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Fogdog

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Man made CO2 emissions (fossil fuels) are clearly raising the global CO2 levels, that is not disputed, and its easy to test anywhere in the world just by measuring the CO2 levels.

The part that is disputed, is that higher atmospheric CO2 causes an increase in temperature, this is what AGW theory claims, and scientifically it seems like it doesn't hold water or is a valid theory.




Global temperature records are mostly through manipulated temperature data now. Its not actual thermometer readings, they run it through their "climate change computer model" and output the temperature that corresponds with their predictions better. Hence fake science claim.

https://www.climatedepot.com/2019/02/21/analysis-climate-change-heat-records-are-a-huge-data-manipulation/
Global climate change due to increased carbon dioxide emissions is a well founded finding and the science behind that conclusion is settled. Has been settled for hundreds of years..

Paying lobbyists to claim otherwise doesn't make it disputed.
 

Fogdog

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The chronic disinformation campaign that's being executed by big business/ big money is what's destroying not just our country but also the planet. Education is key in combating this
If you look at who is denying science, the problem of climate science denial doesn't seem to be simply a matter of education. Many who may not have a high level of education get the message and grasp the facts. Others with many years experience in technical field reject the findings of climate scientists. For sure, education is part of the solution though not the entire solution. Humanity is going to have to learn more about itself too.

Climate Change Denial
Facing a reality too big to believe.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/denying-the-grave/201901/climate-change-denial

studies persistently show us that simply providing people with the facts about climate does not reliably change minds. The science that proves the earth is warming is very technical and difficult for most of us to grasp. “Humans aren’t well wired to act on complex statistical risks,” according to a Brookings Institute report. Even when the evidence about climate change is relayed in very clear terms with lots of compelling graphics, many people either don’t believe it or shrug it off. Hence, the problem of climate change denial is not simply a matter of an information gap.

we resist when
(told) that calamity is real, will be spread out over decades, and is of catastrophic proportions that can only be averted if we change almost everything about the way we live. Stop driving your car, eating meat, and flying in planes, we are told. Shut down ExxonMobil, Shell, and British Petroleum. Move quickly to build solar fields and energy-producing windmills. Simply writing that list makes us totally exhausted. What we are being asked to do will take gargantuan efforts and face vicious opposition. “Solving climate is going to be harder, and more improbable, than winning World War II, achieving civil rights, defeating bacterial infection and sending a man to the moon all together,” warn Auden Schendler and Andrew P. Jones. It is very difficult to accept as real a problem that requires this magnitude of solution.

The article ends with some solutions that basically say, "get people to participate in the solution". One reason people reject climate science is they are fearful and by active participation in solving the problem, people's fear levels go down. It could be that people like you and I have been immunized from the paralysis of fear that creates climate science deniers because we are already doing something that contributes to reducing carbon emissions.
 

Aeroknow

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Man made CO2 emissions (fossil fuels) are clearly raising the global CO2 levels, that is not disputed, and its easy to test anywhere in the world just by measuring the CO2 levels.

The part that is disputed, is that higher atmospheric CO2 causes an increase in temperature, this is what AGW theory claims, and scientifically it seems like it doesn't hold water or is a valid theory.




Global temperature records are mostly through manipulated temperature data now. Its not actual thermometer readings, they run it through their "climate change computer model" and output the temperature that corresponds with their predictions better. Hence fake science claim.

https://www.climatedepot.com/2019/02/21/analysis-climate-change-heat-records-are-a-huge-data-manipulation/
 

Budley Doright

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Yup, fell off my chair watching that. I gained a whole lot of respect for that man at that moment, pretty powerful message from the science guy everyone knows and trusts. Don’t forget, as much as myself and “most” others think, the tit you have for a president is one of those deniers and he’s got a lot of tit lickers, as sad as that is.
 

Budley Doright

Well-Known Member
Man made CO2 emissions (fossil fuels) are clearly raising the global CO2 levels, that is not disputed, and its easy to test anywhere in the world just by measuring the CO2 levels.

The part that is disputed, is that higher atmospheric CO2 causes an increase in temperature, this is what AGW theory claims, and scientifically it seems like it doesn't hold water or is a valid theory.




Global temperature records are mostly through manipulated temperature data now. Its not actual thermometer readings, they run it through their "climate change computer model" and output the temperature that corresponds with their predictions better. Hence fake science claim.

https://www.climatedepot.com/2019/02/21/analysis-climate-change-heat-records-are-a-huge-data-manipulation/
Look honey, a tit licker.
 

Skeet Kuhn Dough

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Global temperature records are mostly through manipulated temperature data now. Its not actual thermometer readings, they run it through their "climate change computer model" and output the temperature that corresponds with their predictions better. Hence fake science claim.

https://www.climatedepot.com/2019/02/21/analysis-climate-change-heat-records-are-a-huge-data-manipulation/
The website you are using for your source of information is ran by Marc Morano. He is also the author of the article for which you posted a link. It should be noted that Morano has a bachelor's degree from George Mason University in political science. He is not a scientist.

Furthermore, Climatologist Michael E. Mann has criticized Morano. At the end of 2012, Media Matters for America named Morano the "Climate Change Misinformer of the Year."

Again, my information came from NASA.

Your information is coming from a politician that has no background in science.


***If you'd like to rebuttal in the field of science, try quoting somebody that actually has a degree in science, not some retarded politician.
 

Fogdog

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The website you are using for your source of information is ran by Marc Morano. He is also the author of the article for which you posted a link. It should be noted that Morano has a bachelor's degree from George Mason University in political science. He is not a scientist.

Furthermore, Climatologist Michael E. Mann has criticized Morano. At the end of 2012, Media Matters for America named Morano the "Climate Change Misinformer of the Year."

Again, my information came from NASA.

Your information is coming from a politician that has no background in science.


***If you'd like to rebuttal in the field of science, try quoting somebody that actually has a degree in science, not some retarded politician.
Unfortunately, a phd in physics from 50 years ago doesn't qualify a rebuttal either. The climate science lobby is famous for doing just that. Their first clients were military defense contractors and they recycled their "scientist experts" through several campaigns -- tobacco, freon, climate change and now, vaping tobacco by kids.

"I'm a scientist, believe me" seems to work even when the scientist is denying science.

Its a Trump world now.

But, yeah, agree with your point and sentiment. Climate science deniers claim every disagreement is valid regardless the source or the claim.
 
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Skeet Kuhn Dough

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Unfortunately, a phd in physics from 50 years ago doesn't qualify a rebuttal either. The climate science lobby is famous for doing just that. Their first clients were military defense contractors and they recycled them through several campaigns -- tobacco, freon, climate change and now, vaping tobacco by kids.

"I'm a scientist, believe me" seems to work even when the scientist is denying science.

Its a Trump world now.

But, yeah, agree with your point and sentiment. Climate science deniers claim the every disagreement is valid regardless the source or the claim.
Certainly we can agree that carbon emissions present not just dangers in the way of global warming but an entire slew of other dangers, including risks associated with inhalation of polluted air.

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Mexico City pollution: Residents urged to stay indoors
15 May 2019

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Officials in Mexico City have declared an environmental emergency after air pollution in the Mexican capital reached levels potentially dangerous to human health.

They urged those at particular risk to stay indoors and restricted the number of cars which can be driven in the city on Wednesday.

Smoke from nearby forest fires has contributed to the spike in pollution.

The city has been wrapped in a smoky haze for days.

Mexican photographer Santiago Arau tweeted video taken from a drone showing the extent of the pollution.

Particulate matter measuring 2.5 micrometres or less, known as PM2.5, reached 158 micrograms per cubic metre of air at one measuring station on Tuesday morning, more than six times the World Health Organisation daily mean recommended limit.

PM2.5 particles are thought to be particularly damaging because they are so small, they can penetrate the deepest parts of the lungs.

More than 21 million people live in Mexico City's metropolitan area and it was once infamous for its poor air quality. Air pollution levels dropped in the late 1990s but have again been on the rise in recent years.

The city lies in a valley and when there is little wind, the air can quickly become stagnant.

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Mexico City's environmental commission advised residents to avoid outdoor activities and Mexico's first division football league postponed a match between León and Club América, which was due to be played in the capital on Wednesday.

Mayor Claudia Sheinbaum said she would consider cancelling school classes if the pollution got any worse. She said schools were already keeping their pupils indoors at break time.

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(this article is courtesy of the BBC and I do not own any rights to it. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-48279972 )
 

Fogdog

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Certainly we can agree that carbon emissions present not just dangers in the way of global warming but an entire slew of other dangers, including risks associated with inhalation of polluted air.

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Mexico City pollution: Residents urged to stay indoors
15 May 2019

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Officials in Mexico City have declared an environmental emergency after air pollution in the Mexican capital reached levels potentially dangerous to human health.

They urged those at particular risk to stay indoors and restricted the number of cars which can be driven in the city on Wednesday.

Smoke from nearby forest fires has contributed to the spike in pollution.

The city has been wrapped in a smoky haze for days.

Mexican photographer Santiago Arau tweeted video taken from a drone showing the extent of the pollution.

Particulate matter measuring 2.5 micrometres or less, known as PM2.5, reached 158 micrograms per cubic metre of air at one measuring station on Tuesday morning, more than six times the World Health Organisation daily mean recommended limit.

PM2.5 particles are thought to be particularly damaging because they are so small, they can penetrate the deepest parts of the lungs.

More than 21 million people live in Mexico City's metropolitan area and it was once infamous for its poor air quality. Air pollution levels dropped in the late 1990s but have again been on the rise in recent years.

The city lies in a valley and when there is little wind, the air can quickly become stagnant.

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Mexico City's environmental commission advised residents to avoid outdoor activities and Mexico's first division football league postponed a match between León and Club América, which was due to be played in the capital on Wednesday.

Mayor Claudia Sheinbaum said she would consider cancelling school classes if the pollution got any worse. She said schools were already keeping their pupils indoors at break time.

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(this article is courtesy of the BBC and I do not own any rights to it. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-48279972 )
An expert will be trotted out saying that the Mexico City's bad air is due to -- wait for it -- climate.

Those folks have no shame.
 
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captainmorgan

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India sure could use some bountiful rain because they are running out of water fast,the monsoon rains are late. They will run out of groundwater in 21 cities by 2020 including the capital.
 

Budley Doright

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Just read in the Toronto Star Stefan Olsen of the Danish Meteorlogical Institute stated this is pretty typical of this particular place and the ice is so thick there has been very few places melt water can drain. The problem is this type of hyperbole will feed into “its all a hoax”. Picking one particular area and using it as proof can be dangerous when it’s the planet as a whole that is showing the warming patterns. Sure is a pretty picture though ;).
 

hotrodharley

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This dumb chubette specializes in disinformation. She should have a PhD in the shit. She takes any point and researches for anything from the right refuting it. Whether it’s bullshit or not. And it’s always bullshit. Rationalization pushed to the nth degree.
 
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