Need to buy a new car for my wife...

[tangerinegreen555]

Ehh, the difference where I'm at only appears to be a couple hundred at most. The wife wants a sunroof and can't be talked out of it. No matter how many times I tell her that they're completely fucking useless. So that package adds like 2k to any car.

And when the sunroof actuator part breaks, it's a $1200 gig. Or just $200 to make it flip up an inch for ventilation.

Just remember this, no matter what you buy, Murphy's law always applies.



As I sit here trying to warm up my frozen door handle so the door will close.

Recalled twice already, has to go in for a third time for 5 to 6 hours again. Door will open but won't close until it's fucking thawed. Takes 15 minutes to thaw, have to run engine, direct the hot air vent towards door.

My old F-150 which I had for over 10 years never froze one time. This one freezes every time it gets into the lower 20's. I've already lost 14 hours of my life waiting on it at the dealer. That includes 2 hours to fix the paint chip and scratches they put on the door the first time they took it apart.

PS, I bought it off an old school buddy who is a salesman there, asked for him specifically. So that's not an asset except for shooting the breeze about the old days while you're signing papers.

Hopefully the third time is a charm and the meathead who works on it doesn't scratch it up this time. I'm tempted to surround the door handles with blue painter's tape.

Always something, count on it.

 

[BarnBuster]

 

[rkymtnman]

I heard it translated to people's car..

mechanics dream.
if you don't mind the crappy engines and the electrical issues, they are fantastic. lol.

 

[curious2garden]

I heard it translated to people's car...

Isn't a single bad car in the whole VW group family. Vw, Audi, Porsche, can't go wrong. Built like little tanks, never breaks, ez to work on, cheap like borsh, drive very gud.

/Thread

You obviously do not work on them or regulate automotive repair dealers. That is true for the Golf and the VW's from the earlier years. Recent VW is scheisse as @rkymtnman stated. Not to mention the cheating on the emissions sytems that VW and Audi were guilty of.

 

[cannabineer]

I heard it translated to people's car...

Isn't a single bad car in the whole VW group family. Vw, Audi, Porsche, can't go wrong. Built like little tanks, never breaks, ez to work on, cheap like borsh, drive very gud.

/Thread

But you have to have tiny hands to do any work on them.

 

[rkymtnman]

You obviously do not work on them or regulate automotive repair dealers. That is true for the Golf and the VW's from the earlier years. Recent VW is scheisse as @rkymtnman stated. Not to mention the cheating on the emissions sytems that VW and Audi were guilty of.

I loved my 91 GTI. fun to drive and quick. but i'd never buy a newer VW like you said.

 

[curious2garden]

I loved my 91 GTI. fun to drive and quick. but i'd never buy a newer VW like you said.

My son had one from that era it was a really good car. He finally sold it to a friend who is still driving it!

 

[shrxhky420]

But you have to have tiny hands to do any work on them.

So Trump would be the perfect mechanic?

Sorry, I'll take it to politics.

SH420

 

[neosapien]

All the options you have laid out in the OP are shit. Get yourself some VW goodness. A golf is a much better car than any of the garbage listed in the OP.

Volkswagen huh? Aren't they the company that used the concentration camp slaves in the Jewish holocaust to build their cars? No thanks,

 

[cannabineer]

Volkswagen huh? Aren't they the company that used the concentration camp slaves in the Jewish holocaust to build their cars? No thanks,

You know it’s bad when going to Third World child labor is an improvement.

 

[Laughing Grass]

Ehh, the difference where I'm at only appears to be a couple hundred at most. The wife wants a sunroof and can't be talked out of it. No matter how many times I tell her that they're completely fucking useless. So that package adds like 2k to any car.

Have you considered honda? I absolutely love my cr-v and it has a moon roof so you can look up and see the snow piling up! It's similarly priced to the sportage.

 

[BarnBuster]

As I sit here trying to warm up my frozen door handle so the door will close.

I really feel for you Tangie, had a Nissan that did the exact same thing with driver's door (with no fix offered by dealership) except I cleaned ALL the grease off the latch and lubed with silicone oil. That's fixed it for a couple of years. I see the problem has been ongoing with Ford Trucks for a few years and no real fix, sucks.

2015+ Frozen Door Latch TSB/ Recall- UPDATED THREAD - Ford F150 Forum - Community of Ford Truck Fans

2015 - 2020 Ford F150 - 2015+ Frozen Door Latch TSB/ Recall- UPDATED THREAD - This thread will be a condensed help for those that are running into this door latch issue. For ALL of the old information, posts, comments going back to 2016, see the thread linked below....

www.f150forum.com

Field Service Action --18N03 - Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums

2017 - 2022 Super Duty - Field Service Action --18N03 - FSA Title: DOOR LATCH FREEZING CONCERNS Field Service Action Number: 18N03 Did anyone else receive this notice? I just got it today via FordPass. Kind of sounds like previous posts I've read on here about doors freezing up during really...

www.ford-trucks.com

Customer Satisfaction Program 18N03 – Door Latch Freezing Concerns – 2015-2018 Ford F-150 & 2017-2018 F-250-F-550 | Ford

NHTSA ID Number: 10168821 Manufacturer Communication Number: 18N03-S7 Summary Customer Satisfaction Program 18N03 - Supplement #7 Certain 2015-2018 Model Year F-150 and 2017-2018 Model Year F-250-F

ford.oemdtc.com

 

[sandman83]

Ehh, the difference where I'm at only appears to be a couple hundred at most. The wife wants a sunroof and can't be talked out of it. No matter how many times I tell her that they're completely fucking useless. So that package adds like 2k to any car.

Good luck man, some fights are worth it, others it's just easier to compromise. I was pleasantly surprised with the 'carvana' experience compared to the last few dealerships I used. Too soon to tell as we've only had the vehicle a few months but so far so good and I'd use again.

 

[tangerinegreen555]

I really feel for you Tangie, had a Nissan that did the exact same thing with driver's door (with no fix offered by dealership) except I cleaned ALL the grease off the latch and lubed with silicone oil. That's fixed it for a couple of years. I see the problem has been ongoing with Ford Trucks for a few years and no real fix, sucks.

2015+ Frozen Door Latch TSB/ Recall- UPDATED THREAD - Ford F150 Forum - Community of Ford Truck Fans

2015 - 2020 Ford F150 - 2015+ Frozen Door Latch TSB/ Recall- UPDATED THREAD - This thread will be a condensed help for those that are running into this door latch issue. For ALL of the old information, posts, comments going back to 2016, see the thread linked below....

www.f150forum.com

Field Service Action --18N03 - Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums

2017 - 2022 Super Duty - Field Service Action --18N03 - FSA Title: DOOR LATCH FREEZING CONCERNS Field Service Action Number: 18N03 Did anyone else receive this notice? I just got it today via FordPass. Kind of sounds like previous posts I've read on here about doors freezing up during really...

www.ford-trucks.com

Customer Satisfaction Program 18N03 – Door Latch Freezing Concerns – 2015-2018 Ford F-150 & 2017-2018 F-250-F-550 | Ford

NHTSA ID Number: 10168821 Manufacturer Communication Number: 18N03-S7 Summary Customer Satisfaction Program 18N03 - Supplement #7 Certain 2015-2018 Model Year F-150 and 2017-2018 Model Year F-250-F

ford.oemdtc.com

Yeah, one of the problems is that it gets warmer for 8 months and everything goes on the back burner. The second fix was right before spring so you don't know if it took or not until it gets cold again.

They are installing a redesigned something or other in there to drain the water before it freezes. The second fix just involved a ton of grey grease shot in there the same color as my truck.

I suppose that's why there was grease all over the damn thing by the door handles that got on my hands and jacket. The quality of workmanship isn't what it was when I entered the job market. They should treat vehicles they work on like they own them.

 

[cannabineer]

... They should treat vehicles they work on like they own them.

They do, I fear.

 

[neosapien]

Any advantage of leasing over financing? To me it just appears another fine example of the throw away culture to get a new car every 3 years.

 

[neosapien]

Have you considered honda? I absolutely love my cr-v and it has a moon roof so you can look up and see the snow piling up! It's similarly priced to the sportage.

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I have nothing against Honda. They made the motor in my lawnmower and it has been reliable. But looking at them around here, it seems they're about $5k more than the comparable Impreza.

 

[rkymtnman]

Yeah, one of the problems is that it gets warmer for 8 months and everything goes on the back burner. The second fix was right before spring so you don't know if it took or not until it gets cold again.

They are installing a redesigned something or other in there to drain the water before it freezes. The second fix just involved a ton of grey grease shot in there the same color as my truck.

I suppose that's why there was grease all over the damn thing by the door handles that got on my hands and jacket. The quality of workmanship isn't what it was when I entered the job market. They should treat vehicles they work on like they own them.

is this problem only on the f150 models? i've been looking at a similar year(s) f250/350 but i haven't heard about this problem.

and while i got ya, do you do much towing with yours?

 

[dannyboy602]

I like my Civic. I bought it way used but its just a solid motor.

 

[rkymtnman]

Any advantage of leasing over financing? To me it just appears another fine example of the throw away culture to get a new car every 3 years.

what's that subie commercial say? more 10 yr old subies on the road still vs any other brand i think.