Is it time for curing?

PadawanWarrior

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Food grade plastic vessels are a happy medium between retail glass and initial hanging. The missing step in most cases I'd guess.




My bud doesn't stop increasing flavor until 4-6 months. I'm definitely not going to hang for that long! The taste might be there but the smell won't.



Flush your shit then, your nutes are making it turn to dust. That's why dispotards whine about bud being 2 months old and "dry": dispensary weed is loaded with synthetic nutes, synthetic nutes smell like "gas" or "sweet" to dispotards, dispotards get poisoned by synthetic nutes and think that's a weed high, synthetic nutes then decompose; the perceived "sweet" or "gas" smell goes, the perceived effect goes, the perceived dankness of excess moisture goes, and the structural integrity of the bud goes.

We have an entire generation who actually desire unflushed, wet weed, because it smells like plastics, dank means wet, and it poisons them with nitrogen. It's fucking weird to be alive in century 21! When growers add silica to preserve their crappy nitrogen weed instead of tapering down nutes to make their crappy weed significantly less crappy.

And now we got this Flushing is Debunked movement, where these kids literally say nitrogen can't be removed from a plant, like they feed their plants once and it stays dark green forever...? So many youngsters making life harder for themselves by not using their brain, how do they find the energy to protest the police and tear down statues?

To be honest I've never seen hydro that was "dispensary bad" out in the wild, but I used to save one bud from every growers product I could get my hands on, hundreds of growers, hundreds of buds tied off in corner bag, and the bud with lower legitimate sweetness and gas levels, the bud that didn't improve and got crumbly the fastest was always from growers who did not understand the effects of excess nitrogen in flower, when the bud doesn't need it.
You're confused man. I grow organically in living no-till soil. Flushing is for toilets, lol.
 

Dontjudgeme

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I grow organically and don’t flush either, although I do understand ones reason for doing so. My thought is if I have to flush it, I probably shouldn’t have put it in there in the first place, but that’s me. Weed was grown waaaaaay before all the things we do now. Is that weed or genetic strain still around today, chances are probably not. So no one is really in a position to compare what we harvest now to what was harvested back then. I’m sure they got away with growing without Nutes, drying for an excess amount of days, and not curing and the weed was probably excellent. Did that make their harvest better than the harvest of today? Who knows. To some degree there is a little bit of science behind growing, even though it is just a weed and will grow absolutely fine without us doing anything to it. I however have grown a plant with absolutely nothing but water. The plant did make it to harvest, had a decent yield, but was no where near as “ potent “ as the stuff I grow organically, and yes it was a clone, not a completely different strain. So I was comparing apples to apples.

There were some good points brought up by both Lingual and 2Hearts. I’m sure my father in law, who is an old school grower would definitely hop on their band wagon, and why shouldn’t he, he grew up when all this crazy stuff we feed plants today wasn’t available. He even asked why I bother with curing. He said, “ If all you are going to do is finish the dry process in a jar, why not just leave the buds hanging for a longer period of time and skip the jar“..... It actually made sense and I plan on doing just that with this harvest I have coming up. But once again, the genetics he had back then isn’t around today, so maybe it was the genetics coming through his grows that made all the difference for his harvest, without the need to cure to bring the life out of the buds like we do today.

I mentioned science before because there are things you can do to either improve, or flat out destroy your harvest. I think we can all agree that we lean more toward the improvement side of things. Whether that be bottle feeding, growing organically, drying for long periods of time, no jarring, etc etc etc. We all have our way of doing things, and just because they may differ from each other doesn’t make them right or wrong. Just different. I’m always willing to try things the old school growers mention. Maybe it will help, maybe it wouldn’t. But at least I tried it so I can say for myself that it either improved, or didn’t make a difference at all.
 

Macncheesehaze

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I just ordered a Wedryer, anyone have any experience with this product? It’s basically a hanging drying rack with a small fan that moves air through a carbon filter. It was cheap so I pulled the trigger but I haven’t seen many reviews.
 

Dontjudgeme

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I just ordered a Wedryer, anyone have any experience with this product? It’s basically a hanging drying rack with a small fan that moves air through a carbon filter. It was cheap so I pulled the trigger but I haven’t seen many reviews.
Ive never used one personally. I always dry in the same tent I grow in. I would assume it’s the same principle.
 

Macncheesehaze

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Ive never used one personally. I always dry in the same tent I grow in. I would assume it’s the same principle.
I kind of figured the same. I can’t dry in the same tent because that tent is still rolling. I’ll harvest half and try this out. 70$ for but if it’s odorless then I’m all for it.
 

raggyb

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sure seems like smells get nicer as you burp and cure it. think i've overdried it and then smell didn't improve. that's all i'm saying.
 

Mrs. Weedstein

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I’m agreeing with the @2Hearts jackass and he doesn’t even realize it. What a goon. What he was saying makes sense he’s just such a jackass about it, you tune it out.
LOL, @2Hearts is angry no matter what, especially if you are nice to him. I swear I’m not trolling you 2hearts, I just opened this thread because I don’t know shit about curing — and there you are, starting fights! We should all be especially nice to 2hearts cuz he was brought up in a boarding school and the headmaster was hella mean to him. He didn’t ever get to eat his pudding because he didn’t finish his meat, poor chap.

Seriously, tho, I have bud that smells pretty decent after 6 months and some that still smells like hay. I was so overwhelmed with harvesting last autumn that I barely paid attention to drying and curing.

If anything, I unwittingly followed 2hearts method of letting them dry out a long time because I had a shitload and lacked time for jarring, etc. By the time I jarred, some were dry as hell and others weren’t, I figured it would even out.

Even as 2hearts has called me a dick and a shit in other threads, I think I am going to try his method of just letting them hang long as fuck this year, cuz it’s basically winter by that point and my garage humidity must be pretty high.

No, I am not about to buy equipment to check the actual humidity and then more equipment to try to change it. I can’t afford that shit and would rather smoke bud that smells like hay, LOL.
 
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Thundercat

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A major flavor and smell killer is harvesting too early.

Next is drying too fast. I don’t jar buds until they smoke nice and taste and smell great. I hang dry for 10-14 days on the Branch or plant. Then when the stem snaps I buck down the buds into a paper. The inside of the buds still had moisture at this point. So they stay in the paper bag for another 7-14 days getting shaken around daily and test smoked until they are right. Then trimmed and jarred when the buds burn smooth. Ready for storage or dispersal ;). People won’t wait any longer for it, and they rave about the flavor and smell.
 

J232

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A major flavor and smell killer is harvesting too early.

Next is drying too fast. I don’t jar buds until they smoke nice and taste and smell great. I hang dry for 10-14 days on the Branch or plant. Then when the stem snaps I buck down the buds into a paper. The inside of the buds still had moisture at this point. So they stay in the paper bag for another 7-14 days getting shaken around daily and test smoked until they are right. Then trimmed and jarred when the buds burn smooth. Ready for storage or dispersal ;). People won’t wait any longer for it, and they rave about the flavor and smell.
Might be a silly question but I plan on hang and bagging this round, do you leave the brown bags in the controlled room where the plants dried? My rh is wacky at times here so I’m going to use my walk in cooler, set the temp on the split and throw a carbon scrub and de humid in, I want a perfect dry this time. I have previously not spent the time to dry correctly, sometimes it’s close but it’s not there. I would assume brown bag and control the environment still.
 

Thundercat

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Might be a silly question but I plan on hang and bagging this round, do you leave the brown bags in the controlled room where the plants dried? My rh is wacky at times here so I’m going to use my walk in cooler, set the temp on the split and throw a carbon scrub and de humid in, I want a perfect dry this time. I have previously not spent the time to dry correctly, sometimes it’s close but it’s not there. I would assume brown bag and control the environment still.
I honestly never leave the bags anywhere special. Usually the closet :). I’m sure being in prime conditions would make for best results. The biggest key is a nice slow dry.
 

J232

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I honestly never leave the bags anywhere special. Usually the closet :). I’m sure being in prime conditions would make for best results. The biggest key is a nice slow dry.
Well that’s why I ask, it’s like keep one by the couch kinda thing lol. I should be able to get as slow as I want, I also hope I need to store some for a year :weed:.
 

Mrs. Weedstein

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A major flavor and smell killer is harvesting too early.

Next is drying too fast. I don’t jar buds until they smoke nice and taste and smell great. I hang dry for 10-14 days on the Branch or plant. Then when the stem snaps I buck down the buds into a paper. The inside of the buds still had moisture at this point. So they stay in the paper bag for another 7-14 days getting shaken around daily and test smoked until they are right. Then trimmed and jarred when the buds burn smooth. Ready for storage or dispersal ;). People won’t wait any longer for it, and they rave about the flavor and smell.
If it smells good before and during harvest but then smells like hay while drying, why would the early harvest be implicated? More chlorophyll?
 

testology1980

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WOW what a discussion.

The humidity is 40%-50% cause there is an end of flowering running tent in the same room, nothing I can do about it now.
The air condition is 24 hours around 24-23 degrees.
The drying harvest is inside a Wedryer.

Its very dry now but mostly smells like grass and not cannabis.
Even the large branches are snapped when bend.

I think I will get me some brown bags and move them to the bags (inside the Wedryer) tomorrow.

Thanks
 

Macncheesehaze

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WOW what a discussion.

The humidity is 40%-50% cause there is an end of flowering running tent in the same room, nothing I can do about it now.
The air condition is 24 hours around 24-23 degrees.
The drying harvest is inside a Wedryer.

Its very dry now but mostly smells like grass and not cannabis.
Even the large branches are snapped when bend.

I think I will get me some brown bags and move them to the bags (inside the Wedryer) tomorrow.

Thanks
You got a wedryer? I just ordered one. What’s your take on it?
 

Thundercat

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If it smells good before and during harvest but then smells like hay while drying, why would the early harvest be implicated? More chlorophyll?
Harvesting early will result in less dense buds that dry to quickly. So while it may smell good at before and at harvest. The buds dry so fast they never properly develop their dry flavor.

It also results in underdeveloped terpenes. That in combination with drying fast reduces overall smell and flavor beyond the actual plant material.
 

MY OWN DANK

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Harvesting early will result in less dense buds that dry to quickly. So while it may smell good at before and at harvest. The buds dry so fast they never properly develop their dry flavor.

It also results in underdeveloped terpenes. That in combination with drying fast reduces overall smell and flavor beyond the actual plant material.
And in turn will smell like fresh grass or hay... Chlorophyll :leaf:
 

testology1980

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You got a wedryer? I just ordered one. What’s your take on it?
I used it once before to dry 3 plants, its great, got a carbon filter so no smell.
The fan is a very very noisy computer fan, very cheep one, I changed it to a quite one for few more bucks (in the nearest computer store)
If you don't care about the noise than its fine.

Its a great solution if you want to keep on running your tent, I had 3 different strains so I had to.

I got this one
 

Wattzzup

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Harvesting early will result in less dense buds that dry to quickly. So while it may smell good at before and at harvest. The buds dry so fast they never properly develop their dry flavor.

It also results in underdeveloped terpenes. That in combination with drying fast reduces overall smell and flavor beyond the actual plant material.
So don’t be an early chopper
 
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