you are, she's ready and I'm patiently waiting a few days extra to make her heavier.

The fact that youre trying to say a plant isnt ready without a closeup of the trich heads says even more about how awful a grower you are.

It must suck to spend all that money on a grow room and a ridiculously oversized led and not even know wtf youre doing with it.

You really want to see whos right here? I fucking DARE YOU to make a post and put the pic of my bud next to yours and ask everybody for their opinion. You wont because deep down inside, you know you got smoked already. By a "newb" with fucking beasters at that.
 

bk78

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Now ask yourself, what kind of life you lived and what kind of person you are to sit around on riu all day long with multiple profiles, literally acting like a snob. Go through your history dude. Those plants you have do NOT backup all your trash talking you do. Your lights are a million miles away from your plants man. You really do SUCK and because you arent occupying your time by properly growing, you have plenty of tine to TROLL.

Now like i said, my plants arent harvested yet, save for number 11 whom I pushed through a month early for smoke, and realized these are beasters. Also one bud off of number 12. Now... Regardless of how much of a retarded troll you think you are, she's ready and I'm patiently waiting a few days extra to make her heavier.

The fact that youre trying to say a plant isnt ready without a closeup of the trich heads says even more about how awful a grower you are.

It must suck to spend all that money on a grow room and a ridiculously oversized led and not even know wtf youre doing with it.

You really want to see whos right here? I fucking DARE YOU to make a post and put the pic of my bud next to yours and ask everybody for their opinion. You wont because deep down inside, you know you got smoked already. By a "newb" with fucking beasters at that.
Post up your last harvested and cured bud. Oh wait you can’t because this is your first fucking grow. But here’s mine that just came out of the curing chamber.

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Boatguy

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Well that all depends on whether the bottle has the "nutrients" in an amino chelated and natural form.. or if they're metallic SALTS. Seeing as how I'm in Organic soil and am using AMENDMENTS... the difference is huge.
No it really isnt. The plant really couldnt care less how it gets fed as long as its needs are met.
Your same flushing argument could be made for an organic mix cuz who wants to be smoking buds with bat guano in it.
I do grow organically now, but did several soilless grows before with bottled nutes. Never flushed. Went organic because im lazy, not because of any noticeable difference in the final product.

You seem to be an angry fellow so i will not trouble you with my nonsense any further. Good luck :peace:
 

KingQuazy

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No it really isnt. The plant really couldnt care less how it gets fed as long as its needs are met.
Your same flushing argument could be made for an organic mix cuz who wants to be smoking buds with bat guano in it.
I do grow organically now, but did several soilless grows before with bottled nutes. Never flushed. Went organic because im lazy, not because of any noticeable difference in the final product.

You seem to be an angry fellow so i will not trouble you with my nonsense any further. Good luck :peace:
Buds with guano in them? Umm the microbes in the soil separate the guano into usable MINERALS.

And the difference IS TREMENDOUS. I used NATURAL nutes, as compared to ORGANIC AMENDMENTS, the first feeding and it killed my soil. Read that again you fucking know it all... KILLED... MY... SOIL....



Go back to school lmao
 
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