Grandpapy
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That same wind "whipped" the peaches off my tree last night, 2 out of 30 are still holding on..
Bountiful Precipitation and Full Reservoirs in California
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hotrodharley
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My point when she started this stupidly titled thread is this is just a temporary thing. Climate change is absolutely real and man does have an impact. Noted years ago in studies financed by the petroleum industry. Only a stooge could deny that industry has screwed the atmosphere up.
hotrodharley
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Actually a higher count now with 2 more dead ones found at Kodiak. The Bering Sea is becoming a biological wasteland. Pink algae discovered several years ago in the Arctic Ocean. Never before. Ever. But it’s all good according to Chevron and goddamned “investors” concerned ONLY about receiving a healthy return on their money.
doublejj
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We’re Into June But 150 Lakes in the Tahoe Basin are Still FROZEN
https://snowbrains.com/150-tahoe-lakes-still-frozen/
https://snowbrains.com/150-tahoe-lakes-still-frozen/
squarepush3r
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Climate Change and Global Warming and AGW are real!! I read it on the New York Times!!We’re Into June But 150 Lakes in the Tahoe Basin are Still FROZEN
https://snowbrains.com/150-tahoe-lakes-still-frozen/
TacoMac
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Meanwhile, it will hit 103 degrees in Sacremento today...an area with an average high this time of year of 89 degrees. Charleston, South Carolina had 4 days straight of 100 degree heat two weeks ago when the average temperature that time of year is 84.
But yeah. Nothing to see here.
But yeah. Nothing to see here.
squarepush3r
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stupid people like you are exactly who the media targets and thrives off. Btw, you could drive over to Mammoth and get some good skiing in if you wanted right now
captainmorgan
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More like this is what you say to the mirror every day.
Unclebaldrick
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It seems like a bigger and bigger segment of our population has chosen to give their brains (to the extent that they had any - which might really be the problem) over to fake news and conspiracy theories. To these people, there is no nuance, contradiction or subtlety that cannot be used to derail their tenuous grasp of logic.
For right now, this remains one country but it seems pretty clear that there is a cultural/intellectual divide forming that is ripping it into pieces.
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Grandpapy
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Does the oil lobby provide you this info?
I bet you turn on lights as you leave a room because you trust exxon to advance your algae stock.
UncleBuck
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You are small and stupid
Unclebaldrick
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Well put.
TacoMac
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Ummmmm.... The typical ski season at Mammoth is 250 days out of the year. It's at 11,000 feet you nimrod.
It USED to be open nearly year 'round but due to climate change has had varying seasons the last 15 years. In 2012 - 2013 ski season, they thought they were going to go bankrupt. They had to furlough many people, cut hours of the few that were left and had no snow at all over half the year.
In fact, here's a tidbit of it:
“Snowfall on Mammoth Mountain averages about 400 inches per year. We received 263 inches of snow in 2011-12, the worst year-over-year decline in visits in ski industry history."
Source: https://mammothtimes.com/content/mammoth-mountain-cuts-workers-hours-asks-five-furlough-days-february
This year is actually one of the first years in a long time they've had a NORMAL year.Source: https://mammothtimes.com/content/mammoth-mountain-cuts-workers-hours-asks-five-furlough-days-february
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captainmorgan
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Facts and science have no place in this thread, like everything else the right pushes,it's about feelings.
captainmorgan
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Scientists predict the largest ever recorded dead zone in the gulf this year, wonder how the right FEEL about this.
UncleBuck
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It will be fine
Our eternal souls can flee our corporeal entrapments and escape to kolob to inhabit the shell of some other sentient being
topcat
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As anything that doesn't validate dear leader, "fake news". "I dint see no dead zone, where's da dead zone? it's fake news, folks". Like his observation of protests in England. Instead, streets were lined waving American flags, "and yours", in honor of him. I think the "fake news" is finally beginning to wear on people that support him, even Laura Ingraham, the former male. (always check the Adams apple) That's what I heard, I'm just sayin'.
Edit: Straight from Joseph Goebbels playbook.
doublejj
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at least you finally admit the climate is changing.....that's a big first step, I'm proud of you..dead zones are from animal waste and fertilizer run off, not climate change, you absolute moron.
Glacier National Park Quietly Removes Its "Gone By 2020" Signs
This article was written by Roger I. Roots and originally published at RogerRoots.com
May 30, 2019. St. Mary, Montana.
Officials at Glacier National Park (GNP) have begun quietly removing and altering signs and government literature which told visitors that the Park’s glaciers were all expected to disappear by either 2020 or 2030.
In recent years the National Park Service prominently featured brochures, signs and films which boldly proclaimed that all glaciers at GNP were melting away rapidly. But now officials at GNP seem to be scrambling to hide or replace their previous hysterical claims while avoiding any notice to the public that the claims were inaccurate. Teams from Lysander Spooner University visiting the Park each September have noted that GNP’s most famous glaciers such as the Grinnell Glacier and the Jackson Glacier appear to have been growing - not shrinking - since about 2010. (The Jackson Glacier—easily seen from the Going-To-The-Sun Highway—may have grown as much as 25% or more over the past decade.)
The centerpiece of the visitor center at St. Mary near the east boundary is a large three-dimensional diorama showing lights going out as the glaciers disappear. Visitors press a button to see the diorama lit up like a Christmas tree in 1850, then showing fewer and fewer lights until the diorama goes completely dark. As recently as September 2018 the diorama displayed a sign saying GNP’s glaciers were expected to disappear completely by 2020.
Video of the diorama two years ago.
But at some point during this past winter (as the visitor center was closed to the public), workers replaced the diorama’s ‘gone by 2020’ engraving with a new sign indicating the glaciers will disappear in “future generations.”
Video of the diorama in May 2019.
Almost everywhere, the Park’s specific claims of impending glacier disappearance have been replaced with more nuanced messaging indicating that everyone agrees that the glaciers are melting. Some signs indicate that glacial melt is “accelerating.”
A common trick used by the National Park Service at GNP is to display old black-and-white photos of glaciers from bygone years (say, “1922”) next to photos of the same glaciers taken in more recent years showing the glaciers much diminished (say, “2006”). Anyone familiar with glaciers in the northern Rockies knows that glaciers tend to grow for nine months each winter and melt for three months each summer. Thus, such photo displays without precise calendar dates may be highly deceptive.
Last year the Park Service quietly removed its two large steel trash cans at the Many Glacier Hotel which depicted “before and after” engravings of the Grinnell Glacier in 1910 and 2009. The steel carvings indicated that the Glacier had shrunk significantly between the two dates. But a viral video published on Wattsupwiththat.com showed that the Grinnell Glacier appears to be slightly larger than in 2009.
The ‘gone by 2020’ claims were repeated in the New York Times, National Geographic, and other international news sources. But no mainstream news outlet has done any meaningful reporting regarding the apparent stabilization and recovery of the glaciers in GNP over the past decade. Even local Montana news sources such as The Missoulian, Billings Gazette and Bozeman Daily Chronicle have remained utterly silent regarding this story.
(Note that since September 2015 the author has offered to bet anyone $5,000 that GNP’s glaciers will still exist in 2030, in contradiction to the reported scientific consensus. To this day no one has taken me up on my offer. –R.R.)
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I live very close to Glacier National Park, and while the media has been saying for years that the glaciers are "disappearing", there has been no significant change in the park's glaciers in the time I have resided here. The news above only reinforces the reality that if the climate is "changing", it is only getting colder, NOT warmer....
UncleBuck
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why have CO2 levels skyrocketed to 400+ PPM after staying between 280-320 PPM for the last 800,000+ years?
Skeet Kuhn Dough
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Global TemperatureGreat news everyone!!
https://cliffmass.blogspot.com/2019/04/bountiful-precipitation-and-full.html
It was not that long ago, that some folks were wringing their hands about drought in California, claiming that normal rains were a thing of the past. The NY Times and other outlets warned of "permanent" and "unending" drought fueled by global warming.
2013-2015 were dry years, but 2017 was extremely wet, 2018 was near normal, and 2019 is turning out to be a real soaker. The official U.S. Drought Monitor, which often lags behind facts on the ground, officially removed drought status from California this winter.
This winter, the water situation is extraordinarily good for virtually all of California, with their very large reservoir system storing much more water than normal. Let's examine the situation.
Here is the difference from normal of the accumulated precipitation over the past six months. Nearly the entire southwest U.S. was above normal, with parts of California being 8-20 inches above normal...that is a lot in California.
Water storage is everything in California, and unlike Washington State, they have multi-year storage capacity. Why? Because historically California experiences more variation between wet and dry years than the more reliably wet Pacific Northwest.
The current reservoir conditions are excellent, with all of the major reservoirs being well above normal. Some are even near capacity (e.g., San Luis and Lake Shasta).
The other major water storage system is the snowpack....and CA has a HUGE snowpack this year, averaging about 165% of normal (see below).
Streamflow? No worries. Streams are running much above normal or high over the northern portion of the state ( blue and black colors) and near normal over most of the southern half.
Surface soil moisture is above normal for most of the state (not shown).
The bottom line of all this is that California has had an extraordinarily moist winter (and a very wet March) and there will be plenty of water for the urban centers and agriculture this year.
To put things in perspective, below is the California precipitation for November-February 1920-2019 using the NOAA/NWS climate division dataset. March 2010 was not ready yet.
The first thing you notice is that there is virtually no long-term trend. Nada. There are drier years (like 2013-2015) and wetter periods. 2019 was above normal but not exceptional. If March was available, the current winter would have been one of the wetter ones.
This lack of trend in CA winter precipitation is consistent with most climate models simulations I have seen, which suggest no decline in precipitation for central and northern CA under global warming (see a sample from the UW high-resolution climate simulation project I am involved with). In fact, precipitation over the northern portion of CA might even increase.
LATEST ANNUAL AVERAGE ANOMALY:
2018
0.8 °C
This graph illustrates the change in global surface temperature relative to 1951-1980 average temperatures. Eighteen of the 19 warmest years all have occurred since 2001, with the exception of 1998. The year 2016 ranks as the warmest on record. (Source: NASA/GISS). This research is broadly consistent with similar constructions prepared by the Climatic Research Unit and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.
The time series below shows the five-year average variation of global surface temperatures. Dark blue indicates areas cooler than average. Dark red indicates areas warmer than average.
Cute article, kid. What's your source? Cliffmass blogspot? Yeah, mine's NASA.
Your argument is invalid.
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