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ttystikk

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It is a fact that Maddow said nothing of the sort that you claimed.

It's all over the internet. Strange unknown blogs claiming to be leftist are saying exactly what you claimed. Almost to the letter.

She poked fun at Trump swallowing Putin's lies and schadenfreude over Bolton's life now that even he is at odds with Trump. Then the internet blossoms with a repeated lie about Maddow endorsing military invasion and regime change. You are a tool of somebody tty. Maybe it's right wing manipulators, maybe it's Russia. IDK. But the whole thing took place very quickly with practically the same words used across multiple sites. Yet, she did not say what they claim.
I saw the clip.
 

Fogdog

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I saw the clip too. She said nothing of the sort.

I'll post this as an example. It came from some unknown well funded blog. What the blogger said was in that vid was not there. Not one bit. Nothing about defending Bolton's positions. She laughed at Bolton's situation.

https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2019/05/07/rachel-maddow-endorses-regime-change-venezuela-push-russia-back-sympathizes-with-bolton-pompeo/

Here is the clip:

The text of the article spent a lot time defending Putin from MSNBC and Maddow. For example an extract from the article: As I documented in a recent Twitter thread, Maddow has been “leading purveyor of now debunked Trump-Russia conspiracy theories, falsehoods and innuendo of the last 2+ years.” Looking back, I should have mentioned that Maddow has also been a vocal promoter of unhinged propaganda that encourages perilous tensions with Russia, and cultivates pro-war opinion among her base of extremely suggestible liberal viewers.

"now debunked Trump-Russia conspiracy theories". REEEEELLLLLYYYY?

To repeat. This is the core of what Maddow said in that video:

Maddow: “Even though his whole administration spent all week saying that Russia was interfering in Venezuela, and propping up the Venezuelan dictator there, turns out President Trump now says: Putin isn’t doing that at all, because Putin told him so.

…And so, hey John Bolton and hey Mike Pompeo, are you guys enjoying your jobs right now? You each thought your job this week was to name, and shame, and threaten, and counter Russian government involvement in Venezuela while saber-rattling about how everybody else better get out of the way because the US is really mad about it. Guys, turns out your actual job is figuring out how and why you work for a president who says whatever Vladimir Putin tells him.”

By all means, directly quote Maddow where, as you say she "defend(s) his positions re Venezuela and Iran." The part that really rankled the blogger was this statement by Maddow: Guys, turns out your actual job is figuring out how and why you work for a president who says whatever Vladimir Putin tells him.” I smell a Russian rat. All you see is barbecue.
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
How dishonest can you be?

I saw the clip too. She said nothing of the sort.

I'll post this as an example. It came from some unknown well funded blog. What the blogger said was in that vid was not there. Not one bit. Nothing about defending Bolton's positions. She laughed at Bolton's situation.

https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2019/05/07/rachel-maddow-endorses-regime-change-venezuela-push-russia-back-sympathizes-with-bolton-pompeo/

Here is the clip:

The text of the article spent a lot time defending Putin from MSNBC and Maddow. For example an extract from the article: As I documented in a recent Twitter thread, Maddow has been “leading purveyor of now debunked Trump-Russia conspiracy theories, falsehoods and innuendo of the last 2+ years.” Looking back, I should have mentioned that Maddow has also been a vocal promoter of unhinged propaganda that encourages perilous tensions with Russia, and cultivates pro-war opinion among her base of extremely suggestible liberal viewers.

"now debunked Trump-Russia conspiracy theories". REEEEELLLLLYYYY?

To repeat. This is the core of what Maddow said in that video:

Maddow: “Even though his whole administration spent all week saying that Russia was interfering in Venezuela, and propping up the Venezuelan dictator there, turns out President Trump now says: Putin isn’t doing that at all, because Putin told him so.

…And so, hey John Bolton and hey Mike Pompeo, are you guys enjoying your jobs right now? You each thought your job this week was to name, and shame, and threaten, and counter Russian government involvement in Venezuela while saber-rattling about how everybody else better get out of the way because the US is really mad about it. Guys, turns out your actual job is figuring out how and why you work for a president who says whatever Vladimir Putin tells him.”

By all means, directly quote Maddow where, as you say she "defend(s) his positions re Venezuela and Iran." The part that really rankled the blogger was this statement by Maddow: Guys, turns out your actual job is figuring out how and why you work for a president who says whatever Vladimir Putin tells him.” I smell a Russian rat. All you see is barbecue.
'this is what John Bolton, human being, had to say this week.'

'John Bolton, good luck, god bless you'
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
You hopeless tool of Russian propaganda. Good luck, god bless you.
You hopeless tool of corporate propaganda.

So sad, you don't even bother to look under the hood of all the painfully obvious contradictions.

But you took the blue pill. No critical thinking for you- it's much too hard and what you might find would be far too disturbing. Better to just attack those who think differently than you, with any tactics at hand, no matter how vile.
 

TacoMac

Well-Known Member
What facts? All you did was threaten to doxx me.

That's all you all EVER do; call people names and then threaten them.

Sounds like Trumper tactics to me.
Wrong, dipshit. Here we go:

Now, you were posting once again about your "World Renown Journalist" that you worship that is a complete fraud just like you are here. Let's review what you just said AGAIN:

I read articles from journalists who actually reported from Venezuela.

You're playing semantic games like it gives you credibility.

Worse, you're supporting a right wing warmongering administration. Really pretty sickening.

Fool.
Now, you touted that bullshit before, so I called you on it here:

Wrong.

You read one article from the same hack you worship that was at a hotel over 200 miles away from what was happening.

He is a complete fraud. Oddly, when I proved it you conveniently vanished from the thread.

You're an utter fraud.

This is the part where, if you're smart, you disappear again so I don't have to hunt all that shit down and embarrass you yet again to the point you stop posting for a month.
And rather than shut the fuck up because you KNOW I'm right, you double down on being a fucking bullshit filled village idiot because you think I can't simply use the search feature of this site and find where you touted that same bullshit before and I proved you so wrong you cried like a little girl and stopped posting.

So here's where you said the same thing back on March 7th of last year:


Greg Palast actually went to Venezuela- and then, wonder of wonders, he actually left the Peninsula Hotel and did first hand investigative reporting.

But don't watch the video. You might actually learn something and it could damage your carefully manufactured misconceptions about what's actually happening.
And you're so absolutely off-the-hook stupid, you didn't bother to simply check the hotel's location out. But I did. Here it is again since you have the memory of a gnat:

pssst...hey dipshit...check this out:
Venezuela Prostest Tty dipshit pic.jpg
Now crawl back under your rock for a few months you complete waste of life.
 

Unclebaldrick

Well-Known Member
How dishonest can you be?


'this is what John Bolton, human being, had to say this week.'

'John Bolton, good luck, god bless you'
Tty, you got beat... again.

Now it is time for you to deflect and pretend to somehow be smarter that everybody else.

I'm not trying to drive you away - nobody is. We are glad you are here. You're funny and you let us know what types of (We The) people the "Progressives" are made up of. If it weren't for you we might not understand how Putin's propaganda is affecting the left.

We owe you one. Please stay. You are good practice.
 

Fogdog

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butthurt cream for you..be a dear and stick it up real high in there.

reported for inappropriate language against TOS.
It's true and I'm OK with that post being deleted. I'll accept whatever the mods think is appropriate too. Unlike you, I won't expect to be treated special.

Personally, it was completely appropriate. You Cult of Sanders types live on a lower rung of humanity and I downscaled my speech to the appropriate level.
 

Unclebaldrick

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Tty gets owned back to the dark ages and look who pops up.
It makes you wonder what she is taking about when she asks you to "stick it way up there", doesn't it?

It seems our boy @ttystikk is not without some pimpin' skills that work on the exceptionally weak minded. If you look for it, you can see he tries it with us too. He takes a position, sticks to it and tries to abuse others into falling in line. It seems to work on a couple people.

But when it comes down to it, there are very, very few willing to let Tty take us on an overnight trip to Wyoming, so to speak.
 

Padawanbater2

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Sanders plan is a loser though.

The idea that 80 million Americans support being forced off a healthcare plan that they say they like is beyond stupid. The majority US public isn't fooled by Sanders deliberate act of leaving the cost and how to pay for that plan out of his bill. I don't know if you are a chump or think everybody else is but you are wrong regardless.
What evidence are you citing that says 80 million Americans oppose Medicare for all?
 

ttystikk

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Wrong, dipshit. Here we go:

Now, you were posting once again about your "World Renown Journalist" that you worship that is a complete fraud just like you are here. Let's review what you just said AGAIN:



Now, you touted that bullshit before, so I called you on it here:



And rather than shut the fuck up because you KNOW I'm right, you double down on being a fucking bullshit filled village idiot because you think I can't simply use the search feature of this site and find where you touted that same bullshit before and I proved you so wrong you cried like a little girl and stopped posting.

So here's where you said the same thing back on March 7th of last year:



And you're so absolutely off-the-hook stupid, you didn't bother to simply check the hotel's location out. But I did. Here it is again since you have the memory of a gnat:



Now crawl back under your rock for a few months you complete waste of life.
But of course you don't call people names.
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
It makes you wonder what she is taking about when she asks you to "stick it way up there", doesn't it?

It seems our boy @ttystikk is not without some pimpin' skills that work on the exceptionally weak minded. If you look for it, you can see he tries it with us too. He takes a position, sticks to it and tries to abuse others into falling in line. It seems to work on a couple people.

But when it comes down to it, there are very, very few willing to let Tty take us on an overnight trip to Wyoming, so to speak.
Yep.

Gotta smear.

You'll get ulcers with all that hate.

Worse than a Trumper, you are.
 

Unclebaldrick

Well-Known Member
Did you two have a nice little sleepover last night? Up early to turn a trick before checkout at the Super 8? Is @ttystikk going to wait in the parking lot with his pants down or is he going to watch this time?
 

Padawanbater2

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if they were told that a government-run system could lead to delays in getting care or higher taxes, support plunged to 26 percent and 37 percent, respectively. Support fell to 32 percent if it would threaten the current Medicare program.
"could lead to delays in getting care"

What kind of care? Required, necessary, immediate care, like a heart transplant, or secondary care, like a nose job? "Care" is ambiguous in this context

Do the benefits outweigh the higher taxes and elimination of copays, deductibles, and premiums? In a Medicare for all system like Bernie Sanders is proposing they do. Did the Morning Consult poll mention that?

How would adding the remaining uninsured Americans to a Medicare for all program "threaten the current medicare program"?...

As you can see, in order for you to get the results you're manufacturing, you need to alter the framing of the question
 

ttystikk

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Did you two have a nice little sleepover last night? Up early to turn a trick before checkout at the Super 8? Is @ttystikk going to wait in the parking lot with his pants down or is he going to watch this time?
Does this have anything at all to do with politics?

No.

Thanks for telling me that you can't have an honest debate on the issues.
 
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