thenotsoesoteric

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Sometimes they never recover.
I've got a couple of OBS that are still questionable after having root issues, and I'm seriously considering culling them and running gorilla wreck instead.
Yep I think being thrown in flower twice in a row compounded with the ph being off and other stress they just said fuck and want to flower out and die already, lol. It sucks but the clones will do fine, they always do but like you said, sometime they just stay fucked off once the roots take a hit.

I know though that the purple pheno of black dog I transplanted in a 2 gallon pot a week ago has tons of new root shoots coming out the bottom of the pot so that's why I'd like to take these plants out back and put a 12 gauge slug in them, like old Early Culyer. lmao.
 

Bodyne

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He's well. Had a nice chat recently. Related: Anyone holding on to a pack of raindance, pop those beans. Amazing mouth coating sour skittlz flavor and potent. Some of this year's tastiest, for sure.
Frisco and Alcatraz from Norstar uses the deadhead too, and those are very good and they announced yesterday they are being discontinued. Bunch of their old mainstays going by the wayside. Many new crosses coming.
 

Bodyne

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I'm not sure if I'm the last to know, but I just seen this on IG. Thought it was interesting....

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yea man, it has so many diff names, a guy had to know that it didn't stand for the garlic mushrooms onions, that was just a guys opinion on a grow site. Skunks grows look awesome of it on IG there's many pics. But to be honest, its one of those strains that looks like a caveman could grow it and it turn out fire. By itself or in crosses. Amazing its the ChemD, my fave, lol, not stardog, not Chem4, but the badass D.
 

Michael Huntherz

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I must have done something to piss off the Gods of growing because 2018 has been fucked off for me. I started off the year having hell of issues with the tupur I was using at the time.

I switched over to canna coco and everything was good for a few months then in early October I had a cold snap that my goji seedlings didn't like and as soon as I got them happy I got hit with an apartment inspection. Which caused more issues and my plants just haven't came back from it.

Well my fudging plants are now constantly wilting. They'll look happy for a few hours after lights come on after rest period but 6-8 hours later they're wilting again. Temp is 75-77, humidity 47%-52% I've tried letting them dry out a lot, a little, tried watering everyday still the same. Plus all the girls are producing resin and calyxes instead of full on veg. I think part of the issue is it is taking too long for the coco to dry out like they did over the summer. But summer time I was mostly in the 30%-40% humidity range so coco dried out quicker than it is now.

The other thing is I recently put in a hug 65 4000k quantum board and the wilting mainly started once I turned this bitch on. I had the biggest veg plants under this right away and wilt city. So I moved them back under the t5 and they didn't wilt as bad. But after 3 weeks they should be used to the hlg 65, I mean it is over 12" above the plants? Well yesterday I was like fuck it I'm putting under the hlg again and if they die they die. Well they ain't dead today but they look sad.
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These are the two black dogs and one of the lvtk I'm gonna chuck with so I'm a little frustrated but fuck it. I'm just gonna throw them in flower now so I can pollinate them and try again with their clones.

Plus all the plants are showing a lot of purple in the stem so I'm not sure what is going on at the moment. I remember reading plants under led need more either cal or mag so I started upping the calmag in recent feedings.

The recent clones I have taken look fine and the bigger clones I left in rock wool look better but shit in coco just ain't coming around.
2017 was much like that for me, barely grew anything, fried some plants that had great potential, cause remains unknown, had some bad Tupur that seemed to have pH and other problems, fried some other ones due to rookie neglect. Sorry it has been a rough one. Your good stuff looks great!
 

JohnGlennsGarden

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check into that Garden Friendly Fungicide. It fixes exactly the issues you are describing. You could always clone and start fresh?

@JohnGlennsGarden I have been having herm issues too and for the longest time thought it was heat or light leak related. Then last week I started wondering if its the fan? I use an upright fan that definitely blows on all the plants sideways. Is this wrong? Should I get rid of the upright fan and switch out for a few hanging fans?
Honestly, I don't really know. I know I personally have less issues when I turn the oscillating fan around backwards and just move the air around the room, instead of pushing the early flowering seed plants around. I would ideally have 2 fans in opposite corners moving air around together, but I'm pretty limited on space.

On the flipside, I've seen plenty of gardens with lots of fans blowing directly with zero problems, so again, idk. :bigjoint:
 

Bodyne

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Honestly, I don't really know. I know I personally have less issues when I turn the oscillating fan around backwards and just move the air around the room, instead of pushing the early flowering seed plants around. I would ideally have 2 fans in opposite corners moving air around together, but I'm pretty limited on space.

On the flipside, I've seen plenty of gardens with lots of fans blowing directly with zero problems, so again, idk. :bigjoint:
old mentor friend of mine, swears by it and has so much air flowing in his 4 x 8, you wouldn't believe it. Not blowin over, but moving everyone more than a draft. It keeps the temps down and also strenghtens the plants and he swears by it, saying thats the thing people will forget. He has a huge fan as intake ande exhaust. I go in the tent to cool off in summer and look at his stuff. He's also one that won't feed anything but great white, and micros. all the way thru and grows really good quality stuff. I do it now, but the youngins I have to get out of the main airflow, but it dont' take long for the stems to harden up and the plants just seems to be getting heartier. jme Ive even put a box fan in the door of the tent on med and let it blow the shit out of em. I also notice with that much airflow, no pecker gnats, not many if any bug probs, etc. So the upside on good hard airflow imho is great.
 

SSGrower

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Honestly, I don't really know. I know I personally have less issues when I turn the oscillating fan around backwards and just move the air around the room, instead of pushing the early flowering seed plants around. I would ideally have 2 fans in opposite corners moving air around together, but I'm pretty limited on space.

On the flipside, I've seen plenty of gardens with lots of fans blowing directly with zero problems, so again, idk. :bigjoint:
I postulate the existence of an amorphic stress blob, push on one boundry the rest of the blob changes shape, molding to the "container of stress and environment" all features of which are time dependant, cumulative, and interrelated. Whatever parameter of environment is adjusted, when and how it is adjusted, is why some have "issues" while others dont.
 

thenotsoesoteric

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2017 was much like that for me, barely grew anything, fried some plants that had great potential, cause remains unknown, had some bad Tupur that seemed to have pH and other problems, fried some other ones due to rookie neglect. Sorry it has been a rough one. Your good stuff looks great!
Thank you for the kind words.

I ended up moving plants back to larger closet to veg so I could get a bigger fan going and more air flow plus bought a dehumidifier to keep things drying out proper. Hopefully this should remedy many issues. And today the plant were only slightly wilting at 9pm lights off.

Here they were yesterday around 8 pm
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Here they were at 9 am this morning. Not reaching for the sky but leaves are vertical.
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Edit: Forgot to mention that I just hit the goji girls with their brother's pollen so hopefully they take to it kindly. I also went a little heavy with it too. I figured the girls are small and it wasn't like I was gonna get a pound of smoke so might as well get a bit more beans out of them. Basically hit all the buds under the top 4-6 inches.
 
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