Split Exhaust Idea for Tent

coreywebster

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See i started with my exhaust lower at the beginning of all this cause i thought it would keep cool air in.

Man this shit is a headache. Im tellin ya.

We broke records today where i am at for heat. 90+. Tent was at 98 when i checked at 8 pm. Sucks ass man

Also. Drivers do get very hot. I can’t even touch them. Top of lights are just warm. Drivers ...could boil eggs on them
Drivers are taking the heat directly from the heat sink, if you mount them remotely they wont be as hot.
Its standard to mount remotely when you have heat problems, every little bit helps.
 

rmax

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I looked through the thread and didn't see you telling us what the humidity number is in the room. If I overlooked it many apologies.

Can you tell us the indoor Vs outdoor numbers by going to weather.com and checking for the outside number.
 

SoN3at

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Drivers are taking the heat directly from the heat sink, if you mount them remotely they wont be as hot.
Its standard to mount remotely when you have heat problems, every little bit helps.
nah... they are definitely hotter than the heat sink. with this particular light they come separated and are shown in the ad hanging by ratchet hangers in tent. I had it set up that way for a while but I just got tired of the way it looked and I felt like they were just spreading heat if anything by hanging on either side of the tent. So I ended up mounting them to the heat sink. Looks better and I thought at first that putting all the heat in one spot might make it easier for the exhaust fan to get rid of it.

But yeah.. those drivers get insanely hot. But does anyone know if I can get extension cords for that type of plug?

I looked through the thread and didn't see you telling us what the humidity number is in the room. If I overlooked it many apologies.

Can you tell us the indoor Vs outdoor numbers by going to weather.com and checking for the outside number.
someone else was talking about their humidity so I'm not sure if you are talking to me or them. But my humidity at the moment is 70%, but I watered the plants this morning. Outside humidity is 60% And like I said earlier as soon as I hit flower I am gonna have to buy a dehumidifier because this is what happened last time. As soon as those plants start getting bigger and drinking/transpiring more the humidity sky rockets so quick. When they are young though the tent is dry as hell. 20-30% humidity. Makes it difficult because I like to chop plants a little bit at a time as they are ready to harvest and it's always been an issue when I have the majority of the plants chopped, the humidity drops and then the hanging buds get crispy.

BUT,
I shopped around today, and EVERYONE is out of AC units locally. So, I am looking on amazon. I was looking at LG, but everyone says to avoid buying LG products off amazon. So I am looking at some non- name brand ones because they seem to have the best reviews.

Any thoughts on these ?

amazon.com/Koldfront-WAC6002WCO-Conditioner-Dehumidifier-Control/dp/B07DFZHCQ4/ref=sr_1_15?dchild=1&keywords=GE%2B8000%2BBTU%2Ba%2Fc%2Bwindow%2Bunit&qid=1593803225&refinements=p_72%3A2661618011&rnid=2661617011&sr=8-15&th=1


If you get a window jobbie and after you prove to yourself it works sell/return the portable.
Lol, was thinking about this today with all the people out looking for AC units and the stores being out... could probably get a pretty penny for the portable in a parking lot today. But I'd probably keep it... I don't wanna spend the money but screw it... its worth the peace of mind of having a dependable setup that I don't have to worry about 24/7
 

coreywebster

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nah... they are definitely hotter than the heat sink. with this particular light they come separated and are shown in the ad hanging by ratchet hangers in tent. I had it set up that way for a while but I just got tired of the way it looked and I felt like they were just spreading heat if anything by hanging on either side of the tent. So I ended up mounting them to the heat sink. Looks better and I thought at first that putting all the heat in one spot might make it easier for the exhaust fan to get rid of it.

But yeah.. those drivers get insanely hot. But does anyone know if I can get extension cords for that type of plug?


someone else was talking about their humidity so I'm not sure if you are talking to me or them. But my humidity at the moment is 70%, but I watered the plants this morning. Outside humidity is 60% And like I said earlier as soon as I hit flower I am gonna have to buy a dehumidifier because this is what happened last time. As soon as those plants start getting bigger and drinking/transpiring more the humidity sky rockets so quick. When they are young though the tent is dry as hell. 20-30% humidity. Makes it difficult because I like to chop plants a little bit at a time as they are ready to harvest and it's always been an issue when I have the majority of the plants chopped, the humidity drops and then the hanging buds get crispy.

BUT,
I shopped around today, and EVERYONE is out of AC units locally. So, I am looking on amazon. I was looking at LG, but everyone says to avoid buying LG products off amazon. So I am looking at some non- name brand ones because they seem to have the best reviews.

Any thoughts on these ?

amazon.com/Koldfront-WAC6002WCO-Conditioner-Dehumidifier-Control/dp/B07DFZHCQ4/ref=sr_1_15?dchild=1&keywords=GE%2B8000%2BBTU%2Ba%2Fc%2Bwindow%2Bunit&qid=1593803225&refinements=p_72%3A2661618011&rnid=2661617011&sr=8-15&th=1




Lol, was thinking about this today with all the people out looking for AC units and the stores being out... could probably get a pretty penny for the portable in a parking lot today. But I'd probably keep it... I don't wanna spend the money but screw it... its worth the peace of mind of having a dependable setup that I don't have to worry about 24/7
As far as extending them just cut the cord strip it and join it to the same gauge wire with wago's , or buy an adapter rated for that voltage.
Just keep it minimal extension to avoid voltage drop.

By having your driver on top of your heatsink you are potentially shortening the life span of the driver and the diodes.

With the AC, all you have to do is size it right for the space in worst case scenario and your issues are solved.
Just don't rush into anything or you wont be any better off.
 

SoN3at

Member
As far as extending them just cut the cord strip it and join it to the same gauge wire with wago's , or buy an adapter rated for that voltage.
Just keep it minimal extension to avoid voltage drop.

By having your driver on top of your heatsink you are potentially shortening the life span of the driver and the diodes.

With the AC, all you have to do is size it right for the space in worst case scenario and your issues are solved.
Just don't rush into anything or you wont be any better off.
im going with 8k but i just dont wanna get a piece of shit
 

SoN3at

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Noticed something interesting today. Last night I left my front windows open and back windows open in the house.... it's a small house, and I have no a/c in the house so I do this to create a flow of cool air...anyways.. my temps in the room/tent were lower throughout the night. Right now it is 80/81 deg outside, usually it would be 82 in the tent but its at 78. AC unit must be sucking cooler air from the rest of the house through the cracks in the door/walls or where ever. Makes me wonder if I could just put a nice AC unit in the house and take care of the room and my living area. But it probably wouldn't work out on hotter days.
 

rmax

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Noticed something interesting today. Last night I left my front windows open and back windows open in the house.... it's a small house, and I have no a/c in the house so I do this to create a flow of cool air...anyways.. my temps in the room/tent were lower throughout the night. Right now it is 80/81 deg outside, usually it would be 82 in the tent but its at 78. AC unit must be sucking cooler air from the rest of the house through the cracks in the door/walls or where ever. Makes me wonder if I could just put a nice AC unit in the house and take care of the room and my living area. But it probably wouldn't work out on hotter days.

Good work. Open all the windows and doors at night and cool the place off. Outside by me it's already 91°F 33°C. The weather website says daytime highs in the 90's for weeks.

I rigged up the final six feet of air exhaust with the tent box, a leaf clippings bag and some clothes pins. "The final mile".

I didn't seal it 100%. About 90% of the heat is going out.
 

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SoN3at

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Good work. Open all the windows and doors at night and cool the place off. Outside by me it's already 91°F 33°C. The weather website says daytime highs in the 90's for weeks.

I rigged up the final six feet of air exhaust with the tent box, a leaf clippings bag and some clothes pins. "The final mile".

I didn't seal it 100%. About 90% of the heat is going out.
LoL. fuck man, whatever works I guess.
 

SoN3at

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Ordered an a/c unit, $280 for a 8000 BTU with wifi. Not too bad.

Talked to the guy I ordered my LED boards from and he is able to make extensions for me, $55 for 6 9.5ft cords. If I were to make them myself it would be about the same after buying cord ($30) shrink wrap (10$) connectors (10$). Might just wait till the AC unit comes and see if I even need to mount the drivers externally
 

Peyote alexia

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rmax

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You have it rightish.

I don't think running the tent exhaust through the AC unit is efficient. I'd send all tent exhaust air outside along with the AC exhaust , like you have. But who am I?
 

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Not so fast guys, back to the drawing board once this bitch goes in lol. Should i put the tent exhaust out the window or just exaust into room once this is installed?

Almost postive we were agreed on just exhausting into room using a window unit. But if not ill have to modify my exhaust panel to fit next to ac unit
 

rmax

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Not so fast guys, back to the drawing board once this bitch goes in lol. Should i put the tent exhaust out the window or just exaust into room once this is installed?

Almost postive we were agreed on just exhausting into room using a window unit. But if not ill have to modify my exhaust panel to fit next to ac unit
Look at that beast. Clear love for the plants!
 

SoN3at

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It's Been installed and running set to 71 deg for about, eh, 35 minutes now and we are sitting at 79 deg right now. Was 78.5 a minute ago... Not sure what's going on but I'm gonna keep an eye on it. Lights are dimmed to at least 70% though, I'd like to be able to get them back up to atleast 90% while maintaining a temp under 79. I'd be happy with 78.

Tent exhaust is inside the room... I might have to get that out the window somehow....
 

SoN3at

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Temps at 78.2 and dropping with ac set to 70 on medium.

Put my stronger fan (even though its rated at lower cfm) on the intake and my weaker fan(rated at higher cfm) on exhaust. And it seems to be working well. I just have a ton of positive pressure now. So. Gotta reverse the damn fans again and try to get negative pressure back while maintaining cool temp.
 

SoN3at

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Turned the lights up to 95% just to see what would happen. Set the AC to high and 68deg. Sitting at 86 deg in the tent now. These lights are effin hot man. Hopefully mounting the drivers outside of tent will make a difference.
 

rmax

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Turned the lights up to 95% just to see what would happen. Set the AC to high and 68deg. Sitting at 86 deg in the tent now. These lights are effin hot man. Hopefully mounting the drivers outside of tent will make a difference.
Are you routing tent exhaust to outside of the building?

Once I routed my tent exhaust to outside through the basement window humidity and temps dropped.
 

Peyote alexia

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One reason to a window/split ac"s efficiency compared to a portable unit is it doesnt create negative pressure, so doesnt draw air in the room. Which makes it perfect for a closed system. Unless your running c02 you shouldn't have a closed system. You need at least a exhaust exiting the building. To then have what they call a passive intake. Take all this and a lot more into consideration. Make sure your extracting the hot air from above the lights. Make sure your intakes on the tent are in areas with good circulation. Make sure your air leaks to the room are in cool places. Every aspect here can change a degree or two so it all counts.
The main reason for exhausting outside even if it seems counterintuitive due to there being no temoerature difference. Is due to the fact that your plants perspire moisture in heat more. And the more they transpire the harder it gets to kool the air. Its a viscous circle. Dont beleive me google "is it easier to cool down dry air" the ac will lower humidity. Do enough to lower get to the threshold where the ac controls it easier and easier wjwth all these tactics
Just throwing my 2c in again :p

I just got my dual hose unit. Will be modifying it slightly. Then sharing my results on the exhaust/ac series setup. But won't be for a while
 
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