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Jimdamick

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I read 2 articles this morning about COVID-19 that made me shake my head, as if I needed more of an incentive.

One being that the poor have 2 weeks in NYC to pick up their loved ones bodies or they will be buried in a Potters Field on Harts Island due too overload.


Then that cocksucker acutally injected politics into this tragedy and blames Blue states for the their problems dealing with the Virus, implying that he's going to follow McConnell's lead and allow the States that are run by Democrats to go broke.


Jesus Christ Almighty, what have we done by electing this POS?
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I read 2 articles this morning about COVID-19 that made me shake my head, as if I needed more of an incentive.

One being that the poor have 2 weeks in NYC to pick up their loved ones bodies or they will be buried in a Potters Field on Harts Island due too overload.


Then that cocksucker acutally injected politics into this tragedy and blames Blue states for the their problems dealing with the Virus, implying that he's going to follow McConnell's lead and allow the States that are run by Democrats to go broke.


Jesus Christ Almighty, what have we done by electing this POS?
This sums things up James!
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DIY-HP-LED

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Better hope Donald doesn't hear about this, he will cut their funding and demand the money back. Also, these YouTube people aren't doctors, they have no business telling people about medical secrets, lest the right wing pick up on it, they must also be part of some hidden agenda. I wonder could Putin be involved in this dastardly plot?

If Donald mentions any of this stuff, you won't need to worry about the funding being cut off by the right, when the minds close on the left.
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The Race to Develop a Coronavirus Treatment in 60 Days

This rapid response team has been preparing for a pandemic for years. Now, they’re developing a treatment for COVID-19 at breakneck speed. Here’s how
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Why things went nuts over HCQ, today's word is Lysol, or shoving a UVC tube up their assholes!
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Vanity Fair Looks At Trump's Plan To Battle Virus With Unproven Drug | Morning Joe | MSNBC
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“Really Want to Flood NY and NJ”: Internal Documents Reveal Team Trump’s Chloroquine Master Plan
Forget testing, ventilators, and PPE. Donald Trump’s big plan to beat COVID-19 involved distributing millions of doses of an unproven drug. Behind the scenes, senior administration officials pushed hard to bend the rules and back up his boasts.

On the afternoon of Saturday, April 4, President Trump stood at the White House podium and escalated his marketing blitz on behalf of hydroxychloroquine, hyping the old malaria drug’s alleged promise in treating COVID-19, as well as his administration’s success in acquiring huge amounts of it.

“We have millions and millions of doses of it—29 million to be exact,” he said, as the official tally of COVID-19 cases in the U.S. topped 260,000 and governors across the country pleaded for federal support to acquire tests, ventilators, and protective gear for health care workers. “We’re just hearing really positive stories, and we’re continuing to collect the data.” That evening, according to emails obtained by Vanity Fair, Trump’s political appointees would ramp up the pressure on career health officials to make good on the president’s extravagant promises, despite clear warnings from federal clinicians about the risks and unproven benefits of chloroquine-based treatments for COVID-19.

Vanity Fair has assembled this account based on documents and interviews provided by multiple federal officials with knowledge of internal Trump administration proceedings.

The president had been touting hydroxychloroquine for weeks, sparking worldwide shortages of the drug and prompting negotiations with Indian prime minister Narendra Modi to lift export restrictions on its active ingredients. But on March 24, the federal government’s top interagency working group of clinicians and scientists privately threw cold water on his claims, according to a federal official with knowledge of the working group’s deliberations. In an internal consensus statement, a medical countermeasures group within Health and Human Services recommended that chloroquine-based COVID-19 treatments should be studied only in controlled, hospital-based clinical trials, as their safety and efficacy was “not supported by data from reliable clinical trials or from non-human primates” and carried “potential risks.” The medicines—which are used to treat malaria as well as autoimmune conditions such as lupus—can have serious side effects, including heart arrhythmias.
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DIY-HP-LED

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I was gonna make a coronavirus treatments thread, but I think I'll wait for a study or two to be released, there should be a couple coming out soon. Here are the kinds of things that would be posted there though, along with basic scientific information that will inform those interested. Treatments are coming soon, indeed convalescent plasma is being used now, while trials are underway for covid -19 efficacy and it will most likely be the first effective treatment deployed this summer, we await proper studies and clinical trials. Why you might see this treatment deployed first is that there are no real ethical issues with using it any more than giving a patient a regular plasma transfusion and that happens everyday.

More public policy and science, scientists should be making the calls and not psycho politicians, con men, syncopaths, or greed driven CEO's.
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“I Take That as a Threat”: Big Pharma Is Meddling in the Race for a COVID-19 Treatment
A Yale researcher poised to start a crucial clinical trial received an ominous email from a pharmaceutical company. “There is undoubtedly a financial motivation,” he said—and there could be millions on the line.
BY DIANA FALZONE
APRIL 24, 2020

The race to develop a COVID-19 vaccine is well underway, but given its extended timeline—12 to 18 months—the search for an existing drug to treat the virus is almost equally pressing. For many on the right, including the president, the method of choice was hydroxychloroquine, a malaria drug initially thought to combat the infection. But with a damning study out showing the drug is basically ineffective, and in fact may lead to increased death rates, even Fox News has quietly dispensed with that theory.

In New Haven, meanwhile, Dr. Joseph Vinetz, an infectious disease doctor at Yale School of Medicine, is seeking to launch a clinical study of the drug camostat mesylate, a generic medication approved in Japan to treat chronic pancreatitis that he hopes can be approved and marketed to treat COVID-19. If the trial succeeds, he said, this could be ”a total game changer.” But the process is proving fraught. Within hours of registering his trial on a National Institutes of Health website on April 20, he received an email from a large U.S. pharmaceutical company. “They are trying to take my project and engulf it for their proprietary [financial] gain,” Vinetz told me. “I take that email as a threat.”

Unlike hydroxychloroquine, camostat is a drug researchers believe may have promising effects on COVID-19. It’s also being studied in countries including Germany and Denmark. “The virus that causes COVID-19 requires a protein to get inside of the cells that line the respiratory tract,” Vinetz explained. In test tubes and in mice, he said, camostat has been shown to inhibit an enzyme that allows the virus to enter those cells. Another published experiment showed that camostat prevented mice from dying of the SARS virus. As of yet, there’s no data that shows how it could impact the novel coronavirus in humans. But if Vinetz’s study is successful, he hopes camostat can be administered both to infected COVID-19 patients and as a preventative.

The drug is manufactured in Japan; Ono Pharmaceutical, a massive company headquartered in Osaka, has committed to providing enough camostat pills for 300 patients over the course of Vinetz’s study. All he needs is FDA approval for the trial and his staff can begin testing. “We will be enrolling patients to come in daily for a swab test, receive medication, provide a symptom survey to ensure safety, and to look at any improvement [or lack thereof] after the drug or placebo is given,” he explained. “We will be closely following all participants, including looking at their oxygen levels by pulse oximeter to make sure that they do not need to be hospitalized.”

The email Vinetz received on April 20, after he registered the trial, threatened to throw a wrench in proceedings. In the email, a copy of which was reviewed by the Hive, a representative for a large pharmaceutical company wrote that the company was itself “exploring the opportunity with BARDA,” the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority, “and others to conduct clinical trials testing camostat mesylate in COVID-19,” and noted that it has an “open IND,” essentially a permission slip from the FDA to conduct a clinical trial. The email proposed that Vinetz, who has applied for an IND but has not yet received it, would need access to data the company has received through its IND, and that he’d need a letter of authorization from the company to get it. “We would appreciate gaining a better understanding of your study,” the email continued, proposing a call to discuss the matter.

Vinetz said he interpreted the email to mean “you have to go through us.” “They seem to want me to have to work under their authorization,” he said. “I viewed it as a threatening email,” he reiterated. “There is undoubtedly a financial motivation.” He theorized that the company might be hoping to get camostat designated as an orphan drug. The Orphan Drug Act, which Congress passed in 1983, uses financial incentives to encourage the development of drugs that treat rare diseases. Among other things, said Dr. Marion Mass, a Philadelphia-based pediatrician and cofounder of Practicing Physicians of America, the act gives drug makers seven-year market exclusivity (meaning no other company can advertise the same version of the drug), a 50% tax credit on the cost of conducting clinical testing, and access to grants to conduct that testing.
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Jimdamick

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I have spent over 2 weeks now trying to find out where my relief money was from the IRS (never got it), but when I contacted them for help, I found out there will be no online/voice help because the call centers are shut down due to the Virus.
I'm not especially concerned because my wife is a city employee as a teacher and has a guaranteed income & I'm retired & get my monthly check from Social Security, plus I sell herb (demand is way up), so we're really not hurting at the moment.
But, I just think of the millions of people that needed that $1200 which actually won't pay for more than rent/mortgage/food/utilities for a month.
Then, imagine trying to get unemployment today during this fucking mess.
I was unemployed during the Great Recession for a time (That's when I started to grow seriously) and it took me a month after jumping through hoops before I saw a dime.

I don't blame Trump for the Virus, only his lackadaisical response to it, and millions of people are suffering as a result & ten's of thousands are dying because of his fucking stupidity.

Six more months before we can change direction, but by then he will have, with the complicity of his fellow Republicans, will have destroyed the America as we once knew it, and that's a sad fucking fact.
 

UncleBuck

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I have spent over 2 weeks now trying to find out where my relief money was from the IRS (never got it), but when I contacted them for help, I found out there will be no online/voice help because the call centers are shut down due to the Virus.
I'm not especially concerned because my wife is a city employee as a teacher and has a guaranteed income & I'm retired & get my monthly check from Social Security, plus I sell herb (demand is way up), so we're really not hurting at the moment.
But, I just think of the millions of people that needed that $1200 which actually won't pay for more than rent/mortgage/food/utilities for a month.
Then, imagine trying to get unemployment today during this fucking mess.
I was unemployed during the Great Recession for a time (That's when I started to grow seriously) and it took me a month after jumping through hoops before I saw a dime.

I don't blame Trump for the Virus, only his lackadaisical response to it, and millions of people are suffering as a result & ten's of thousands are dying because of his fucking stupidity.

Six more months before we can change direction, but by then he will have, with the complicity of his fellow Republicans, will have destroyed the America as we once knew it, and that's a sad fucking fact.
I applied for pua after waiting a month for the state to even set it up. Another 4-6 weeks before they send any money

so 2 and a half months from work stoppage to financial relief. I feel sorry for anyone who isn’t able to weather that shit.

trump sucks so fucking bad he can’t even hand out money. What a fat stupid tard
 

crisnpropa

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I read 2 articles this morning about COVID-19 that made me shake my head, as if I needed more of an incentive.

One being that the poor have 2 weeks in NYC to pick up their loved ones bodies or they will be buried in a Potters Field on Harts Island due too overload.


Then that cocksucker acutally injected politics into this tragedy and blames Blue states for the their problems dealing with the Virus, implying that he's going to follow McConnell's lead and allow the States that are run by Democrats to go broke.


Jesus Christ Almighty, what have we done by electing this POS?
We got what we deserved.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I kinda like Cuomo's take on this shit, he's cut out for this particular leadership role, I can imagine why Donald might fear this guy, he should!
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Gov. Cuomo RIPS stay-at-home protestors DURING their protest
 

Fogdog

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I applied for pua after waiting a month for the state to even set it up. Another 4-6 weeks before they send any money

so 2 and a half months from work stoppage to financial relief. I feel sorry for anyone who isn’t able to weather that shit.

trump sucks so fucking bad he can’t even hand out money. What a fat stupid tard
His rich toadies had their money moments after he signed the bill. Billions were given out within days.
 
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