National Popular Vote because it's the President of the United States...

Fogdog

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and not the President of mostly small states.

National Popular Vote is an agreement between states to send delegates to the Electoral College who are bound to vote for the candidate that got the most votes. This would end the EC as a tool for sneaking in a minority president.

This site provides information on the measure.

https://www.nationalpopularvote.com/

The National Popular Vote bill would guarantee the Presidency to the candidate who receives the most popular votes in all 50 states and the District of Columbia. Explanation

It has been enacted into law in 12 states with 172 electoral votes (CA, CT, DC, HI, IL, MA, MD, NJ, NY, RI, VT, WA).

The bill will take effect when enacted by states with 98 more electoral votes. It has passed at least one house in 11 additional states with 89 electoral votes (AR, AZ, CO, DE, ME, MI, NC, NM, NV, OK, OR) and has been approved unanimously by committee votes in two additional states with 26 electoral votes (GA, MO). The bill has recently been passed by a 40–16 vote in the Republican-controlled Arizona House, 28–18 in Republican-controlled Oklahoma Senate, 57–4 in Republican-controlled New York Senate, 34-23 in Democratic-controlled Oregon House, and 26-16 in the New Mexico Senate.



With 172 electoral votes already committed, only 98 more electoral votes are needed to end the power of small states to dictate to the majority who should be president. Oregon has this on it's agenda this year and I'm hopeful that our meager 7 EC votes will bring the number down to 91.

On the National Popular Vote website, there is a tool to e-mail a letter of support to your state legislative representatives.

The EC does not ensure small states have better representation in DC. In fact, no candidates toured small states in 2016. Instead of being an instrument for better representation the EC forces candidates to focus on just a few battleground states, not the most populous states, not all states, not small states, just 6 states in 2016 got 90% of the visits from candidates. In today's world, the EC provides the opposite of democracy.

The EC allowed Republicans to game the system to give us two of the worst presidents in the history of the US.

It's clear that the GOP national party has abandoned the concept of majority rule but most people in most states oppose the EC. Without the need for an amendment, we could make 2020 the first election where the EC no longer matters.
 
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ttystikk

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To hear Bitch McConnell talking about it, the Republican Party is not interested in representative democracy at all.
 

londonfog

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The Voluntary kind where self governance is the primary assumption.
LOL. Good luck with that in a world of 7 billion plus.
Even you know that is not possible...unless unicorns fart the special love gas to make all love each other and get along.
Unfortunately we killed the last unicorn in 1957...or was it 58. Shit I forget.
Do you have any other suggestions how to do this ?
 

hotrodharley

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LOL. Good luck with that in a world of 7 billion plus.
Even you know that is not possible...unless unicorns fart the special love gas to make all love each other and get along.
Unfortunately we killed the last unicorn in 1957...or was it 58. Shit I forget.
Do you have any other suggestions how to do this ?
He's absolutely fucking ridiculous. Volunteer dumbass is what he is. He would be hog food under any system requiring murderers to self report. Voluntarily.
 

tangerinegreen555

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LOL. Good luck with that in a world of 7 billion plus.
Even you know that is not possible...unless unicorns fart the special love gas to make all love each other and get along.
Unfortunately we killed the last unicorn in 1957...or was it 58. Shit I forget.
Do you have any other suggestions how to do this ?
With memes and fairy tales.

And the fairy tales contain racism and pedophilia, as an insight to his mind.
 

Rob Roy

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LOL. Good luck with that in a world of 7 billion plus.
Even you know that is not possible...unless unicorns fart the special love gas to make all love each other and get along.
Unfortunately we killed the last unicorn in 1957...or was it 58. Shit I forget.
Do you have any other suggestions how to do this ?
If human interactions aren't voluntary between people, they are involuntary. Can you refute that ? No, you can't.

Can systems which rely on involuntary human relations ever form the basis of anything other than involuntary relations? No, the inclusion of the involuntary basis ensures that, THAT is impossible. Can you refute that? No, nobody can.



Therefore, if you don't want to keep swimming in impossibility, the ONLY possibility left, is human interactions should occur on a voluntary basis.

Also, there's no such thing as Unicorns.

Still winning.
 

Rob Roy

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He's absolutely fucking ridiculous. Volunteer dumbass is what he is. He would be hog food under any system requiring murderers to self report. Voluntarily.

You clearly don't understand what I mean, when I mention Voluntaryism.

It doesn't mean people have no right to use defensive force as you imply in your lame assumptive post. Or only "special people", "authorities" that you have been trained to obey and genuflect will decide your choices for you.
 

Fogdog

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I'm all for ignorant people choosing not to vote, especially pedos.

But that's not the point of the thread. The National Popular Vote is about everybody's votes counting the same as everybody else's.
 
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