4 strains under 1000W Black Dog LED (pics)

Apalchen

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Great looking grow. You always strip so hard right before flower? I usually wait til between day 14-21, but could see how as long as it didn't slow the plant down any that it would help lower budsites develop.
 

Hobbes

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Thanks Apalchen!

I strip every leaf that has a stem, leave the ones still growing out of a bud site.

This is my 4th grow defoliating, I'll do a second stripping at day 21 like you do. After my second defoliation I lower a scrog screen over the canopy, I couldn't do this without leaf stripping.

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Hobbes

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I left the cloner alone and the cuttings perked up overnight, straightening stems and turning leaves to the light.

I planed on putting the clones in alphabetical order but I think I messed up putting the clones in. Anyway, I've got 5 rows of 4 strains, and Blue Dream is the first strain on the left.

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Hobbes

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It's been 3 days since my first defoliation, already the leaves are growing back and reaching for my light. Very happy plants.

I'm going to run a few posts with each stage of defoliation - before, after, 3 days after and finally 3 weeks after just before my second defoliation.

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Just before defoliation.

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Just after defoliation.

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3 days into recovery.

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Slurracane in praying mode.

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Hobbes

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I had some trouble with my Lemon Haze last night - it was finger tipping (nutrient burn on the tips of the leaves) and showing signs of magnesium deficiency and/or light bleaching.

This morning the problems hadn't progressed any further and the 3 other strains were fine.

I flushed the Lemon Haze with 1 gallon of ph'd water with 5 mg of cal-mag. Hopefully the problem doesn't spread any further.

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Hobbes

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3 days later and my Lemon Haze has recovered and is flourishing.

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The Slurracane is the most vigorous grower of the bunch.

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An above pic of the whole garden, the spaces between the plants should grow in over the next two weeks.

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Hobbes

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Roots in clonner

It's been about 7 days since I took cuttings and put them in my bubbler cloner. The cuttings starting budding a couple of days ago and the roots promptly grew out of the buds.

I'll veg the new clones in the bubbler for a week or two, then transplant to 6" pots. I've got 19 clones and only need 4, so 12 clones go to friends who grow and the other 3 I'll think of something to do.

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Hobbes

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10 days from start of flower.

I have lots of roots on one half of the cloner, where the pump flows and the air stone bubbles, and the other half of the bubbler is all but bare. I moved the air stone to the other back half of the cloner and I think that the mechanical action of the bubbler will speed rooting.

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You can see how the clones in the upper rows are flourishing while the bottom two rows look parched. Only 3 clones of the bottom 10 have roots, they're faring better than the rest.

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My flower garden has fully recovered from defoliation, it'll continue to fill out and grow over the next week and a half until stretch ends.

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This is Slurracane, the most aggressive grower, it's unfortunately 3" taller than Blue Dream and Lemon Haze. Scrogging is going to be tough, definitely need another defoliation.

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Hobbes

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Planting day 1

The Slurracane roots are taking up prime space in the bubbler so I planted three to give the other strains a chance to stretch out.

I like to get a massive root system before planting.

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After planting I water them in until run off. It's important to remember that the root system is only in a small margin of your pot.

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Hobbes

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I've planted 12 clones and have 5 more rooted that I'm not going to plant. I'm having difficulty getting the plants to their new owners because of traffic restrictions because of Covid-19 and moving logistics. I've got my 4 picked out and I may have to throw out the remaining 8 clones.

Anyone in my area need some clones? j/k

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My flower garden has regrown all the leaves, which are supporting bud sites.

I hate to defoliate a second time they look so good, bud sites stacking one on top of the next.

I'm wondering about the buds showing and defoliation - I'm at day 16 and usually defoliate a second time on day 21. All four strains seem mature for 2 weeks of flower.

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Hobbes

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4 of the clones have gotten to their new home, I've got 4 left to deliver and 4 for myself.

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On page one F80M4 asked why I would spend $270 on 4 plants. With these 12 clones and the original 4 that makes 16 clones for $270 rather than just 4, so instead of $77 a plant harvested we're down to around $16 per plant harvested. To be harvested.

If the bud is good I'll run some of the perpetual clone chain for years.

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Bigdaddy76

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How you liking your Black Dogs? I have 3 1000’s and a 800 on movers! Love them. Also using Success Nutrients. They have the best customer service around and have a great product. I’m also trying to copy a Black Dog grow. Using Sunshine #4 like them amended with perlite, 3:1 soil to perlite.
 

Hobbes

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I love mine too Bigdaddy, I've got the 1000w and a 200w that's perfect for a 3x3 veg.

With 3 1000s you must be pumping out the bud!

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Ryante55

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You too F80M4!

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I ran my trim through my dry sift tumbler tonight. For those of you with small grows struggling with bubble bags or BHO I highly recommend a dry sift tumbler, it's so easy and fast. Throw your trim in a freezer bag, dump it in the screen drum, let it run for 15 then 30 minutes, throw out the trim, do whatever with the keif.

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I weighed in at 70 grams - 89 g total less 19 for the bag.

If ratios go like my last run I'll get 8% return, or 5.6 grams over 2 runs.

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The 150 gram screen drum with 70 grams of trim:

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The tumbler is basically a plastic crate, a screen drum, and a dc motor.

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The dry sift falls to the bottom of the crate and we scrape it up with a card.

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First run weighed in at 4.17 grams

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Second run yields about 40% of the first, after 30 minutes running.

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With 2.06 grams from the second run we get 6.2 grams from 70 grams of trim, or 8.8%, slightly higher return than my last harvest.

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Now I have to figure out what to do with all the keif!

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Anyone know how much keif is worth? It'd be interesting to do a calculation for return on investment: If I'm getting 6 grams of keif per grow how long does it take to pay for the dry sift tumbler - around $475 Canadian.

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Unfortunately it's really cheap like $10 a gram so it's going to take you a few years at that rate
 

Bigdaddy76

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I love mine too Bigdaddy, I've got the 1000w and a 200w that's perfect for a 3x3 veg.

With 3 1000s you must be pumping out the bud!

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That’s some serious light for that small of a footprint. Each one of my 1000’s are on a 5x5 foot print, but on movers and my 800, in veg has a 4x6 footprint, on a mover. My movers are only set to go 12-16”. Just enough to get the shadows. Are you running CO2? Definitely need to run that to max out yields!
 
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