Biden/Warren vs. Trump/whoever 2020

Who would you vote for:

  • Biden/Warren

    Votes: 10 76.9%

  • Trump/Whoever

    Votes: 3 23.1%
  • Total voters
    13
hanimmal

hanimmal

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Biden is the only known candidate in 2020 that I believe is not going to trigger as many social land-mines that Trump online propaganda trolls have flooded us with, as any other candidate could. This will help the Democrats to have the best chance at winning the House (so they can continue the investigations to root out all of this Russian/Foreign government election mess) and Senate (So that Mitch does not just continue to obstruct legislation into foreign attacks on our country and the voting rights of its citizens).

Anyone else is set up to trigger way too many people throughout the country in key spots (thanks to Trump giving the Russians our voter data in 2015) to be the frontrunner.

Warren has been really on point, and she does have a chance to take out Biden for the Democratic nominee, but she might fall into trouble with winning over the portion of men that will vote for Trump over her too much in those close senate/congress seats. But as a VP, she can continue to run her message for the next 4 years, then run for president. She can help Biden push to win the presidency with her very strong ideas in many areas, Biden wins with his healthcare bill, but Warren can help bring in the medicare for all crowd with some wonky plan to get the last 8% of Americans that are still not covered I am sure.

She can basically be what Sarah Palin did for McCain, bring in the 'base' voters because she is a very good candidate (not comparing her qualifications to Palin, just the energy level). They can get Trump out of office and into Mueller's waiting car in January 2017 and the world can see what actually happened in a trial. It might not be Pence as President if Trump pulls off the win, it could be anyone the republicans would be willing to impeach Trump for if Republicans win senate and president.

And then in 4 years after this Russian (or any other bad actor) election interference is lit up, whatever is left of the Democratic and Republican party can run in 2024 and Biden can retire for good. And we can deal with real problems without all the nonsense that has been building ever since whatever law let hate radio and 'entertainment political news' become legal. The internet broke that when people can be pinpointed and have propaganda and foreign trolls following you around because an algorithm figured out what you would fall for based on all of your online data. All because Trump has once again asked for it to happen.
 
hanimmal

hanimmal

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Oh, and if Biden is in any way dirty, you know the Democrats won't hesitate in impeaching him too. The Democratic party is the Not Only Wealthy White Heterosexual Males, it is not as united behind anyone that doesn't prove themselves to be good at what they do as the Republicans are having really only one major voting base that they legislate for.
 
TacoMac

TacoMac

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doublejj said:
your wrong.....nothing to prevent him from being VP.....please quit being wrong
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*you're*

No, he can't.

In the event of the president's death, the vice president instantly becomes president. That is forbidden for Obama to do under the constitution, so he can't serve as Vice President for that reason.

However, there is no limit on terms you can serve as Vice President. You can quite literally serve as vice president as long as you're on the winning ticket.

But since Obama has already served as president for two terms, he can never again be in a position to obtain the presidency, so he is excluded from ever serving as Vice President.
 
TacoMac

TacoMac

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Do you ever live in reality?

It's amazing you've lived this long in a complete fantasy world of utter make believe and falsehoods.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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TacoMac said:
I think Beto is done. He has the charisma of a wet towel.

The guy lost to Ted Cruz for Christ's sake.

And Casto made a complete ass of himself in the last debate. He's done.
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Beto gets the loudest applause of any candidate due to his gun control policy. And if he performed nationally like he did in Texas he’d get 330+ evs all by himself

No one cares what Castro said in one debate 4 months before iowa
 
hanimmal

hanimmal

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UncleBuck said:
Beto gets the loudest applause of any candidate due to his gun control policy. And if he performed nationally like he did in Texas he’d get 330+ evs all by himself

No one cares what Castro said in one debate 4 months before iowa
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Too green. I like the dude from what little I have seen, but we got lucky that Obama was really great at his job, this is not that kind of moment for me. There is too much at stake.

I think the troll against Castro would be something aimed at suburban white women along with the white guys. Use that underlying angst that their kids are going to run into,the 'build the wall' heart strings.
 
PokerJay83

PokerJay83

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hanimmal said:
Biden is the only known candidate in 2020 that I believe is not going to trigger as many social land-mines that Trump online propaganda trolls have flooded us with, as any other candidate could. This will help the Democrats to have the best chance at winning the House (so they can continue the investigations to root out all of this Russian/Foreign government election mess) and Senate (So that Mitch does not just continue to obstruct legislation into foreign attacks on our country and the voting rights of its citizens).

Anyone else is set up to trigger way too many people throughout the country in key spots (thanks to Trump giving the Russians our voter data in 2015) to be the frontrunner.
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Respectfully disagree. I think Biden is by far the worst of the candidates on the left. A complete establishment figure. Let’s not forget that he authored the patriot act. He’s often rambling about nonsensical stuff and doesn’t appear to be all there. I don’t think he could debate trump off the cuff and he has baggage with the whole hair sniffing stuff. Would much rather see a Bernie/warren ticket or vise versa. They have stuck to their guns over the years on challenging the banks and addressing income inequality. Problem is will the media give them airtime? Bernie imo got completely railroaded by the dnc in 2016. Shut out by the media and people voted for Hillary in primaries because CNN told them to. Warren and Bernie seem to have their heart in it imo.

The whole Trump collusion thing to me is a sham. Obama holdovers within intel concocted this halfwit plan. Russia’s GDP is 1/10th ours. The Russian collusion I believe was invented to divert from the massive blow from the Wikileaks drops. I do not believe Russia hacked the dnc as it was most likely Seth Rich who uploaded to thumb drives. Ray McGovern agrees. The NSA has been tracking all emails/phone calls since the 90’s and has them stored in massive data collections. They could have easily pulled the records within weeks but there was nothing there. If there was any collusion it most likely involved rich Russian oligarchs and Chabad Lubavitche via Felix Sater. I think you have it wrong on Russians provided our voting data? The entire voting data and marketing plan was given to trump via crypto analytics via the UK. Based mostly off of Facebook and google data.

Here is an interesting book I just picked up which supposedly points to the real collusion being a Saudi/Israeli network and not so much Russia. I’ll see if my opinions change after reading.

Oh btw Yang? I like him, but ideas very far out.
 

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hanimmal

hanimmal

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PokerJay83 said:
Respectfully disagree. I think Biden is by far the worst of the candidates on the left. A complete establishment figure. Let’s not forget that he authored the patriot act. He’s often rambling about nonsensical stuff and doesn’t appear to be all there. I don’t think he could debate trump off the cuff and he has baggage with the whole hair sniffing stuff. Would much rather see a Bernie/warren ticket or vise versa. They have stuck to their guns over the years on challenging the banks and addressing income inequality. Problem is will the media give them airtime? Bernie imo got completely railroaded by the dnc in 2016. Shut out by the media and people voted for Hillary in primaries because CNN told them to. Warren and Bernie seem to have their heart in it imo.

The whole Trump collusion thing to me is a sham. Obama holdovers within intel concocted this halfwit plan. Russia’s GDP is 1/10th ours. The Russian collusion I believe was invented to divert from the massive blow from the Wikileaks drops. I do not believe Russia hacked the dnc as it was most likely Seth Rich who uploaded to thumb drives. Ray McGovern agrees. The NSA has been tracking all emails/phone calls since the 90’s and has them stored in massive data collections. They could have easily pulled the records within weeks but there was nothing there. If there was any collusion it most likely involved rich Russian oligarchs and Chabad Lubavitche via Felix Sater. I think you have it wrong on Russians provided our voting data? The entire voting data and marketing plan was given to trump via crypto analytics via the UK. Based mostly off of Facebook and google data.

Here is an interesting book I just picked up which supposedly points to the real collusion being a Saudi/Israeli network and not so much Russia. I’ll see if my opinions change after reading.

Oh btw Yang? I like him, but ideas very far out.
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I am stunned at the amount of propaganda you have produced in this one post. I might go through one by one later on, but at this point, it's too early.



I can't wait for this to get all out into the open so I can stop paying attention....
 
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