Manchin is going to vote for Kavanaugh

[Unclebaldrick]

I have to disagree on this.
I would rather have him running as a fucking republican and the dems put up a real dem. We just might get what we want instead of SETTLING for a POS like Machin.

I would rather control the speaker's position and control the committees than seek purity. Manchin is a puke, but numbers matter.

 

[blowincherrypie]

I have to disagree on this.
I would rather have him running as a fucking republican and the dems put up a real dem. We just might get what we want instead of SETTLING for a POS like Machin.

a "real dem" doesn't stand a chance in WV.. .. Im not about cutting off my nose to spite my face though

 

[londonfog]

What you’d get is another republican in the senate, plain and simple

I understand what you are saying, but if he keeps holding the seat as a fucking Dem we will NEVER get a chance to get it as Dem. Fuck him and let him become Repuke. He still going to vote how he votes, but we at least get a chance to challenge the seat with a real Dem.. The problem is where in the fuck can we get a real Dem in backwoodsfuck West V

Now excuse me whilst I showered after having to agree with Pada

 

[londonfog]

a "real dem" doesn't stand a chance in WV.. .. Im not about cutting off my nose to spite my face though

And what you say may very well be true, But fuck letting that fuck Machin hold the title as one. Let him go Repuke. He still going to vote the way he always has....and maybe just maybe some real red neck Dem in WV will be born to run

 

[UncleBuck]

I understand what you are saying, but if he keeps holding the seat as a fucking Dem we will NEVER get a chance to get it as Dem. Fuck him and let him become Repuke. He still going to vote how he votes, but we at least get a chance to challenge the seat with a real Dem.. The problem is where in the fuck can we get a real Dem in backwoodsfuck West V

Now excuse me whilst I showered after having to agree with Pada

You have to represent your constituents

To have a dem senator who votes with democrats 77% of the time from a r+40 state is as good as its gonna get

 

[londonfog]

I would rather control the speaker's position and control the committees than seek purity. Manchin is a puke, but numbers matter.

Yup numbers matter and how many times have the Dems counted Machin only to be disappointed. I would rather count him red and focus on true dems. Does me/us no good having the likes of Machin around fucking us

 

[blowincherrypie]

And what you say may very well be true, But fuck letting that fuck Machin hold the title as one. Let him go Repuke. He still going to vote the way he always has....and maybe just maybe some real red neck Dem in WV will be born to run

Im not defending what he's doing.. but if Collins would have voted no, Manchin would have probably followed suit.. If it was a republican it would have just been another notch in the yes tally.. The reason Manchin's getting voted in is because he's a politician and tries to appease the masses.. If he were anymore "real dem" he would lose votes.. then we would have a REAL republican..

I hear what you're saying and I hope you can see the flip side..

 

[Unclebaldrick]

I understand what you are saying, but if he keeps holding the seat as a fucking Dem we will NEVER get a chance to get it as Dem. Fuck him and let him become Repuke. He still going to vote how he votes, but we at least get a chance to challenge the seat with a real Dem.. The problem is where in the fuck can we get a real Dem in backwoodsfuck West V

Now excuse me whilst I showered after having to agree with Pada

Under another President, I might agree with you. But we have Trump. The stakes are too fucking high. Tomorrow will prove my point for the rest of our lives.

What did Churchill say about the devil and Hitler?

 

[UncleBuck]

Yup numbers matter and how many times have the Dems counted Machin only to be disappointed. I would rather count him red and focus on true dems. Does me/us no good having the likes of Machin around fucking us

Manchin would not even be able to win the nomination in wv as a republican

It’s wishful thinking

 

[londonfog]

You have to represent your constituents

To have a dem senator who votes with democrats 77% of the time from a r+40 state is as good as its gonna get

I hate West Virginia. Stupid fucking coal miners awaiting the return of the big coal boom. knew a guy in the military from WV. Cool as shit but dumb as fuck. Very naïve and gullible

 

[londonfog]

Manchin would not even be able to win the nomination in wv as a republican

It’s wishful thinking

And why is that. He can't be trusted by either party.

 

[Unclebaldrick]

Im not defending what he's doing.. but if Collins would have voted no, Manchin would have probably followed suit.. If it was a republican it would have just been another notch in the yes tally

I think you might be right. But he should consider Pad's feelings more. Pad's really sore. Super disappointed.

 

[londonfog]

Im not defending what he's doing.. but if Collins would have voted no, Manchin would have probably followed suit.. If it was a republican it would have just been another notch in the yes tally.. The reason Manchin's getting voted in is because he's a politician and tries to appease the masses.. If he were anymore "real dem" he would lose votes.. then we would have a REAL republican..

I hear what you're saying and I hope you can see the flip side..

Yeah I do . I'm just upset right now. We are losing as a country

 

[londonfog]

I think you might be right. But he should consider Pad's feelings more. Pad's really sore. Super disappointed.

Hell I'm fucking sore too . I find myself agreeing with Pada. That makes me super sad as well

 

[Unclebaldrick]

Yup numbers matter and how many times have the Dems counted Machin only to be disappointed. I would rather count him red and focus on true dems. Does me/us no good having the likes of Machin around fucking us

His vote wouldn't change the speaker's party or the committee chairs. Turtleboy McConnell stole a SCOTUS appointment and needed very little help to do it. I am not suggesting the Dems should do likewise but they could prevent it with control of the Senate.

 

[Unclebaldrick]

Kavanaugh getting confirmed by 51 votes is pretty bad but 52 votes is a catastrophe!

 

[londonfog]

His vote wouldn't change the speaker's party or the committee chairs. Turtleboy McConnell stole a SCOTUS appointment and needed very little help to do it. I am not suggesting the Dems should do likewise but they could prevent it with control of the Senate.

elections have consequences

 

[blowincherrypie]

Tomorrow will be why, as much as I support his message, I hate Kaepernick as much as Trump.. To be in front of cameras and say he wasn't going to vote because "it "didn't matter" who won the election because neither candidate was a good choice." " was just irresponsible as hell.. As much as I understood the sentiment, I understood the real life ramifications.. RBG is in good health, but almost 100 or something.. She should have bowed out when Big O got re-elected.. God forbid something happens to her... (and Im not even religious lol)

Manchin is a bitch for this, but he's a politician doing what politicians do.

 

[londonfog]

Tomorrow will be why, as much as I support his message, I hate Kaepernick as much as Trump.. To be in front of cameras and say he wasn't going to vote because "it "didn't matter" who won the election because neither candidate was a good choice." " was just irresponsible as hell.. As much as I understood the sentiment, I understood the real life ramifications.. RBG is in good health, but almost 100 or something.. She should have bowed out when Big O got re-elected.. God forbid something happens to her... (and Im not even religious lol)

Manchin is a bitch for this, but he's a politician doing what politicians do.

Hell if RBG would have retired the Repukes would have found a way to not bring the vote. The Dems went soft on this ...now we pay

 

[blowincherrypie]

Hell if RBG would have retired the Repukes would have found a way to not bring the vote. The Dems went soft on this ...now we pay

If she would have retired right when he was re-elected they probably wouldnt have been able to hold it up 4 years.. I hear what you're sayin tho