Bah, Hum Bug!!! Xmas sucks (if u own stocks)

blaze 57

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Trumps approval numbers look excellent despite what the Fake News propaganda touts 24/7.

Dow up over 1000 pts today due to people have extra shekels to spend this x-mas.

Mainstreet now owns Wallstreet's mind.

Pull up to the gas pump and WOW! Gas $1.80. Thank you President TRUMP.

MAGA


 

ChiefRunningPhist

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So tell me again why Democrats are so much better for average Americans than Republicans?
Policy.

I'm so sick of hearing "well they both are fucked, it's the average American that gets screwed..."

No. There is a clear line between the 2 parties. There maybe faults with both of them but fundamentally the Dems have always fought for the poor and the GOP only fights for the rich. Spin it how you want, but there is a clear winner when it comes to "fair" policy making or "balanced" policy making.

And people, the republicans didn't embrace Trump. He stole their party and laughed all the while. The traditional party did not embrace him, but were forced to deal with him after his racist rhetoric drummed up a presidential win. They realized how ignorant their base was and couldn't come out condemning trump now that it was apparent he had the ear of the mob. It was too difficult to face a political battle with an idiot and so the gutless GOP caved under the opportunity and now reluctantly caters to the mob. The traditional GOP knew they had the racist following but didn't use it and embrace that group like trump and he stole the face of their party. The GOP has been in trouble ever since Bush Jr though so it didn't take much to control the circus, the animals had been loose for awhile...
 

Fogdog

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Policy.

I'm so sick of hearing "well they both are fucked, it's the average American that gets screwed..."

No. There is a clear line between the 2 parties. There maybe faults with both of them but fundamentally the Dems have always fought for the poor and the GOP only fights for the rich. Spin it how you want, but there is a clear winner when it comes to "fair" policy making or "balanced" policy making.

And people, the republicans didn't embrace Trump. He stole their party and laughed all the while. The traditional party did not embrace him, but were forced to deal with him after his racist rhetoric drummed up a presidential win. They realized how ignorant their base was and couldn't come out condemning trump now that it was apparent he had the ear of the mob. It was too difficult to face a political battle with an idiot and so the gutless GOP caved under the opportunity and now reluctantly caters to the mob. The traditional GOP knew they had the racist following but didn't use it and embrace that group like trump and he stole the face of their party. The GOP has been in trouble ever since Bush Jr though so it didn't take much to control the circus, the animals had been loose for awhile...
I think you are a bit too kind about Republicans, their chosen leader and its racist base. The party has used dog-whistles and racist policies to attract the southern white vote and racist leaning white men since the days of Nixon and especially Reagan. Donald didn't steal these people, he played their tunes and played led them down the garden path but they were always there.

Otherwise, totally agree, it is naive to say that Republicans and Democrats are the same.
 

UncleBuck

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Trumps approval numbers look excellent despite what the Fake News propaganda touts 24/7.

Dow up over 1000 pts today due to people have extra shekels to spend this x-mas.

Mainstreet now owns Wallstreet's mind.

Pull up to the gas pump and WOW! Gas $1.80. Thank you President TRUMP.

MAGA


Trumps approval rating is 38%

The market hasn’t gained a point in 14 months

Gas is cheap because a recession is coming
 

Fogdog

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Another armchair economist trained in the Dunning Kruger school.
Hey, tty

What kind of propaganda are you into these days? Have you made your conversion to alt.right politics yet? Last I heard you were headed in that direction but wasn't aware if you finally signed up for your Stormfront account.
 

Fogdog

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Trumps approval numbers look excellent despite what the Fake News propaganda touts 24/7.

Dow up over 1000 pts today due to people have extra shekels to spend this x-mas.

Mainstreet now owns Wallstreet's mind.

Pull up to the gas pump and WOW! Gas $1.80. Thank you President TRUMP.

MAGA


Got it. You are proud that Trump has the same approval rating as Obama from a right-wing biased polling site.

Tell us again how proud you are that Trump achieved a super de-duper economic growth rate that has not been seen since a few years ago.
 
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ChiefRunningPhist

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Donald didn't steal these people, he played their tunes and played led them down the garden path but they were always there.

Otherwise, totally agree, it is naive to say that Republicans and Democrats are the same.
Exactly he didn't steal them he just put them on a pedestal, made them the face of the party. They used to be a quiet disgrace, now they the cover of the magazine.

The GOP used to be MUCH more moderate. Its been hijacked by the richest elite that use emotion to drive their uneducated following to vote against their own interest all while laughing their way to the bank. Anymore American politics is based on emotion and not logic. Theres no getting through to people because it's turned into tribal or almost religious affiliation and Americans are dumb.
 

schuylaar

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maybe one day the never Trumpers will grow a brain and figure out that equity market performance has nothing to do with the strength of the economy. Never has , never will.

and of coarse if you listen to CNN 24/7 propaganda right now they will make you believe the economy is crashing because the DOW is down.

All economic numbers point to a record breaking MAIN STREET economy. Trump is transferring money from Wall Street/China into the average Joe's pocket. This is what Trump said he would do before he was elected.
then why was mnuchin with sweaty palms calling all banks to make sure there's liquidity on chrismas eve eve?
 

ttystikk

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but fundamentally the Dems have always fought for the poor
This is straight bullshit.

They turned their backs on the poor and the working class and unions decades ago.

Bill Clinton passed NAFTA over there strenuous objections of unions- and we know how that turned out.

Obama bailed out the banks, not homeowners.

Joe Biden was responsible for for making sure student loans aren't dischargeable by bankruptcy.

Senator Micheal Bennett (D Colorado) has taken more money from Wall Street and the banksters than any other elected official anywhere- and he made sure to thank them by eviscerating Dodd-Frank, opening the door to another massive crash like 2008 by removing the regulatory controls put in place to prevent it.

Almost all Democrats have repeatedly voted for increased military spending and record 'Defense' budget increases.

If these are the people you think represent you, fine- but they don't represent me.

I'm sick and fucking tired of hearing about how they have the interests of the working and middle classes at heart when even a cursory look at their record screams exactly the opposite.

I'm voting for Bernie, or failing that another Socialist candidate. Runaway capitalism got us into this mess, in large part by buying our political system along with both parties. It is absurd to think that continuing to do the same thing will have any different result.
 

ttystikk

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Cali gas .... I still say fuck trump regardless. And fuck jerry brown too.
Missouri is 1.88 per gallon.

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How is cheap subsidized gasoline a good thing? Don't we need to stop using fossil fuels?

Where are the subsidies for converting to electric cars? Where are the subsidies for solar and wind power? Why are we allowing energy utilities across the country to refuse to pay for energy generated from consumer installed solar and wind?

Cheap gas is exactly as 'good' as cheap methamphetamine.
 

ChiefRunningPhist

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How is cheap subsidized gasoline a good thing? Don't we need to stop using fossil fuels?

Where are the subsidies for converting to electric cars? Where are the subsidies for solar and wind power? Why are we allowing energy utilities across the country to refuse to pay for energy generated from consumer installed solar and wind?

Cheap gas is exactly as 'good' as cheap methamphetamine.
You mean like the renewable incentives put forth by Obama?

Changing car manufactures to have mpg regs.. ??

Fighting to keep air clean?
 

ttystikk

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You mean like the renewable incentives put forth by Obama?

Changing car manufactures to have mpg regs.. ??

Fighting to keep air clean?
How about raising wages?

Strengthening unions?

Reinstating Glass-Steagal?

Taxing the wealthy?

Raising insurance taxes?

Free Education?

Universal health care?

I'm all for social activism, but not at the expense of financial reform.

In case you missed it, there's been a class war on against the middle and lower classes since Reagan was elected.

The rich won.

Where is the Democratic Party response to that?
 

ChiefRunningPhist

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This is straight bullshit.

They turned their backs on the poor and the working class and unions decades ago.

Bill Clinton passed NAFTA over there strenuous objections of unions- and we know how that turned out.

Obama bailed out the banks, not homeowners.

Joe Biden was responsible for for making sure student loans aren't dischargeable by bankruptcy.

Senator Micheal Bennett (D Colorado) has taken more money from Wall Street and the banksters than any other elected official anywhere- and he made sure to thank them by eviscerating Dodd-Frank, opening the door to another massive crash like 2008 by removing the regulatory controls put in place to prevent it.

Almost all Democrats have repeatedly voted for increased military spending and record 'Defense' budget increases.

If these are the people you think represent you, fine- but they don't represent me.

I'm sick and fucking tired of hearing about how they have the interests of the working and middle classes at heart when even a cursory look at their record screams exactly the opposite.

I'm voting for Bernie, or failing that another Socialist candidate. Runaway capitalism got us into this mess, in large part by buying our political system along with both parties. It is absurd to think that continuing to do the same thing will have any different result.
Wow you are so confused...

Ill start line by line..

The people bailed out the banks, and the people bailed out the car companies. NOT Obama. Btw the the banks failed due to deregulating wall street under GOP management. Go ahead blame Obama but the facts are that we pulled out of a recession because of stimulus spending and bailing out the banks. Obama solved the republican problem.

Then you talk about repealing dodd Frank like it was a dem brain child, lol ridiculous. Sorry bud but you're going t have to look at the facts. Repealing Dodd Frank was a republican thing, trump ran on it, it was nut a dem thing lol..

Biden responsible for non-bankruptable student loan dept? How is this bad?

Democrats for increased military spending huh? Lmao gtfoh

You literally take all the repub stuff and try to slap it on the dems. I'm not saying the Dems are perfect but just follow the money. 90% of the time the dems are for the little guy the repub are for the rich guy..

Pollution reg rollback
ND pipeline push
Repeal of dodd frank
Coal industry revival
Supreme court nominations
Iraq - Halliburton
Tax cut to the rich

I could go on all day...

Next time you see a piece of legislation, do me a favour, look at what the bill is trying to accomplish and look who will benefit and then look at who is for and opposed, you'll see, repub 99% of the time are swindling uneducated voters with slick legislation designed only to bolster the pockets of the rich while touching on some twisted emotional aspect to dupe their constituency into voting against itself..
 
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