WTF!!!

DIY-HP-LED

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Well that’s the thing, most normal thinking people look at mushroom dick and see a fool and a lier. My befuddlement is caused by the people that see a competent leader.......that’s the WTF!!! How is it possible there are enough retards to get him elected and possibly twice ....... WTF!!! I’m somewhat glad I can no longer step foot in the US due to the number of retards ......... by the way I loath to use that word but in this context it’s fitting.
83% of Canadians say it should stay closed, fuck what Donald wants! America is ground zero now and everybody is gonna treat them like they have the plague, cause they do.
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Fogdog

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Biden said he is staying out of it. Trump's trial will be epic, I can't wait for the first gag order to be slapped on him.
Setting the precedent of a current president overseeing an administration that prosecutes his former political opponent is a big step to take. Gerald Ford, with proof in hand that he committed crimes, pardoning Richard Nixon -- "to heal the nation's wounds" -- is the only precedent we have. I totally agree that Trump is guilty of crimes. I'd like to see Trump behind bars, I'll say that right now. I just don't think that Biden will do it. Biden is an old and experienced politician. Perhaps he will cut a deal with Republican Senators to let Trump off the hook in exchange for passing some critical legislation. I don't know if that would be the worst thing to do. Perhaps this might be better over all for the country than seeing Trump marched into prison while Congress is deadlocked.
 
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420drummer

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The left is pure hate. The ones preaching diversity and equality but are the quickest to hate a person that don’t think exactly like them. Left - right. It doesn’t fucking matter these are the hands of the same body.
 

hanimmal

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Setting the precedent of a current president overseeing an administration that prosecutes his former political opponent is a big step to take. Gerald Ford, with proof in hand that he committed crimes, pardoning Richard Nixon -- "to heal the nation's wounds" -- is the only precedent we have. I totally agree that Trump is guilty of crimes. I'd like to see Trump behind bars, I'll say that right now. I just don't think that Biden will do it. Biden is an old and experienced politician. Perhaps he will cut a deal with Republican Senators to let Trump off the hook in exchange for passing some critical legislation. I don't know if that would be the worst thing to do. Perhaps this might be better over all for the country than seeing Trump marched into prison while Congress is deadlocked.
I think the easiest way to get America to see what has been going on with all of the disinformation campaign that he has been involved with. From Hate radio, the lies pushed on Fox News, and all of the online data manipulation and trolling. A nice trial should bring it all into the light hopefully.

The left is pure hate. The ones preaching diversity and equality but are the quickest to hate a person that don’t think exactly like them. Left - right. It doesn’t fucking matter these are the hands of the same body.
'The left is pure hate' is a pretty broad statement. I am sure you are immediately thinking you stand by it, but you are wrong. If you are an American, you are getting pummeled with propaganda from the right wing disinformation campaign telling you what the 'left' is all about.

They are lies, you should shake off their cult leader and hateful propaganda and understand that for the last 6 years the lies they have been pushing has been intense.

I wish you and your family well, and hope that you figure out that the lies being spread by Trump's Right wing trolls (foreign and domestic) is all bullshit.
 

captainmorgan

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tRUmp is coming to Michigan today for a photo op at a Ford plant making ventilators. He's been told he would be required to wear a mask and his response was "will see". He also wants to visit the area where dams have failed Tuesday to act like he gives a shit, he doesn't. He's been asked not to come to the area since this just happened and they are in the middle of rescue operations. I think he will ignore that and drag his convoy of idiots into the area and hamper rescue efforts and actually make things worse, maybe even cost some lives, that's what he does., Wonder if he'll bring rolls of paper towels to clean up all this water.
 

captainmorgan

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Just realized that if tRUmp ignores the request not to visit the disaster area, which he probably will just because he was asked not to come. The route would take him right past a new billboard in his honor. Will they drive by it or avoid it by taking a longer slower route, probably, he's a coward in all things.


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topcat

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Setting the precedent of a current president overseeing an administration that prosecutes his former political opponent is a big step to take. Gerald Ford, with proof in hand that he committed crimes, pardoning Richard Nixon -- "to heal the nation's wounds" -- is the only precedent we have. I totally agree that Trump is guilty of crimes. I'd like to see Trump behind bars, I'll say that right now. I just don't think that Biden will do it. Biden is an old and experienced politician. Perhaps he will cut a deal with Republican Senators to let Trump off the hook in exchange for passing some critical legislation. I don't know if that would be the worst thing to do. Perhaps this might be better over all for the country than seeing Trump marched into prison while Congress is deadlocked.
The notion of "healing", or "uniting" the country is a farce. We've never been united and Trump has taken off the cover that we will ever heal. If we really want to believe that "no one is above the law", then Biden is right to stay out and let Kamala Harris, as AG, prosecute crimes.
 

downhill21

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The left is pure hate. The ones preaching diversity and equality but are the quickest to hate a person that don’t think exactly like them. Left - right. It doesn’t fucking matter these are the hands of the same body.
This is what Fox News teaches 24/7, but not what one sees watching main stream media or news services, first hand. You merely parrot what you hear in your bubble.
 

downhill21

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The left is pure hate. The ones preaching diversity and equality but are the quickest to hate a person that don’t think exactly like them. Left - right. It doesn’t fucking matter these are the hands of the same body.
Another Fox & right wing lie is that the country is divided between liberals & conservatives only. That the country consists of Conservatives, and The Enemy. We, the people, come in all flavors. Not everybody is your enemy.
 

downhill21

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tRUmp is coming to Michigan today for a photo op at a Ford plant making ventilators. He's been told he would be required to wear a mask and his response was "will see". He also wants to visit the area where dams have failed Tuesday to act like he gives a shit, he doesn't. He's been asked not to come to the area since this just happened and they are in the middle of rescue operations. I think he will ignore that and drag his convoy of idiots into the area and hamper rescue efforts and actually make things worse, maybe even cost some lives, that's what he does., Wonder if he'll bring rolls of paper towels to clean up all this water.
I believe that these two dams bursting will make it a bit harder for him to persecute the Guv. Reasonable Americans, I like to think, will feel that Whitmer has enough on her plate without all the conservative organized fools storming the state capital, & Trump’s online &taped sweating of her. At least reasonable Michiganders. The douchebag actually tweeted that he may without federal funding for MI, for a false reason he fabricated. Most voters don’t really dig being threatened, I’d think.
 

downhill21

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I think the easiest way to get America to see what has been going on with all of the disinformation campaign that he has been involved with. From Hate radio, the lies pushed on Fox News, and all of the online data manipulation and trolling. A nice trial should bring it all into the light hopefully.


'The left is pure hate' is a pretty broad statement. I am sure you are immediately thinking you stand by it, but you are wrong. If you are an American, you are getting pummeled with propaganda from the right wing disinformation campaign telling you what the 'left' is all about.

They are lies, you should shake off their cult leader and hateful propaganda and understand that for the last 6 years the lies they have been pushing has been intense.

I wish you and your family well, and hope that you figure out that the lies being spread by Trump's Right wing trolls (foreign and domestic) is all bullshit.
Well, and very fairly spoken.
 

Fogdog

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The notion of "healing", or "uniting" the country is a farce. We've never been united and Trump has taken off the cover that we will ever heal. If we really want to believe that "no one is above the law", then Biden is right to stay out and let Kamala Harris, as AG, prosecute crimes.
I'm just putting it out there that Biden has in the past dealt with nuance and moral issues by taking a pragmatic approach. Such as busing. I'm not saying what he "should" do, just saying that he's been the type to use something like this to make a deal. I don't know what he will do. You don't either, so let's just consider what your reaction would be if he did this.

Let's say he bargained with Republicans to get their cooperation for campaign finance reform laws and strengthening the ACA in exchange for a pardon for Trump. Not making a deal would mean filibuster in the Senate and deadlock. Is that something you'd go all negative about Biden over?
 

CunningCanuk

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I'm just putting it out there that Biden has in the past dealt with nuance and moral issues by taking a pragmatic approach. Such as busing. I'm not saying what he "should" do, just saying that he's been the type to use something like this to make a deal. I don't know what he will do. You don't either, so let's just consider what your reaction would be if he did this.

Let's say he bargained with Republicans to get their cooperation for campaign finance reform laws and strengthening the ACA in exchange for a pardon for Trump. Not making a deal would mean filibuster in the Senate and deadlock. Is that something you'd go all negative about Biden over?
Good post. I like the thought of using a Trump pardon for political and social gain. Good things can be accomplished because of a pardon. One thing is certain, if Trump is gone with a pardon he’s not going to be quiet. Republicans still have to worry about his base.

On the other hand, what does it say about a system that would allow for such a miscarriage of justice?
 

schuylaar

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It is just like any of the other actual journalist generated news that are held legally liable if they screw up and report false information, they don't mess around and give the entire story. And just like the others it's when they have their talking heads/politicians on air that you got to be careful about listening to what they are saying.

"Mainstream media" is Rorschach test that people decide what it means to them.
people need to understand the definition of news v. opinion.
 

schuylaar

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Good post. I like the thought of using a Trump pardon for political and social gain. Good things can be accomplished because of a pardon. One thing is certain, if Trump is gone with a pardon he’s not going to be quiet. Republicans still have to worry about his base.

On the other hand, what does it say about a system that would allow for such a miscarriage of justice?
pardon is federal only.
 
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