LubdaNugs
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Don’t forget the egg.
Chuckers paradise......
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Michael Huntherz
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I appreciate all the kind words, you did the hard part, I keep the reservoir full and watch with glee. I am prepping for a DWC run, going to let these rock for at least a few. Some are foxtailing in spots pretty good, but I wasn’t easy on them, they suffered my bullshit (flipping light timing twice during flower) with very little complaint. All in all I could not be more pleased, and my new (gifted) 3x3 tent could not be more packed. Thanks for the delightful beans.In all seriousness, they look great, and I appreciate muchly you giving them a go with the full schedule of work you're doing elsewhere.
I bet they get me lovely high and taste delicious, smoke report to come.
Michael Huntherz
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Yeah at least a week, sigh. The look so tasty, and smell even better, the tent is a symphony of slightly overripe tropical fruit, more or less. Or maybe more of a chamber orchestra than a full symphony orchestra... a sextet of stanky equatorial fruit.
Notice the high tech trellis I recently installed. Keep it classy, RIU.
Next up in this tent: zero-veg 12-plant DWC, with an option to switch to F&D on the fly. Probably OBS and BigHorn Buds’ chucks, maybe some more Huckleberry.
Odbball holes are for filling operations.
Bulkheads with ball valves to drain.
Bought a 34” Cosco table, fits perfectly in a “36” inch tent. Two 15 gallon Sterilite tubs, effectively 12 gallons, on top. Drilled holes in the table for drainage after a touch of reinforcement to hold the weight, and sawed the legs off at 16” with a hacksaw. Should be an interesting experience.
No media, 2” net pots and that fancy trellis to keep them upright, may install a second as needed, stupid easy, obviously.
Thanks to @klx for the no-media inspiration, and I will totally blame him if this goes tits up.
My first F&D experiment is growing some tomatoes, I am sticking with DWC for simplicity of setup, on the Canna side, at least at the moment.
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thenotsoesoteric
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I must have done something to piss off the Gods of growing because 2018 has been fucked off for me. I started off the year having hell of issues with the tupur I was using at the time.
I switched over to canna coco and everything was good for a few months then in early October I had a cold snap that my goji seedlings didn't like and as soon as I got them happy I got hit with an apartment inspection. Which caused more issues and my plants just haven't came back from it.
Well my fudging plants are now constantly wilting. They'll look happy for a few hours after lights come on after rest period but 6-8 hours later they're wilting again. Temp is 75-77, humidity 47%-52% I've tried letting them dry out a lot, a little, tried watering everyday still the same. Plus all the girls are producing resin and calyxes instead of full on veg. I think part of the issue is it is taking too long for the coco to dry out like they did over the summer. But summer time I was mostly in the 30%-40% humidity range so coco dried out quicker than it is now.
The other thing is I recently put in a hug 65 4000k quantum board and the wilting mainly started once I turned this bitch on. I had the biggest veg plants under this right away and wilt city. So I moved them back under the t5 and they didn't wilt as bad. But after 3 weeks they should be used to the hlg 65, I mean it is over 12" above the plants? Well yesterday I was like fuck it I'm putting under the hlg again and if they die they die. Well they ain't dead today but they look sad.
These are the two black dogs and one of the lvtk I'm gonna chuck with so I'm a little frustrated but fuck it. I'm just gonna throw them in flower now so I can pollinate them and try again with their clones.
Plus all the plants are showing a lot of purple in the stem so I'm not sure what is going on at the moment. I remember reading plants under led need more either cal or mag so I started upping the calmag in recent feedings.
The recent clones I have taken look fine and the bigger clones I left in rock wool look better but shit in coco just ain't coming around.
I switched over to canna coco and everything was good for a few months then in early October I had a cold snap that my goji seedlings didn't like and as soon as I got them happy I got hit with an apartment inspection. Which caused more issues and my plants just haven't came back from it.
Well my fudging plants are now constantly wilting. They'll look happy for a few hours after lights come on after rest period but 6-8 hours later they're wilting again. Temp is 75-77, humidity 47%-52% I've tried letting them dry out a lot, a little, tried watering everyday still the same. Plus all the girls are producing resin and calyxes instead of full on veg. I think part of the issue is it is taking too long for the coco to dry out like they did over the summer. But summer time I was mostly in the 30%-40% humidity range so coco dried out quicker than it is now.
The other thing is I recently put in a hug 65 4000k quantum board and the wilting mainly started once I turned this bitch on. I had the biggest veg plants under this right away and wilt city. So I moved them back under the t5 and they didn't wilt as bad. But after 3 weeks they should be used to the hlg 65, I mean it is over 12" above the plants? Well yesterday I was like fuck it I'm putting under the hlg again and if they die they die. Well they ain't dead today but they look sad.
These are the two black dogs and one of the lvtk I'm gonna chuck with so I'm a little frustrated but fuck it. I'm just gonna throw them in flower now so I can pollinate them and try again with their clones.
Plus all the plants are showing a lot of purple in the stem so I'm not sure what is going on at the moment. I remember reading plants under led need more either cal or mag so I started upping the calmag in recent feedings.
The recent clones I have taken look fine and the bigger clones I left in rock wool look better but shit in coco just ain't coming around.
macsnax
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I think I would look at root temps and root issues in general. Good luck man.
thenotsoesoteric
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Well on better news the lvtk x tangerine power beans look about done in a few spots. I'm gonna double check them tomorrow and hopefully chop her and throw in the wilting wonders for chucking.
As far as the up coming pollen chuck, I am only going to pollinate the 2 black dogs and 3 or 4 lvtk clones. The bubba's gift is a turd and I'm gonna chop it tomorrow. I haven't flowered out the east cake long enough to know it is nanner free so it's a no go to.
I will use only goji pollen on the black dogs and I will hit lvtk clones with both tangerine power pollen and goji pollen. The lvtk x tangerine power is just to find lvtk leaning mom, if I find a nice orange flavored tk leaner then cool. The tang pow male let's a lot of mom genes through so that's why I'm hoping I'll find a pheno similar to my lvtk so I can reverse it later on.
As far as the up coming pollen chuck, I am only going to pollinate the 2 black dogs and 3 or 4 lvtk clones. The bubba's gift is a turd and I'm gonna chop it tomorrow. I haven't flowered out the east cake long enough to know it is nanner free so it's a no go to.
I will use only goji pollen on the black dogs and I will hit lvtk clones with both tangerine power pollen and goji pollen. The lvtk x tangerine power is just to find lvtk leaning mom, if I find a nice orange flavored tk leaner then cool. The tang pow male let's a lot of mom genes through so that's why I'm hoping I'll find a pheno similar to my lvtk so I can reverse it later on.
thenotsoesoteric
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Oh yeah I've been on it, root temps are not too low and I started using rhizotonic again a week or so ago to help on that front. I mean I can see roots on top and coming out the bottom but my thought was similar to yours, double check the roots and what's going on.
Thanks for the suggestion. It's always good to have extra eyes/brains on it.
macsnax
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I almost didn't say anything because I know, you know what's up.
Amos Otis
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Is that a good idea? Just asking, I don't know. But I assumed healthy plants made better seeds. I have no basis for this belief, just a thought I latched on to.
LivicationGenetics
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At least 2nd to last. I didnt know
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JohnGlennsGarden
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briscoe county update: orgi f2 #1 Nice structure, looking happy around two weeks since flip. No intersex shown.
orgi f2 #2 stacking tighter. Picked 2 or 3 balls off lowers.
Orgi f2 #3 I like the look of this lady, but. .
Quite a few nuts. My early hypothesis is they didn't like my fan. It has been moved. Cu orgi was the closest and had the most.
Also, the only plant I topped this round. Balls have been picked, legs shaved. Optimistic.
orgi f2 #2 stacking tighter. Picked 2 or 3 balls off lowers.
Orgi f2 #3 I like the look of this lady, but. .
Quite a few nuts. My early hypothesis is they didn't like my fan. It has been moved. Cu orgi was the closest and had the most.
Also, the only plant I topped this round. Balls have been picked, legs shaved. Optimistic.
Amos Otis
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I've gotten another report of nuts on the copper orgi in mail box early on, and some found later that were either missed or are new. I think it's a first report on Orgi. Thanks for your work and report, and....how's that Bubby cat doin?
Chunky Stool
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Could be a PH problem.
JohnGlennsGarden
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He's well. Had a nice chat recently. Related: Anyone holding on to a pack of raindance, pop those beans. Amazing mouth coating sour skittlz flavor and potent. Some of this year's tastiest, for sure.
thenotsoesoteric
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I think the plants will still seed out fine as far as quality of beans but it just won't be as nice of a harvest. I think I'll get a diminished return in quantity compared to them being it top spirit but I think once they go into flower they'll be cool. The 12 hour rest period will be a little easier on them since they start off the day perked up and praying but always start wilting later. But we'll see.
In the long run I think I'll just end up getting less seeds this first run but I'll make do for now. I think I'll still be able to get a couple hundred or more beans off each black dog and more of the lvtk.
thenotsoesoteric
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This too.
I was using the damn drops because I had to wait nearly 2 months for Milwaukee to replace the probe in for my two week old ph55 pen I bought from a local store. They said it took so long because I didn't call for the warranty replacement and they don't deal with the stores or some BS.
Well I got the new probe this Tuesday and tested the rate I was ph'ing with the drops. It looked yellow orange so I thought it was like 5.5 to 5.8ish but it was more like 6.1-6.3 so for a month and a half ph was off but that doesn't really explain the wilting. Ive been growing a while and never came across plants doing this, out of 16 years. I'm sure it's compounding issues but the fact plants start the first few hours perky as hell and then by mid day you can notice them sagging and by lights out at 10 they look like they're asleep, as if I just turned the light on in the middle of the rest/dark period.
Just another curve that indoor growing felt like throwing me.
Chunky Stool
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Sometimes they never recover.
I've got a couple of OBS that are still questionable after having root issues, and I'm seriously considering culling them and running gorilla wreck instead.
growslut
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check into that Garden Friendly Fungicide. It fixes exactly the issues you are describing. You could always clone and start fresh?
@JohnGlennsGarden I have been having herm issues too and for the longest time thought it was heat or light leak related. Then last week I started wondering if its the fan? I use an upright fan that definitely blows on all the plants sideways. Is this wrong? Should I get rid of the upright fan and switch out for a few hanging fans?