Best light on the market ?

Heisenbeans

Heisenbeans

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Kingrow1 said:
To be honest his plants werent impressive, my plants finish green on harvest not all purple and what not leafed like he is posting.

Only pure green impresses me, that colour photosynthesis is at its most efficient, all else just shows signs of problems :-)
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You get dumber by the minute.
Color is sometimes more than not strain dependant.
I'm sure you got the memo I grow in recirculating deep water culture.
All these plants are in the same system

See the purple ones behind this one. Yeah same lights same buckets. It's called wedding cake and it fukin turns purple even under HPS. Lol.

See any purple in this one? Lol I'm starting to think you grow more words than weed.

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Kushash

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I was reading this thread at the dentists office while waiting for 2 crowns to be made.
I was going to tease King with some pictures after getting back.
Then I read the 1st sentence in Xcoregamerskillz's post:
"I honestly don't get why King is so pissed. He's changed in the year I've been gone"

Made me think of a post I made to KG1 in July.
Kushash said:
Good Morning Brother!
MMG asked you why you were mad and your responce above did not address the question.
I was glad he asked and disappointed you did not respond.
This crusade of yours has only been going on for about 6 months right?
Before that I don't recall you being involved like this with this topic.
Maybe you were and I missed it.
If I'm right and this only started in the past few months all I can say is:
I miss the old Kinggrow1!
I don't give a shit what the others say. Fight or play with them all you want.
Sorry if I got triggered by you earlier and went on about my plants vs yours.
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Brought me down.
Oh well, a toke and some hydrocodone (for the pain ;)) will fix that shortly.

Still gonna post some pics since without pics it didn't happen right?
Maybe somebody out there can sex my catnip plant lol.
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growingforfun

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cleverpiggy said:
So, I just read this whole thread... now what’s the best light?
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Even according to the biggest led fan here, the gavita is the best light for the money. Heisenfail admits if it wasnt for the fact he was trying to hide what hes doing from the power companies he would also be using gavitas. That's why he spent 7,000+ (LOL!) Building those cob setups. All to get around 5,000 watts. For 5,000 watts of gavitas would cost 1,500, or for 7000 watts would cost 2,100. He claims 5000 watts led equals 7000 watts gavita and that's a fair claim.
The electric cost differance is minimal in most parts of the country. Gavita bulbs last 2 years, and LEDs actually last 2-5 years if you read reports around here of the real failure rates.

So basically... if you understand how to control heat properly AND live where it's possible to do so, gavitas are your best bet for the money. If you insist on flowering during the day AND live where it's super hot, use leds.
 
Heisenbeans

Heisenbeans

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growingforfun said:
Even according to the biggest led fan here, the gavita is the best light for the money. Heisenfail admits if it wasnt for the fact he was trying to hide what hes doing from the power companies he would also be using gavitas. That's why he spent 7,000+ (LOL!) Building those cob setups. All to get around 5,000 watts. For 5,000 watts of gavitas would cost 1,500, or for 7000 watts would cost 2,100. He claims 5000 watts led equals 7000 watts gavita and that's a fair claim.
The electric cost differance is minimal in most parts of the country. Gavita bulbs last 2 years, and LEDs actually last 2-5 years if you read reports around here of the real failure rates.

So basically... if you understand how to control heat properly AND live where it's possible to do so, gavitas are your best bet for the money. If you insist on flowering during the day AND live where it's super hot, use leds.
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Always funny to go back and read people's bullshit. Dude I was growing with these lights when you was asking stupid questions and giving I dont know advice lol. SMH

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growingforfun

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Heisenbeans said:
Always funny to go back and read people's bullshit. Dude I was growing with these lights when you was asking stupid questions and giving I dont know advice lol. SMH

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Enjoy your lights, your not even top of the line, overpriced, lights.
Yes they grow weed, many lights do.

You even admitted youd use gavitas if you could your a joke and a horrible salesman. I dont know why you bother being a paid advertiser when all your going to do is end up banned at some point. I've seen people like you come and go so many times but I'm still here making it somehow.
 
Heisenbeans

Heisenbeans

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growingforfun said:
Enjoy your lights, your not even top of the line, overpriced, lights.
Yes they grow weed, many lights do.

You even admitted youd use gavitas if you could your a joke and a horrible salesman. I dont know why you bother being a paid advertiser when all your going to do is end up banned at some point. I've seen people like you come and go so many times but I'm still here making it somehow.
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I dont sell lights lol. I have no affiliation with lights whatsoever. Your wrong again

I was just stating an obvious fact 4 months ago you didnt know Jack now your an expert on them.
 
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growingforfun

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Heisenbeans said:
I dont sell lights lol. I have no affiliation with lights whatsoever. Your wrong again

I was just stating an obvious fact 4 months ago you didnt know Jack now your an expert on them.
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Your TRYING to become a seed seller, and your acting like a dick to your POTENTIAL customer base. Are you retarded?
 
Heisenbeans

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growingforfun said:
Your TRYING to become a seed seller, and your acting like a dick to your POTENTIAL customer base. Are you retarded?
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I never called you names. You called me names first. Just saying if you want some respect your not gonna be entitled to it when you come off calling me names cause I'm stating my opinion.

Besides at the end of the day no one cares if I'm opinionated. All that matters is can the dude make dank seeds.

Here's some straight up fire coming down the pipe right now sitting under 500 watts of cobs. This stuff grows retarded.
GMO
Black banana cookies 9
East coast sour diesel
Wedding pie 6
Ghost OG
Sundae Driver
Purple punch
Mac1
Wedding cake

This is a quarter of what's in the other room.
Stay tuned son. Great things are happening

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Purpsmagurps

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heyooooo! lol watch out for kingrow1. he's extra special for sure. he cant even show pictures of his own shit to back up that his nugs can touch his hps. he refers to "ripping" pics of other peoples grows. thats why I have a graveyard of his posts in my sig. lol I'm pretty sure he doesnt even grow.
 
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growingforfun

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Heisenbeans said:
I never called you names. You called me names first. Just saying if you want some respect your not gonna be entitled to it when you come off calling me names cause I'm stating my opinion.
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I'm not selling anything tho, I'm just calling you retarded. See how that works, dumbass?
 
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growingforfun

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Gavitas, said it 15 pages back, best light for the money on the market. Same light you said youd be using if you could. If I used LEDs, I'd use QB's. But theres no reason to use LEDs at this time when in 2 years they will be actually worth it.
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Yeah that's twice you have insulted me. See the pattern here. You ever figure out what lights your going with?. I can help you with that. Let me know I got you boo.
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growingforfun

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See, you talk shit for nearly 20 pages and all you are doing is driving away potential buyers. Your pissed off I'm calling you retarded for doing so. I'm not calling you a retard for your choice of light, it's for your way of losing money. Its retarded to talk shit to customers.
 
Heisenbeans

Heisenbeans

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growingforfun said:
Gavitas, said it 15 pages back, best light for the money on the market. Same light you said youd be using if you could. If I used LEDs, I'd use QB's. But theres no reason to use LEDs at this time when in 2 years they will be actually worth it.
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It was a never if I could.
It was more of what would make more sense. I would still have an area for the cobs though and would most definitely use them for veg and propagation.

Just would not be cost effective to spend 1200 dollars to light up every 4x5 feet of space in a flower room.

Overhead overlap lighting is still king IMO on commercial size grows.
 
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growingforfun

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Heisenbeans said:
It was a never if I could.
It was more of what would make more sense. I would still have an area for the cobs though and would most definitely use them for veg and propagation.

Just would not be cost effective to spend 1200 dollars to light up every 4x5 feet of space in a flower room.

Overhead overlap lighting is still king IMO on commercial size grows.
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Of course it is. Everyone know these facts... just as everyone knows led will eventually take over, except for kingrow. He thinks 250 watt hps is the best light ever. An science. Lots of s-cry-ance.

I was at every post in this thread, saying both led an hps are good for differant reasons.

And at multiple points calling it stupid to talk shit and argue with customers.

I buy seeds $500 at a time, and before I talked with you, I was interested in clicking the ad. I wonder how many other sales you'll lose before you figure out its retarded to act like you have in this thread.
 
Heisenbeans

Heisenbeans

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growingforfun said:
Of course it is. Everyone know these facts... just as everyone knows led will eventually take over, except for kingrow. He thinks 250 watt hps is the best light ever. An science. Lots of s-cry-ance.

I was at every post in this thread, saying both led an hps are good for differant reasons.

And at multiple points calling it stupid to talk shit and argue with customers.

I buy seeds $500 at a time, and before I talked with you, I was interested in clicking the ad. I wonder how many other sales you'll lose before you figure out its retarded to act like you have in this thread.
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Losing a few sales by voicing my opinion is not going to upset me if thats the way you perceive it. I speak my mind and i dont sell seeds as my only source income. I do it cause i enjoy it and love handing off fire ass genetics to other people.

Maybe you can go to another seed bank where they will sugar coat there words,Hand you lies and bullshit to sound "professional" and lie about what genetics there using and give you males in feminized seeds. Im not here for popularity. I stated my opinions. I only post pics that i took and plants that i grew. If thats to much to handle than there are other seed breeders that would be happy to accommodate you. At least with me you always know where i stand. If i dont got it, I dont got it. No stories or excuses here homie. not gonna make up shit or sell people garbage to turn a few extra dollars. I toss anything that remotely looks like a dud
 
Johnny Lawrence

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growingforfun said:
So basically... if you understand how to control heat properly AND live where it's possible to do so, gavitas are your best bet for the money. If you insist on flowering during the day AND live where it's super hot, use leds.
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It's not just that. Electricity costs more during the day than at night. It just makes more sense to run at night. And we still endure periods of time where it can be 75+ outside at night for weeks at a time during heat waves.

I can run the 6/750 DE in my big room, because it has tall ceilings. Where the 4x8 sits, the garage has lower ceilings(house is built into a hill), so I couldn't run a Gorilla tent with extensions. I'm eventually gonna frame it in, but for now I'm running a Secret Jardin.
 
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growingforfun

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Heisenbeans said:
Losing a few sales by voicing my opinion is not going to upset me if thats the way you perceive it. I speak my mind and i dont sell seeds as my only source income. I do it cause i enjoy it and love handing off fire ass genetics to other people.

Maybe you can go to another seed bank where they will sugar coat there words,Hand you lies and bullshit to sound "professional" and lie about what genetics there using and give you males in feminized seeds. Im not here for popularity. I stated my opinions. I only post pics that i took and plants that i grew. If thats to much to handle than there are other seed breeders that would be happy to accommodate you. At least with me you always know where i stand. If i dont got it, I dont got it. No stories or excuses here homie. not gonna make up shit or sell people garbage to turn a few extra dollars. I toss anything that remotely looks like a dud
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Lots of "I speak my mind" newcomers out there. Your not a pioneer, your a dime a dozen.
 
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