Best light on the market ?

[NanoGadget]

Every led grower who touts this shite should block me or they just gone be arguing constantly back on this forum when i oppose their rubbish.

Seriously even the led claims in this thread are far fetched, what are you powering your diodes with.... lasers

No, you're just dumb.

 

[Kingrow1]

When did I ever say to jar wet weed please find and post it. I have always told folks to dry and cure properly lol damn you a special little goon. Yes there have been threads where we’ve sexed plants and Said they were males due to them showing male bits. Some were hermie plants and showed female a bit later but me I don’t keep or deal with hermie plants. As for leds I said earlier yet Again in this thread I’m currently using cmh lights. I’m starting to think your the troll here and want to massage your ego. I’m starting to think an led hurt you at some time in your sad little life but all is well I’ll give you a hug if needed.

I do like how you defected the fact that your own articles showed exactly what I had stated though.

Dude you couldnt even sex a plant, weak ass broscience, i paid attention and progressed forward to a higher level which is why i can sex plants.

Now how do you suppose i got better than 99% of the site at sexing? Could be why im better at light heat and chlorophyll.

Until you can sex a plant i suggested you stay of them threads but here you are again on another thread dick slinging your own independant elected opinion.

We are two different sides of the coin here, be prepared for this side to get right up in growers faces over this foolish info your all spreading.

FYI - not being able to sex a fem seed is whats called 'NOOB' on this site

 

[Kingrow1]

No, you're just dumb.

Nope i have an opinion and am as free as led mofos to give it, your dumb for following the crowd.

Your another member who can sex plants right, didnt want to troll you about it but lets put that there for all the newbies to see that you fail so bad at the simple stuff yet preach like martin led king....!

Not fussed what you say, im an independant, dont suck no ones dick especially not your boyfriends gormau

 

[Kingrow1]

No, you're just dumb.

Dumb enough to google the correct definition of PPFD.....

So a non dumbass would just copy and paste led info like you.

Id rather be dumb thanks

 

[Kingrow1]

So guys and girls, you are being preached to by members that cant even sex plants and need me to correct, follow at your own risk, preferably in the led section although i have no idea what they are trolling here for, we made a whole section to keep them from ruining this

 

[Kingrow1]

Led trolls

 

[Johnny Lawrence]

i have other questions back for led users like in five years whats the total damage in moneitary terms¿

I'll do some maths for my personal space.

A couple years back I replaced 3 600 HIDs with 450w each of Cree/Citizen Cobs. That was about $2000. I also replaced 500 watts of T5 with a 300 watt Samsung based panel. That cost me about $450 to build. So let's round it up to $2500. Subtract the roughly $400 I got selling my used equipment brings the investment to $2100.

I don't live in a cold climate like you, where you were on here a few months back complaining about an 80 degree "heat wave" - LOL. I also pay through the nose for electricity - SoCal has some of the highest rates on the planet. I used to have a $1200/month electricity bill. It's now down to $900.

So now for the math. With an annual saving of $3600, the lights have already paid for themselves - almost four times over. I've saved $7000 in the last 2 years. And that's not even factoring in bulb costs.


As others have mentioned, there is no best grow light. One of my flowering rooms has taller ceilings than the rest, so I decided to run a 600/750 DE with 315s at the corners. If I lived in a cold climate with cheap electricity, I'd probably run HID too. But I wouldn't get triggered and shit all over LEDs anytime they're mentioned, cause I realize that they do have ideal applications.

One last thing - and I've mentioned it before. The tents in which I replaced the 3 600s are pulling the exact same numbers in terms of weight. My 4x8 that previously had 2 600s, is cranking out the same weight running 900 watts of COBs. An additional 100 watts(plus noise) was eliminated by removing the inline fan that was pulling air off the hoods.


Now back to the shit slinging.

 

[Lordhooha]

Dude you couldnt even sex a plant, weak ass broscience, i paid attention and progressed forward to a higher level which is why i can sex plants.

Now how do you suppose i got better than 99% of the site at sexing? Could be why im better at light heat and chlorophyll.

Until you can sex a plant i suggested you stay of them threads but here you are again on another thread dick slinging your own independant elected opinion.

We are two different sides of the coin here, be prepared for this side to get right up in growers faces over this foolish info your all spreading.

FYI - not being able to sex a fem seed is whats called 'NOOB' on this site

Most had agreed with that particular post but I bet you sit around wearing a tinfoil hat. There are very few I’ve seen rising up with you on any given topic. But I’m still not sure where I’ve argued about heat with you nor do I have issues keeping my rooms in check.

 

[Johnny Lawrence]

Now how do you suppose i got better than 99% of the site at sexing? Could be why im better at light heat and chlorophyll.

Bigly

 

[Johnny Lawrence]

So guys and girls, you are being preached to by members that cant even sex plants and need me to correct, follow at your own risk, preferably in the led section although i have no idea what they are trolling here for, we made a whole section to keep them from ruining this

It's called "general" for a reason.

 

[cheemo]

Only problem I am having, is my Wheaton terrier keeps trashing the Christmas tree.

have fun!I would rather have it extracted.

damn, wife got a standard poodle pup last February to replace hers that passed away last December, he hasn't seen a Christmas yet. might be interesting for us as well when we put up the tree.

 

[Flash63]

damn, wife got a standard poodle pup last February to replace hers that passed away last December, he hasn't seen a Christmas yet. might be interesting for us as well when we put up the tree.
I was just out in the yard cleaning up silver poop,ffs

 

[cheemo]

I was just out in the yard cleaning up silver poop,ffs

lol...we switched over to metal tinsel some years ago, cats kept eating the plastic stuff. wasn't a big deal until one had some tinsel tangle up in his gut. was a costly vet experience. I had another, much cheaper solution than the vet, but the wife and kids wouldn't allow me to utilize that option.

 

[Flash63]

lol...we switched over to metal tinsel some years ago, cats kept eating the plastic stuff. wasn't a big deal until one had some tinsel tangle up in his gut. was a costly vet experience. I had another, much cheaper solution than the vet, but the wife and kids wouldn't allow me to utilize that option.

I’ve seen it before with cats, they’re notorious for eating tinsel...and hiding in the tree.

 

[cheemo]

I’ve seen it before with cats, they’re notorious for eating tinsel...and hiding in the tree.

or playing Gretzky with the ornaments down the hallways at 3am. fucking cats

 

[Heisenbeans]

So guys come here, fight down the past members and their science, tout leds, act like teas and boveda is the way or else you cant grow, ppfd is the law and your lights shite if its not close to leds and get worked up when they get real answers back.

Laughable, like i said this is how you forced the led opinion here, not through fact or science but through sheer ego and not backing down.

Your wrong on ppfd and were wrong to tout it, now we have to have a whole science lesson to avoid this one fact 'YOUR WRONG' and cant take it

Kinda sounds like you. You are failing to realize 1 important factor. Your trying to convince people that already went from hps to the newer QBs or cobs and like them better. Are you seriously this stupid not to realize that? Be like you trying to convince me my old girlfriend is better than my new one when I done been with both them bitches.

I dont care how much you type up I have ran cobs right next to the double ended 1000w cmh and the cobs did everything I needed them to lol.

I've ran hps,600 1000 315s and I still think my cobs give me a slightly better advantage and I enjoy growing with them. Anyone that says they dont like hps over led you accuse them of not being able to grow under hps.
You still fail to provide any proof of anything.
For surely you cant afford a nice led but maybe a camera to get some pics of this bomb ass shit you have growing under HPS.

 

[topher73]

Like I said, it's all how you take care of your LEDs. Heat will ruin your LEDs. Mine never go higher than 110 degrees F. If they last 10 years, great.
I am reaping the rewards from switching as I type this.
If you want your COBs to last, use the 5.88" heat sinks from Heatsink USA.
Your HS is like the "foundation' of a biulding . You can always change your LEDs as the technology gets better, but the HS, you will have forever.

Or rock these bad boys. Killer heat dissipation.

 

[Heisenbeans]

I'll do some maths for my personal space.

A couple years back I replaced 3 600 HIDs with 450w each of Cree/Citizen Cobs. That was about $2000. I also replaced 500 watts of T5 with a 300 watt Samsung based panel. That cost me about $450 to build. So let's round it up to $2500. Subtract the roughly $400 I got selling my used equipment brings the investment to $2100.

I don't live in a cold climate like you, where you were on here a few months back complaining about an 80 degree "heat wave" - LOL. I also pay through the nose for electricity - SoCal has some of the highest rates on the planet. I used to have a $1200/month electricity bill. It's now down to $900.

So now for the math. With an annual saving of $3600, the lights have already paid for themselves - almost four times over. I've saved $7000 in the last 2 years. And that's not even factoring in bulb costs.


As others have mentioned, there is no best grow light. One of my flowering rooms has taller ceilings than the rest, so I decided to run a 600/750 DE with 315s at the corners. If I lived in a cold climate with cheap electricity, I'd probably run HID too. But I wouldn't get triggered and shit all over LEDs anytime they're mentioned, cause I realize that they do have ideal applications.

One last thing - and I've mentioned it before. The tents in which I replaced the 3 600s are pulling the exact same numbers in terms of weight. My 4x8 that previously had 2 600s, is cranking out the same weight running 900 watts of COBs. An additional 100 watts(plus noise) was eliminated by removing the inline fan that was pulling air off the hoods.


Now back to the shit slinging.

Careful he's gonna tell you that you just couldnt grow under hps.

 

[Heisenbeans]

Or rock these bad boys. Killer heat dissipation.

I'm running mine super soft. 38 volt d series veros at 1400mA around 50 watts a piece with oversized heat sinks. They'll probably out live me on 12 12.

 

[Kingrow1]

Most had agreed with that particular post but I bet you sit around wearing a tinfoil hat. There are very few I’ve seen rising up with you on any given topic. But I’m still not sure where I’ve argued about heat with you nor do I have issues keeping my rooms in check.

Most had agreed with that particular post but I bet you sit around wearing a tinfoil hat. There are very few I’ve seen rising up with you on any given topic. But I’m still not sure where I’ve argued about heat with you nor do I have issues keeping my rooms in check.

Most had agreed with that particular post but I bet you sit around wearing a tinfoil hat. There are very few I’ve seen rising up with you on any given topic. But I’m still not sure where I’ve argued about heat with you nor do I have issues keeping my rooms in check.

Ya i am rather independant but still what can you do when im right on so many basic things and you guys come up snakeyes, i like it, few would dare question stuff so deep and from such an impartial point.

I didnt look at the science so much to burn leds just for a few simple basic facts they based everything else on.

Stuff likecthats easy with my tinfoil hat on just like the same logic i applied against you and many here in the 'What sex is my plant' threads. You fall down because of those weird growths that are neither male or female.

Zero answer back from led growers when i quoted the wiki speil on ppfd and its flaws, same with all else.

I conceed to being dumb but dontvfor a second think you lot arent proved to be a whole lot dumber.

I have delved into many other topics just to bring forth info like hermies wind apical dominance all with 99% saying im wrong