K1Ng5p4d3's Cardboard Box Grow (hehe)

-=4:20=-Guy

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Hydro is clean... and easy... and there is zero guess work... it's like following a cake recipe... easy....
Yep Im on week 8 of Fox Farms schedule since clone and its like he said just like making a cake. Maybe your first ever cake but Im sure it would be edible. =)

the only thing from stopping me is the fact that i already spent over a grand on my setup and dont need to be spending anymore
That has been stopping me since as long as I can remember. Time will pass and things will get better every grow just stay dedicated. =)

But it's like Al put it once... all we are trying to do with soil, aero, hydro or whatever, is WATER THE PLANTS....
No way I am trying to provide my plants with the best possible conditions for maximum growth and health.
 

GypsyBush

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No way I am trying to provide my plants with the best possible conditions for maximum growth and health.
Yeah ... we all are... but what I am saying is that the plant does not need one medium or another... it does not even need soil... it needs H2O and nutrients... how you effect that does not matter...

Hydro, aero, soil are all ways of delivering the nutes and water to the plant...as long as it gets them it could care less id the water runs in circles to the right or if it goes up and down a pipe... or even if it falls from the sky....

I agree with what you said 100%, but your statement does not debunk mine... in fact, they are almost a different subject...

Hit me back....

cheers...:joint::peace:
 

raiderman

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ive never smoked no hydro before . they say hydro grows putout more bud per sqare ft than soil mixes. but they potency is in soil grown . for me i do soil for less trouble. plus i live in a small cowtown in texas, i'd have to drive a ways to get any hydro supplies if somethin happened.bongsmilie
 

GypsyBush

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ive never smoked no hydro before . they say hydro grows putout more bud per sqare ft than soil mixes. but they potency is in soil grown . for me i do soil for less trouble. plus i live in a small cowtown in texas, i'd have to drive a ways to get any hydro supplies if somethin happened.bongsmilie
I am smoking some of my own hydro right now...bongsmilie

And in my world...

Hydro and soil can produce the same quantities of the same potency...

Now, Pot grown organically in soil, can't be beat for taste, in my opinion...

Hydro allows for more aggressive and vigorous growth, since little to none of it's energy goes into pushing through dirt... water is just easier to push through...

As for supplies... Wal Mart or pretty much any hardware store or super market has the stuff you need...

a bucket and an air pump/stone... some foam from a pillow and you're all set...:eyesmoke:

Cheers....
 

-=4:20=-Guy

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Yeah ... we all are... but what I am saying is that the plant does not need one medium or another... it does not even need soil... it needs H2O and nutrients... how you effect that does not matter...
"H2O and nutrients" is it in a nut shell

Hydro, aero, soil are all ways of delivering the nutes and water to the plant...as long as it gets them it could care less id the water runs in circles to the right or if it goes up and down a pipe... or even if it falls from the sky....
I do agree that it dosnt care how but it NEEDS ALL of them for peak performance. I have been at this for some time and have NEVER had a soil crop do as well as my current hydro grow is going. I can only attribute the difference in health to the switch to hydro.

I agree with what you said 100%
Im glad.

LOL just messin I feel like a politician doing that.


i live in a small cowtown in texas, i'd have to drive a ways to get any hydro supplies if somethin happened.bongsmilie
Necessity is the mother of invention. Shops aren't open 24/7 here.

Love your new avatar.
 

raiderman

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i didnt realize it was that easy, i may do one sometime. ican always build a room.and be creative. your setup is very professional to me your using every bit of rooma and not little. long term goals.i'm seetting mine up to produce 2 pounds evry 60 days.with the 250 conversion lamp coming to do clones ,rotating ,i can easily.
 

-=4:20=-Guy

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your setup is very professional to me your using every bit of rooma and not little.
Thanks I appreciate it.

long term goals.i'm seetting mine up to produce 2 pounds evry 60 days.with the 250 conversion lamp coming to do clones ,rotating ,i can easily.
Amen thats about where Im at. I have a legal count limit that I have to maintain so I cant do any of the perpetual harvest setups and I have to veg a bit longer and in the flowering room so Im thinking about every 75 days or so Ill be able to pull in this configuration.
 

raiderman

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roughly the same here , yea, i am estamating around longer veging to , till they fini flowering huh. are you cloning and veging around 56 days RIU. then flower?
 

-=4:20=-Guy

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are you cloning and veging around 56 days. then flower?
Haven't quite decided yet. Im thinking that I want to have clones rooted and going to veg under the 250w in rock cubes when I start my 2 week flush. But I may want to start them with 3 or 4 weeks to go, and let them stretch under the 250w a bit.

Gonna have to decide soon week four almost over.
 

raiderman

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funny you should say , i just ordered a 250 watt conversion mini system for veging clones or mothers , i figured get a few clones , to get a mother, get clones in 6 weex for veging , wen clones get ready for veging , kill mother and veg clones till others are through flowering. put those that were veging in flower, take a few clones for new mother, repeat, does that sound better than veging 2 months while the pothers are finishing.
 

-=4:20=-Guy

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funny you should say , i just ordered a 250 watt conversion mini system for veging clones or mothers , i figured get a few clones , to get a mother, get clones in 6 weex for veging , wen clones get ready for veging , kill mother and veg clones till others are through flowering. put those that were veging in flower, take a few clones for new mother, repeat, does that sound better than veging 2 months while the pothers are finishing.
I usually keep mums for at least two batches, sometimes three.
 

raiderman

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thats wat i want , i have all kinds of seed strain,probably the best in the world. bb, g13HP, b.moonshine, b.cheese .etc. iwant to get a couple of white russian to for put bak. do you like to do that. keep killer strains for future grows or do you keep your favorite strain goin?
 

-=4:20=-Guy

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thats wat i want , i have all kinds of seed strain,probably the best in the world. bb, g13HP, b.moonshine, b.cheese .etc. iwant to get a couple of white russian to for put bak. do you like to do that. keep killer strains for future grows or do you keep your favorite strain goin?
I havent grown from seed in quite a while. After things got legal here in California I have just been getting clones. I went through quite a few diffrent strains before I tried the PK. Its the best I have ever had, it has a great body numbing effect, along with a clean defined head high. I am on generation 6 and dont have anything in reserve.
 

K1Ng5p4d3

Junior Creatologist
dude, i got a fuckin stockpile of seeds, lol. My shit is fuckin proper when it comes to havin a backup plant in case shit goes south, i just dont wanna have to use any seeds that im plannin future grows with.

I think i have a total of 11 other strains put away for a rainy day man, and its worth every penny knowing that the genetics that i have stashed away are all bar none the highest quality and most saught after strains that are available. Plus, it helps to get all u can, WHILE you can, just in case somethin happens in the future that prohibits us from making orders like that anymore. like i said, rainy day...

N Raiderman, If you got two 600w setups, and some extra room, why dont you just do a proper perpetual grow?? you got the 25 for cloning/seedlings. N then you got two seperate 600 w light systems. What i would do, is set up a table with a shitload of clones/seedlings, and start them off, n let them go for three weeks. After three weeks is up, take everything you just cloned, and put them under your 600w, and start vegging, and get some new clones and put them under the 250. 3 weeks later, hook up another table under the same 600w light, and move the vegging plants over to THAT table, and move the next set of clones to the 1st veg table. 3 weeks later, move the 1st set of vegging plants on to one table in another room where your other 600w light is to flower, and move the other vegg plants to the 2nd table, and the clones to the 1st table. 3 weeks later, make a second table in the flowering room, and move them over to it, and all the other plants move along too. N so forth n so on = perpetual grow.

Well, actually that wouldbe good for a setup for every 4 weeks, not 3. But even still, its a thought man, and it really wouldnt take up that much room depending on how many plants your doin.


N Gyps, sorry about the mixup man, i totally forgot about those other plants man, musta fuckin drank somethin wierd earlier, lol. But nontheless, those roots are still lookin fuckin healthy as shit, and cant wait to check the end result man. N u buildin up another tent for the mothers, right??
That shit is such a good idea, the way that you made your tent. Im just glad i got the frame on my tent so i dont gotta make one on my own. Not that itd be hard to do, its just prefabbed, n makes my life easier cuz i wont have to tear anything down cept for the vinyl on that bitch. But i AM gonna be changin out the material on the tent. Id rather be safe than sorry for sure.

I cant believe ive been gone for a couple hours n you fuckers took up 3 pages worth of space o_O - must be some kinda record for this thread, lol.


anyways, im gonna start a new post, n post up some pics for you guys.
 

DKskater75

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haha i know what you mean man its like the party moved from my journal over to yours lol i had pages and pages every day there for a while now its just a couple posts a day haha i guess updates would help... lets see if i can get some new pics up today... bongsmilie
 

K1Ng5p4d3

Junior Creatologist
So Heres a quick update. You gotta forgive me about the lack of pics, i didnt take pics of my dro plants, the wife was doin maintenance on one of the containers,and the other one is blocked by my fuckin mongoloid gigantor fan. Its huge, but it works, forreal. dropped them temp in my tent by ten degrees, and thats just on a low setting. Add into that the ionizer built into the fan, and you got clean, ozonated (LOL) air gettin pumped into my tent constantly. temp is at 80-82 degrees with 20% humidity.

So heres some snapshots - i have my bags color coded so i know which is which.

Wide Shot of the tent - i keep the flaps peeled back at all times, and the plants seem to like it:


My soil babies


blue cheese recovering from bad yellowing


another bluecheese (half of a fanleaf is missing from a head on collision between her and a twilight plant - dont ask man)


Northern Soul female, lookin nice n healthy - cant wait to see her grow man


This is Whiteberry - I think that she might have caught a little bit of burn from a splash of some nutrient rich water that i fed to Corky a few days back. It was accidental, and i dont water Corky in the same space as ANY of my plants anymore


Twilight Number 2


N heres Twilight #1, this is the one that had an altercation with the Blucheese plant. They both seem to bemissing half a leaf on the same node on both plants, lol


N heres a couple quick corky shots, shes fillin out fuckin nicely man - i think ill get close to an oz out of her once shes done fillin out. right now i would say that her nugs would be equal to about a half oz dry from what i can eyeball, n theres a couple weeks still to go, so im keepin my fingers crossed, but wont be heartbroken if i only end up with a 1/2 oz. Free bud is free bud man.






N heres a Shot of my big Honkin Fan that takes up a shitload of space. I take the fan out of the tent when i put my other hydro box in there, but to be honest, all i gotta do is jerry rig a stand for that fucker n i could probably still fit it in the tent if i wanned to man, lol. N i was wrong, you can see the one dro plant in the box right there behind the fan - it was the one with the really bad yellowing leaves. I cut the yellow and wilting ones off, so it could concentrate on all new growth, like you would do with a clone. Since i cut all the extra leaves off, new roots have started growing. So im happy with that shit for now.




So theres another update. Ill hook up some pics of dro root systems n whathaveya as soon as theres progress to report on. Right now theyre busy buildin up their water wings so once i see some new foliage ill post pics up for you guys i promise.

-K1.
 

DKskater75

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haha i almost bought a fan just like that shit rules cleans and cools the air all at once... plants look great man but did you say 20% humidity?? i believe you want it up around 50% especially for veggin. it should bring the temps down around 75 too...
 

raiderman

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say kingman wat size are those bags , i may up grade my containers to those if thier big enuff, that tent is sweet, how in the hell did you come upwith somethin that sweet , wow, if i would had known they had stuff like that , hell i'd camped out in it with my plants..lol..as far as strains, no doubt gotta keep this train movin, every harvest i yurn an oz an buy 400 dollars worth and put them bak, .. a couple britts told me yesterday that they were talkin about closing all the uk seed shops,, of course i know of some in europe i buy from also , but it may get rough someday, they aint gonna catch me with my pants down .fck that. i even put bak some my orange bud herme seeds.lol.sorry for hijacking the thread , you jus get the best company around the globe meeting here, i wish i could pass a joint of this citrus deisel skunk weed.lol
 

Thundercat

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ROFLMAO...!!!!!!:lol:

.. well, I subdivide the number pm's, by the number of times that I heard "OH FUCK!!!!"....

Then, I take into consideration the Earth's gravitational pull, followed by the Coriolis effect, and last but not least we multiply everything byt the number or atoms present in a burst of Aurora Borealis, when it is displaying the color RED, which amongst the Yup'ik Eskimos of the far North mean change, in form of the "bleeding sky"...

So after all that math.. and some more Gypsy shannenegans... you get that result...lol....

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:eyesmoke:

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Gypsy you are fucking hilarious bro, you cracked me up!! :joint:
 
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