Biden/Warren vs. Trump/whoever 2020

Who would you vote for:

  • Biden/Warren

    Votes: 10 76.9%

  • Trump/Whoever

    Votes: 3 23.1%
  • Total voters
    13
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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I don't think Warren would be on a ticket with Biden. Healthcare is going to be the main issue debated and what will differentiate the candidates. That will get Biden elected if anything and he knows it. Warren is setting herself up for failure by dodging the question of how to pay for her plan. She should just own her intention to raise taxes on the middle class and try to convince us all of the merit of it, just as Mayor Pete says. She's leaving herself wide open to slow and drawn out attack that will be hard to recover from because she's seemed to avoid criticism thus far and her numbers are growing. Biden would rather have her as a primary opponent than a running mate. If he can Buttigieg, Harris or Booker to run with him he will win.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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PokerJay83 said:
Well at least we can agree that trump is a piece of garbage. But from my perception it did not go down the way you are describing. Not nearly. Would love for you to try to debunk Seth rich or refute anything in the above posted video with Ray McGovern. So Russia had paid trolls.. who cares. I’m on fb all the time and don’t recall even seeing the memes. And Americans didn’t need photoshopped pictures of Satan as Hillary arm wrestling Jesus to get them to not vote for Hillary. Many Bernie supporters like myself were aware he got railroaded and all together she was just a horrible candidate. I think it’s laughable that we are debating Mueller and Russian collusion when mueller had involvement in selling off 40% of our uranium supply to Russia.

As far as banks? Nothing fanatical about banks not wanting to support a candidate who is fighting against income inequality imho.
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Woops

I just read this.

Scratch my earlier posts to you. They were written giving you the benefit of the doubt. This post from you proves you didn't deserve that.

Seth Rich for example. No, I don't have to prove Clinton didn't murder him. What a ridiculous position to take. That is a fake new story from the get-go. I suppose you'll next bring up Comet Ping-Pong.

Do you know who will care about Putin's paid trolls? Russia will. Trump is delaying the implementation of sanctions against Russia for that. Once he's out of the way, those sanctions will bite. It is too bad that most of the people who will be affected had nothing to do with Putin's illegitimate win in an election but they will just have to take it in the ass for it. I hope your grandmother doesn't die because of the sanctions that Putin brought onto Russia and tanked their economy.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
abandonconflict said:
I don't think Warren would be on a ticket with Biden. Healthcare is going to be the main issue debated and what will differentiate the candidates. That will get Biden elected if anything and he knows it. Warren is setting herself up for failure by dodging the question of how to pay for her plan. She should just own her intention to raise taxes on the middle class and try to convince us all of the merit of it, just as Mayor Pete says. She's leaving herself wide open to slow and drawn out attack that will be hard to recover from because she's seemed to avoid criticism thus far and her numbers are growing. Biden would rather have her as a primary opponent than a running mate. If he can Buttigieg, Harris or Booker to run with him he will win.
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Warren made the mistake of throwing her campaign all in on Bernie's stupid bill. She did walk back from the absolutism in Bernie's bill in February. At that time she was saying there are alternatives but later on, she decided to stick with Bernie's bill and probably lost the primary because of it. Too bad too because I think she could have been a better prez than Biden.
 
rkymtnman

rkymtnman

Well-Known Member
Fogdog said:
Warren made the mistake of throwing her campaign all in on Bernie's stupid bill
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Agreed. Bernie is like a one legged duck, just swimming in circles with ideas that a) don't go over well with the majority of Americans b)can't be paid for .

How about Biden/Obama 2020? Barack first choice as VP or Michelle as a long shot.

If Barnie throws all his supporters behind one person @Fogdog how many votes is he really bringing with him? What's a good guesstimate?
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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rkymtnman said:
Agreed. Bernie is like a one legged duck, just swimming in circles with ideas that a) don't go over well with the majority of Americans b)can't be paid for .

How about Biden/Obama 2020? Barack first choice as VP or Michelle as a long shot.

If Barnie throws all his supporters behind one person @Fogdog how many votes is he really bringing with him? What's a good guesstimate?
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My guess is about 10% of Barny voters will vote for Trump. Just like they did in the last election. Maybe another 10% won't vote. In the last election, a very high number of Bernie's supporters voted for Clinton.
 
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