Airwalker16
Well-Known Member
I wasn't trying to bash HLG. Get a grip.
It happens. HLG has made boatloads of cash selling their lights at an OBVIOUS overly priced and unnecessary Mark up if another American company can do it for less. Right? Maybe they're not so bad after all?
Bullshit. What else would you call it?I wasn't trying to bash HLG. Get a grip.
Lolololol I'd call it THE REALITY OF THE TRUTH.Bullshit. What else would you call it?
It's also bashing and you can't have it both ways.Lolololol I'd call it THE REALITY OF THE TRUTH.
It's not a bad thing they did it. They obviously made plenty of money.
Holy shit man. What do you need me to say to make you feel better?It's also bashing and you can't have it both ways.
They recouped their costs and they're making a living, not a killing. Is it your contention that people can't make a profit from their efforts?
Why don't you try looking into the economics of designing, building and selling LED lighting before running your mouth- or is that too much trouble for you?
It's just annoying to see someone getting g upset about another company using the numbers550 in their Fucking name. Every single Fucking HPS or MH ballast setup always has the wattage on it, so why the fuck is LED any different?
Pharmaceutical companies use the same arguments to justify exorbitant prices of new drugs, so there's that...It's also bashing and you can't have it both ways.
They recouped their costs and they're making a living, not a killing. Is it your contention that people can't make a profit from their efforts?
Why don't you try looking into the economics of designing, building and selling LED lighting before running your mouth- or is that too much trouble for you?
I'm responding to Ttystiks hate. I know it's the UV thread buddy.Wow. You really missed the point of the whole post. Which is a different thread by the way. We're in this one to discuss UV lighting, it's effect on growing cannabis, hardware and build discussion.
But reading doesn't seem to be your strong point.
Lol! With the difference that QB's are not exorbitantly priced out like a new cancer medicament. They have calculated a price which allows them to found a company, pay they workers, pay rent, VAT and all other things.Pharmaceutical companies use the same arguments to justify exorbitant prices of new drugs, so there's that...
They also spend billions in marketing, stock buybacks and executive compensation, so not exactly apples to apples.Pharmaceutical companies use the same arguments to justify exorbitant prices of new drugs, so there's that...
I doubt it. What's more likely is the use of knock off boards using less expensive chips.Many companies sell their products to other companies and allow them to sell it under their own name. What if the Agromax boards are in reality true QB's sold to Agromax?
It's actually an OEM product cuz Samsung assembled these boards, not HLG. Pretty sure the contract with Samsung is somehow limited for a certain amount of time and needs to be renewed at some point.
This means even Samsung can sell them to other companies when the contracts with HLG have expired.
Or lets say HLG sells 10k boards per year. If they give the boards to Agromax they sell maybe another 5k boards per anno but with slightly smaller profit. No one knows if Agromax use cheap Meizu or R2T boards or true QB's.
It's all guesses and half-truths ...
Is it illegal ..? No!
Is it like writing off your classmates because you have not learned yourself? For sure and for that behavior you can give them a bad grade but ... actually it's pretty clever to let others do the work.
Have you never done it? Do you see...
True is, HLG has no patent for their QB design and so it was just a matter of time until you see others doing the exact same.
It's called business..
"Calculated price"???Lol! With the difference that QB's are not exorbitantly priced out like a new cancer medicament. They have calculated a price which allows them to found a company, pay they workers, pay rent, VAT and all other things.
100-150% premium is the minimum for any company who has developed an own product otherwise they will go bankrupt at some point.
Pharmaceutical companies want up to 5000% more in the first year (called price determination phase) before they go down to a more "normal" price level. And medicaments are always worldwide patented for at least 15 years. This costs a few millions...
In the moment the patent is expired almost all other pharma companies start to produce exactly the same medicament.
Think on Aspirin® and ASS, Valium® and Diazepam... Earlier there was a ©, today it's just an ®... Use another name and its allowed to make your own.
Your comparison lags bit ...
Apples to seeds?They also spend billions in marketing, stock buybacks and executive compensation, so not exactly apples to apples.
THANK YOUMany companies sell their products to other companies and allow them to sell it under their own name. What if the Agromax boards are in reality true QB's sold to Agromax?
It's actually an OEM product cuz Samsung assembled these boards, not HLG. Pretty sure the contract with Samsung is somehow limited for a certain amount of time and needs to be renewed at some point.
This means even Samsung can sell them to other companies when the contracts with HLG have expired.
Or lets say HLG sells 10k boards per year. If they give the boards to Agromax they sell maybe another 5k boards per anno but with slightly smaller profit. No one knows if Agromax use cheap Meizu or R2T boards or true QB's.
It's all guesses and half-truths ...
Is it illegal ..? No!
Is it like writing off your classmates because you have not learned yourself? For sure and for that behavior you can give them a bad grade but ... actually it's pretty clever to let others do the work.
Have you never done it? Do you see...
True is, HLG has no patent for their QB design and so it was just a matter of time until you see others doing the exact same.
It's called business..
You probably won't see PM either.One thing I really like first time round using UV is no sign of bud rot!
Yeah, an if so buyers can expect not to get top bin diodes like usual with all these meizu, r2t or bava boards. They are maybe called the same but you don't get QB's made by Samsung. 100$ less like a HLG-550..? Shit, no! When I can get these chinese copy boards for ~30$. Below is a price list, btw.I doubt it. What's more likely is the use of knock off boards using less expensive chips.
"Calculated price"???
LOL
HLG charges what the market will bear.
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