Unflushed weeds kill hundreds in Missouri

Azubaz

Azubaz

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I don't think I've ever even experienced real marijuana. We young kids sure do love nitrogen and getting knocked out though for a fact
 
raratt

raratt

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Azubaz said:
I don't think I've ever even experienced real marijuana. We young kids sure do love nitrogen and getting knocked out though for a fact
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I think the sticks that they used to tie weed on in Thailand back in the day had nitrogen in them
 
Hydrotech364

Hydrotech364

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LinguaPeel said:
https://www.agriculture.com/livestock/cattle/in-last-30-days-200-dead-cows-in-the-state-of-missouri

The way I see young people talk about garbage chemical weed these days, "Bro that shit knocked me out instantly", calling unflushed bud "gas", etc, is it safe to say the effect the modern day pot smoker seeks is nothing more than the effects of nitrogen poisoning?

It's a serious thought. I've toked the hardest purps, chems, Ogs around for hours straight, deep into the morning, and nothing ever knocked me out. Yet that's how the dispensary kids rate the "high" these days. In fact I've never met an "Indica" that wouldn't wake you back up when you smoked more. Even the ladies can hang for a few hours before giving up and nodding off.

These kids today ain't getting high, I know for a fact. I've smelled what they smoke. They are getting knocked out from low oxygen in the blood! And the internet grow community thinks it's acceptable to not know what the fuck they are doing?

How many have to die before the internet growers come out of their denial about ferts in plants? Anyone willing to nitrate test their bud? See what comes back blue? I wonder if they got a phosphate field test?
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Get back on your meds killa!
 
pop22

pop22

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some people will believe anything. Your welcomes to believe whatever you want. BUT the truth, based on science is, this story is utter HORSESHIT... maybe a bit cowshit too. Either go back to ocholl and actually learn something or at least own up to your ignorance.

But you know, we can't win a battle of wits against an unarmed opponent.........
 
3rd Monkey

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pop22 said:
some people will believe anything. Your welcomes to believe whatever you want. BUT the truth, based on science is, this story is utter HORSESHIT... maybe a bit cowshit too. Either go back to ocholl and actually learn something or at least own up to your ignorance.

But you know, we can't win a battle of wits against an unarmed opponent.........
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The article isn't bullshit, but OP linking it to unflushed cannabis related deaths (has there ever been one??) is total bullshit.
 
pop22

pop22

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Yes but he twisted it into cannabis flushing which is in no way related to this article, and which is bullshit and the most scientifically WRONG myth still perpetuated in the cannabis world. Using too much of anything can and will be detrimental and thats the problem here, farmers with the idea that more is good and too much is just enough. We long known that corporate farms are destroying the soil, all this article does is prove it.

And it doesn't change the fact that this guy doesn't know what he's talking about and I'll call bullshit whenever someone's talking out their ass.

3rd Monkey said:
The article isn't bullshit, but OP linking it to unflushed cannabis related deaths (has there ever been one??) is total bullshit.
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Johnny Lawrence

Johnny Lawrence

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LinguaPeel said:
So his bud doesn't taste like "made in China". Cannabis should improve breathing, not cause respiratory harm. Not everyone is a walking talking farm animal who can't perceive these things. Unflushed bud is no different than being sold a burger with spit on it. I'd rather eat the spitburger honestly but the responsible party deserves their teeth knocked out either way. You cant claim ignorance anymore. Too many people have told you it ain't right,regardless of your own beliefs.

I dont care if you mistake the smell of unflushed bud, analogous to burning pcp or a well used meth pipe, with "gas" or "sweet" terpenes as many do, smoking the shit clogs you up, if youre actually a fully evolved human it's unavoidably noticeable. Coincidentally the stuff is "harsh" after , impossible to cure into a valuable end-product, degrades into dust quickly, and the high is never good either, but the Pavlovian placebo npc people of course won't notice if they didnt even notice their terps and flavs are shot to shit.


There is nothing else to the debate. Just a bunch of unqualified growers who don't even smoke and sell to walking talking farm animals as evidence that it's acceptable to sell tainted harmful low grade product as medicine.

Feed the bare minimum,maybe you'll have enough terps to disguise the lab chemical taste. All you farm animals out there can go argue with Jorge about it.
https://www.thecannabist.co/2017/03/28/growing-marijuana-fertilizers-nutrients-flushing/72515/

You have no reason to believe that some asshole on the internet knows for a fact the last wax he bought from a delivery service (Purple Dream) was grown with Pure Blend Pro (because you can fuckin smell it), but you can't say you don't believe Jorge, thats just sacrilege to the Cannabis grower religion!
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Bodyne

Bodyne

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the story is true, but not with the mj correlation. The fields in MO have been too wet for the farmers to get out in them. Plus last year, no rain ruined the hay crop. THey had to buy their hay from others. Others put their hay up too moist. A little bit of moisture and they do have nitrate tests for moist split stems, can cause mold, but farmers will feed their cows any hay they can find if there isn't none local. They don't know what the seller actually bailed up. Too much moisture in the hay and they'll spontaneous combust. Lil bit is mold, plus the damn farmers try to make up for a bad year by laying the fertilizer down heavy by the logic that faster quicker more. lol. Didn't turn out that way. You can tell who the younger famers are, compared to the older ones. They know how to buy hay, lol, if they can't produce it themselves.

"Many farmers feed hay they wouldn't normally feed," Evans says. "With hay shortages, they feed what they can get."

Farmers must use caution with hay from unknown sources.

In general, nitrate accumulates first in lower stems of grass and then moves higher. This year that might be Sudan grass, millet, barnyard grass or other forage not usually baled for hay.

Nitrate distribution isn't uniform through forages. "In one case, with 14 dead cows, a farmer sent four hay samples," Evan said. "Two samples had no nitrate, one had moderate nitrate, while the fourth had toxic levels over 1 percent nitrate."

A visual test for nitrate poisoning in cattle is to look at the blood. Blood low in oxygen will be chocolate brown.

Animals surviving nitrate poisoning may appear unthrifty in recovery. Pregnant cows may abort calves or deliver early weak calves. Testing an expelled fetus can confirm high nitrate exposure.

With shortages of quality hay and frigid weather with higher feed needs, we saw this coming, Evans says.

MU Extension state forage specialist Craig Roberts warned herd owners last fall to go light on adding nitrogen to fall grass growth. Nitrogen or poultry litter makes more hay growth but can increase nitrate or other toxins.
 
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