Is Gay Marriage Really That Big Deal?

CrackerJax

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Well I think it's pretty obvious that some here live and die on reps. I agree with you however, Just let the chips fall and help when you can.

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Wikidbchofthewst

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It IS dangerous. You could also say something like how you assume that everyone is smart and that they're wearing their Big Person undies and be hit with an infraction, while watching others call you a jerk or a pussy and get hit with nothing. Then, yep, there are all the cowards here who don't have the balls to at least sign their name... or maybe they just forgot. :lol: Bein' potheads and all.

Wikid, I messed up my copy & paste, but I wanted to respond. Now I don't have time to go back and hit everything, but I will reiterate, the ONLY group from which I get this kind of grief for my language and style is this group right here. Not even the big, "dumb" biker guys on my other forums have an issue, hell, they'll ask me straight up, "Translate that for me, please!" And I'm happy to, though I'll admit it's difficult at times. Why IS that? And why am I responsible for how others feel when reading my words, even when my words that aren't directed towards them? Should I worry about it? Nope, can't, I have more important things to worry about than how someone feels when their own vocabulary is limited. I learned at a very tender age that not everyone is going to like me or love me and plenty will detest me, so there's really little point in trying to do anything about it. Nothing about that has changed all these years later.

Politics IS something I'm passionate about, as political machinations ultimately affect us all very deeply, very significantly. This particular issue, removing rights from a group of people, just affects me on a very visceral level that I haven't yet been able to explain to myself, let alone others. It simply is what it is. I have VERY firm beliefs and reasons for my stance, and am happy to explain them as I have been doing since the beginning of this thread. I happen to feel that many of the arguments used against allowing same-sex marriage are the same as those against interracial marriage. Did you know that California was one of the first states to strike down law disallowing interracial marriage?

You asked about the differences between civil unions and marriage, and there is another similar legal contract called domestic partnership. In another thread, one on Prop. 5 if I recall, I had found some articles and information that discussed the legal aspects and differences between marriage and these other types of unions. I Googled "difference civil union vs. marriage" and came up with a few things, unfortunately one of the best (with the best links) has been removed. Here are my Google results (because I've gotta get going, otherwise I'd put up more in here).

Gogrow, I don't think you're stupid. But I also don't use my "big words" to intimidate people. I use them to communicate as effectively as possible, something that's a bit difficult for me. At the risk of getting dinged with another infraction I will reiterate, I assume that everyone else reading my posts is smart AND adult and that if they don't know a word or much on a particular subject they'll do one of two things--look it up themselves or just ask. Ask an honest question and I do my best to give an honest answer. I expect the same in return.

No, what people really don't like, more than my vocabulary (what a lame stack of shit to have a problem with someone about, talk about digging), about me is that I ask pointed questions and make the observations that they don't want to think about. I question everything and everyone in my life, including myself. It's how I learn, I love learning and don't ever want to stop. And, believe it or not, I speak as I was spoken to growing up (this includes some very colorful language, and yes, I've been told I curse like a sailor and need to tone it down and all that, to which I say, Fuck 'em.).

My grandmother once wrote a quote down for me, and I have always found it apt: The limits of my vocabulary define the limits of my world. Maybe not as apt as Youth and Enthusiasm are no Match for Age and Treachery, but apt nonetheless. :lol:
Still no answer on the whole take it up the ass comment, but whatever.

There's one thing I really don't get about you and Dave. You both obviously possess impressive vocabularies (or keep a thesaurus handy :razz:) but you both say you won't/can't "dumb it down."

I have an extensive vocabulary myself. English has always been my best subject;, reading, writing...I consider myself well spoken and good with words.

One of the biggest advantages of having such a large vocabulary is that I can communicate more effectively with people, no matter what their level of comprehension. The more words I know, the more options I have to explain things, so that I know they can understand me.

I will admit I'm not very good at defining words. I have a hard time giving EXACT definitions sometimes. But I can almost always come up with a synonym or antonym that will better help the person understand my meaning.

So I really don't get the idea that you both are so well versed, but have a hard time dumbing it down. One of the advantages of having a better handle on the language is that you have more options, more ways to express yourself.

I called VTXDave a pussy for not leaving his name when he neg rep me. Who are you to say I didn't get an infraction? Maybe I just took it like a big girl, unlike some others...:roll:
That's a good point. If I received an infraction, I wouldn't bitch about it in the thread. I dunno, I just don't think it's anyone else's business

Is it some sort of contest??? Lol...


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Well we do have our rep bars....it's like seeing whose is longer :wink:
 

CrackerJax

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Wiki said: Well we do have our rep bars....it's like seeing whose is longer :wink:



And you are 100% correct. But there is nothing worse than an artificially enhanced "bar" (pump pump pump) :hump::hump::shock:


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gogrow

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Still no answer on the whole take it up the ass comment, but whatever.

There's one thing I really don't get about you and Dave. You both obviously possess impressive vocabularies (or keep a thesaurus handy :razz:) but you both say you won't/can't "dumb it down."

I have an extensive vocabulary myself. English has always been my best subject;, reading, writing...I consider myself well spoken and good with words.

One of the biggest advantages of having such a large vocabulary is that I can communicate more effectively with people, no matter what their level of comprehension. The more words I know, the more options I have to explain things, so that I know they can understand me.

I will admit I'm not very good at defining words. I have a hard time giving EXACT definitions sometimes. But I can almost always come up with a synonym or antonym that will better help the person understand my meaning.

So I really don't get the idea that you both are so well versed, but have a hard time dumbing it down. One of the advantages of having a better handle on the language is that you have more options, more ways to express yourself. :wink:

that is what i was saying last night to dave... basically


Wiki said: Well we do have our rep bars....it's like seeing whose is longer :wink:



And you are 100% correct. But there is nothing worse than an artificially enhanced "bar" (pump pump pump) :hump::hump::shock:


:clap::lol:... you deserve one for that.... "rep whoring" made it pointless to even have the system anymore.... thats why rolly had to try to come up with the vbexp points and such...


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TheBrutalTruth

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Still no answer on the whole take it up the ass comment, but whatever.

There's one thing I really don't get about you and Dave. You both obviously possess impressive vocabularies (or keep a thesaurus handy :razz:) but you both say you won't/can't "dumb it down."

I have an extensive vocabulary myself. English has always been my best subject;, reading, writing...I consider myself well spoken and good with words.

One of the biggest advantages of having such a large vocabulary is that I can communicate more effectively with people, no matter what their level of comprehension. The more words I know, the more options I have to explain things, so that I know they can understand me.

I will admit I'm not very good at defining words. I have a hard time giving EXACT definitions sometimes. But I can almost always come up with a synonym or antonym that will better help the person understand my meaning.

So I really don't get the idea that you both are so well versed, but have a hard time dumbing it down. One of the advantages of having a better handle on the language is that you have more options, more ways to express yourself.



That's a good point. If I received an infraction, I wouldn't bitch about it in the thread. I dunno, I just don't think it's anyone else's business




Well we do have our rep bars....it's like seeing whose is longer :wink:
Wikid, the only problem I see with your post is that part of comprehension is the ability to define words. If you don't understand what a word means, then how do you possibly know that you are using it correctly?

As far as the comments about dumbing down one's comments. I think that that statement represents nothing more than the typical pandering found in politicians and prostitutes when they need to get their ideas and propositions across.

No, I don't think you are as nearly as intelligent as you are making yourself out to be, because if you were there would be no need for me to explain to you that vocabulary is more than a matter of knowing a collection of words, but extends to being able to use them in such a way to communicate in such a manner that your words leave no doubt as to what the point you are trying to make is, and that comprehension includes knowing the definition of a word.

It does know good to say that a person is an ignoramus if you do not know what the word means. Nor does it do any good to say yob tvoyu maht if you do not understand what it means. No, knowledge of the definitions of words is key to being able to boast of one's vocabulary.
 

Wikidbchofthewst

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Wikid, the only probably I see with your post is that part of comprehension is the ability to define words. If you don't understand what a word means, then how do you possibly know that you are using it correctly?

As far as the comments about dumbing down one's comments. I think that that statement represents nothing more than the typical pandering found in politicians and prostitutes when they need to get their ideas and propositions across.

No, I don't think you are as nearly as intelligent as you are making yourself out to be,
I stopped reading right there.

I don't need you to tell me how intelligent I am :grin:

I'm not here to try and impress strangers, that's the difference between me and you :wink:
 

gogrow

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I'm not here to impress any one, unlike our politicians I don't feel the overwhelming desire to pander for the vote of the lowest common denominator.

well, damn... im sorry that you are so far above the rest of us that you dont even have time for some humor:roll:... dont take life too seriously, youll never get out alive....
 

TheBrutalTruth

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well, damn... im sorry that you are so far above the rest of us that you dont even have time for some humor:roll:... dont take life too seriously, youll never get out alive....
:-)

I don't,

What's the point, after all the only things in life that are certain are death and taxes, and the scientists are working on solving the problem of the first.
 

gogrow

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:-)

I don't,

What's the point, after all the only things in life that are certain are death and taxes, and the scientists are working on solving the problem of the first.

depending on who you listen to, taxes are optional.... at least income tax... kinda hard to get around the rest if you live in america and ever use money...
 
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