PJ Diaz
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How much 730 did you add for each 96?
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hybridway2
Amare Shill
JSB99
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JSB99
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Do the QB96s come with the clear cover for the front, or is that something you added?
JSB99
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I was looking for the QB96 V1, but not having any luck. Which are more preferred, the QB96 V2 Elite, or the QB288 V2?
How about the QB288 V1? They're only $29/ea! Thinking about 2 x 3 QB288 V1s, with a UV and IR strip in between? Any recommendations on what strips I should use?
QB288 V1 Quantum Board
Ultra High Efficiency LED Boards for DIY. QB288 has 288pcs Samsung 561C for 5000K or Lumileds 2835HE for 3000K
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PJ Diaz
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I haven't seen any v1 QB96's myself. Yeah the 288 v1's are very cheap now, I got one myself for veg, but they lack red diodes. If you consider that adding heatsinks to the 288's will double the cost, you're really looking at $60/panel for the v1's (including heatsink). Since the QB96's include the heatsink for $70 total and also have red diodes in addition to the white diodes, it seems like a better deal. Also you could crank the QB96's up to 200watts each, but the 288's max out at 160watts.I was looking for the QB96 V1, but not having any luck. Which are more preferred, the QB96 V2 Elite, or the QB288 V2?
How about the QB288 V1? They're only $29/ea! Thinking about 2 x 3 QB288 V1s, with a UV and IR strip in between? Any recommendations on what strips I should use?
QB288 V1 Quantum Board
Ultra High Efficiency LED Boards for DIY. QB288 has 288pcs Samsung 561C for 5000K or Lumileds 2835HE for 3000K
Barristan Whitebeard
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The Version 1 QB96 was a strip with 96 LM561C diodes. It is still on Horticulture Lighting Group's All Products page, although it is sold as an HLG 40, seedling and cloning fixture. It's also sold out.
This is for a 4x4, right?
How were you going to run/power the 6? Three 320h-2800, with two QB96 in series, and three fixtures? If you did parallel with a 320h-54 you could do that as well, but you could also add a third QB96 to each (or either) of those fixtures and run it at the same power, it'd just be a little more even coverage. I'm pretty sure...
He probably has the actual "HLG 360 Elite" fixture, it's water proof and that jazz.
The QB96 Elite V2 with heatsink combo, spectrum is way better than anything just plain white led, including the 288 V2. I don't think that's even an opinion at this pointI was looking for the QB96 V1, but not having any luck. Which are more preferred, the QB96 V2 Elite, or the QB288 V2?
How about the QB288 V1? They're only $29/ea! Thinking about 2 x 3 QB288 V1s, with a UV and IR strip in between? Any recommendations on what strips I should use?
QB288 V1 Quantum Board
Ultra High Efficiency LED Boards for DIY. QB288 has 288pcs Samsung 561C for 5000K or Lumileds 2835HE for 3000K
If you open a tab for each of the two boards (board only) and combo kit (board and heatsink only). Choose whatever 288 V1 or V2 spectrum your considering (3000k I guess) to the 96E V2 spectrum. Compare the specs (max current, etc).
The splayed pin heatsinks also cool more efficiently than fin heatsinks, air passes through them in all directions. QB96 w/heatsink is very flexible in use. Definitely an upgrade to the 288 V2 spectrum. It's closer to the Rspec spectrum. The QB96 w/heatsink price is great.
Like @PJ Diaz, I'd probably use 288 V1s in 4000k for "veg", if I needed a high blue for keeping real short plants. But the QB96 has a nice blue spike that, from everything I've seen and heard (not on this forum) they veg excellent, no first hand experience with them in veg yet.
I do love the low profile of the QB288, and the spaced out didoes/board. I like the form factor. The QB288 V3 are out in the near future, have you considered that as well?
JSB99
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I was going to have 2, 3xQB each on an hlg-320h-c1750. Yes, in a 4x4 tent.
JSB99
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Okay, so what I'm thinking then is, 2 x 3 QB96 Elite V2, each powered by an hlg-320h-c1750. Is that the correct driver? I'm thinking about getting a couple of triple QB heatsinks, instead of the individual ones. I like the low profile. Are the pre-drilled mounting holes the same as the QB288s?
Barristan Whitebeard
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A better driver for that wattage would be
the HLG-320H-54(A,B or AB).
Barristan Whitebeard
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Or you could fit two QB96 Elite on an HLG-320H-C2800. Your first choice will work if you want your QB96 Elite amperage to stay under 2 amps per board. Lower wattage per board potential and higher efficacy.
No, the specs and details are for the SSTX heatsinks. The holes are different. Everything's different. I don't think that's a good idea.
^This.
Why do you want to wire series with a c1750? I'd have to look at data sheet (or it might be on HLGs guide page, check that page out)
I'd do a 320h-54 (B, or AB), then you can do two, or three per driver.
(EDIT)
The constant voltage drivers will give you the most versatility. You can get two and do what you want, with two or three qb each, then add a third driver and reconfigure pairings if you want. You can put one, or all of them on one single RapidLED cased potentiometer for dimming (not with the A-type driver) or use a dimmer for each fixture. You will probably want dimming, it's a great feature to have (accessible, not with a little screwdriver in a hole).
-Although you can do series-parallel configs with constant current drivers.
hybridway2
Amare Shill
Theyre spectrum testing started long before they became a company. The owner was a grower whom tested everything. Once he found the closest to optimal he could execute, he did in his first lights back in "14". When they invented the Mono/Cob Array. No test results from the company were released that i know of @ that point. Just the sciences behind it vaguely on the site & a little more in depth to me personally. Tons of documented results & never any complaints.
They lack advertising & NEED to finish the new website. The existing was a temporary site 2 yrs ago & still needs updating. Ugh!
That is why there is a lack of info.
I would Not use IR diodes for the sake of warming the plant but fir photosynthesis, morphology & Emerson Effect.
There should be no need to heat your plants beyond what you're Controlled environment is. Led is just as hot as vented HPS. Even more when your hps Ballasts are outside the room & the led drivers are mounted to a hot led. So, all that heating the plant stuff is a fallacy to me.
True, leaf temp will be 1-2•F below ambient vs 5-7• above. We make other adjustments for that. Its a learning curve for many.
This is just a matter of Radiant vs Ambient.
If your leds lack ir & your room is cold in the winter then an hps bulb wouldn't hurt.
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hillbill
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@hybridway2 do you have a cmh
Couch_Lock
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Ask ppl that own Quantum boards and DIY. Hybridway is a pimp for Amare. Another guy here talks about BudgetLED in every post. Its easy to see who gets freebies.
hybridway2
Amare Shill
I use x4 @ 636w over a 4x4 & that's plenty.
The Covers over the diodes come factory stocked on prebuilt units & are important to me. Although a defective one may slide by & fade.
I would not run them harder then 160w each. That keeps you around 2.0+ umol/j. Anything higher then that & your getting into lower efficiency then 2020 has to offer.
Personally, i like the 96's over the 288's.
Added IR strips would be a nice touch.
hybridway2
Amare Shill
Dude, you're trippin. I speak the truth only. Freebie Deez Nuts homie.
Yes, i am a Pimp. How'd you know?
Thats why ALL other companies including HLG are incorporating Amares spectrum little by little.
Sure, ask poeple who Do Not Know & have No experience. Lol!
That was a good one!
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hybridway2
Amare Shill
I wish, naw, i have Hortrilux Daylight Blue 600w MH's though. And CHPS.
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