That's your only response guess you cant prove it gg
DIY with Quantum Boards
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CCCmints
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No, I'm serious. Its not a coherent string of words. Make it coherent and I will respond.
Dying company*
Product they have no rights to sold cheaper by respected millionaire Chinese vendors*
I forgot a period get over it I type from a cellphone if you couldn't figure out what I was saying then you won't be able to answer.
CCCmints
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You're having a lot of trouble answering quite a few questions of mine, and you're forgetting a bit more than a period there lmfao.
But please, could you stop deflecting, and tell me how this is not related to cannabis? https://www.cycloptics.com/sites/default/files/No Utah State Spectral Characterization Study.pdf
CCCmints
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So they can't set up a manufacturing video in the US but actually produce their product in China at the same time? Its kinda funny they ever had to in the first place. Where's my company? In R&D. There's nothing to be jealous of man. You guys can't understand basic shit, but you think you're experts. That's the worst way to be. Your idea for a business strategy probably directly correlates to your net worth.
Aolelon
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Why do you keep spewing out about commercial operations without knowing their target demographic. Why would they produce a commercial light, if they are not trying to sell to commercial growers.
It's obvious the only reason you're in this thread is jealousy, or your mad at them lol. I find it hilarious tbh.
Even with Chinese manufacturers selling these boards for cheaper. The HLG name is out and is what people are looking for.
Such a sad little man.
nfhiggs
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Just curious - why would commercial operations care about patents? Certifications, UL etc., yeah I can see that, but patents? Whats the rationale there?
pop22
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If they got the attention of Samsung........ the trolls may as well go back under their bridge lol! Lets see the Cheepy Chinese compete with them on a quality basis!
I bet the guys threw a party when they nailed that deal! Kudos to HLG!
I bet the guys threw a party when they nailed that deal! Kudos to HLG!
pop22
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619kt619
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What exactly am I wrong about here? because it is a 100 percent true statement that companies withhold as much information as they can get away with. Why do magicians not reveal their secrets? so that people cannot copy it or have insight that could otherwise take away from the awe that is the product.
I know you can't show your product because you are in 'R&D'. The only business I would operate that sold products would be reoccurring consumables like food. Nothing that could be copied like an invention, I much prefer providing services and consulting before I would look at investing in large inventories with no guaranteed sales.
I have read all your post since Thursday/Friday when you started this fiasco and all I have gather is that you are making a 'light', you have engineers but you are not one and that these lights will be controlled from an app. nothing about lighting tech, the diodes you are using, fixture design, or anything overly unique/cutting edge.
If you could read my post you would see that you have responded incorrectly to them.
1. Authorities can make companies deliver information that is not necessarily public. All companies have private information or things that should not be clear and easy to understand to protect their interests (Your response of not observing Trump to how you conduct business does not retort to my true statement)
2. I said nothing about Canadian operations, I said I am looking at a lighting company in Canada that I believe is "leading" the led innovation at the moment.
and then you never responded to my question about knowing what an IP rating is. how does an IP rating apply to your "product"?
I feel like you are the substitute teacher who, while smart and may have the credentials, doesn't have the slightest clue.
Aolelon
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its obvious he's here because HLG will be the competition. What better way then to go to the competitions thread and start shit.
I am surprised there hasn't been a name drop yet.
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619kt619
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Like @pop22 said I would ignore someone who was trashing on me and started bring up topics like net worth without knowing you or your dealings. He ain't an advertiser, doesn't have sales yet, nor a business plug to check out a product. It's great that he is trying to create a business, but with no sales and no way to see what he is developing who is he really? Even if his supposed product is legit it don't mean shit if he can't market it and get sales to recoup his investment
Humple
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Dude, you've made a lot of posts. I have no clue what you're on about. But if you're hoping to pull me into a debate, forget it. I have no stake in this silly argument. You make a lot of claims about what you're going to do and then tell us that we'll never know that you made good on them. Okay? You also make a lot of accusations. Again, okay. People making big talk come and go. I'm not making any predictions about where the market or any of the players will be a year from now, but I guess we'll see, won't we? If HLG is still selling strong, will you come back to this thread to explain why, despite your prediction that they're on their way out? Do or don't, whatever, man. I honestly don't care if you're right or wrong, but I know I don't respect the way you communicate with people, so let's just leave it at that.
coreywebster
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He is a guy who came on here last year or possibly not even that long ago. He was learning about LEDs, jumped on the HLG550 as a 1000w HPS replacement, went straight at half the HPS regulars telling them how he could grow X with Y how he could pull Z.GPW without actually doing any of it, zero experience to back him up. Spent ages insulting them and telling them how inefficient their old street lights were and how stupid they were for using them. Then I assume he bought an apogee found the numbers were not as he thought and decided instead of saying "ah shit I was wrong and look like a fool" to just start calling out HLG as some sort of sham company. Still no grow experience with them, just a tool with a tool!
I very much doubt he is developing anything, if he were would he be asking peoples opinions on $40 spectrometers?
I very much doubt he is developing anything, if he were would he be asking peoples opinions on $40 spectrometers?
Frank Nitty
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Im done... This thread is dead for me... Im not getting anything useful out of this... Lights.Grow.Marijuana... Lets talk about that... If not, deuces...
fragileassassin
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I feel about the same.. I guess we've gotten as much out of this thread as we're going to.
Frank Nitty
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So start something new... How about Diy Quantum Board Grows,Past and Present? Cause this dude is going to beat us to death with this other bs...
CCCmints
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No, and its absolutely hilarious that you say that in a matter of fact fashion. The analogy is also hilarious.
Then what are you confused about? That's fine, I like that business model. You should start working on it. How is someone going to copy my patented invention? I'll have 10 years to develop processes which cannot be trumped. I think we'll be OK in that respect. No problem. That isn’t how this works. We’ve invested in a small initial inventory, and have investors who are awaiting further scientific documentation, amongst other things, to determine how much they need to contribute. At our price points, sales are pretty much guaranteed. There’s no reason to believe, with what people purchase in this market at this time, that at our price points our fixtures will not sell. How successful it will be, has yet to be determined. Time will tell. Also, everything we’ve invested, would have absolutely 0 impact on our lives if this failed. So there’s also that to consider. Why do you think I have so much time?
Because we are in R&D.
1. I do not believe this is an absolute requirement for business. I’m one of the people in this world who believe nothing is impossible and anything can be achieved. I truly do believe I can create a fully transparent business, with real science showcased in true scientific fashion, which has not really been done in this field yet for a lighting system company that I know of. Even fluence has .science as their TLD, yet the information is 100% without a doubt not presented in true scientific fashion. Would you agree?
2. And I was commenting on that, by informing you that we are already in talks with large Canadian commercial operations, who are in the process of researching lighting systems to outfit their facilities. I'm sure they know about whatever it is you're talking about, yet they are still interested in us for some reason.
We are not yet at the stage where we are concerned about being scored for an IP rating.
I feel like, if you can admit that you think I am smart, after taking part in trying to laugh me out of here, you actually do believe I have somewhat of a clue. But hey, I could be wrong.
Hey look someone finally figured out the incentive for posting on this thread. Kudos to you! Its just, before July 10th, HLG was a (marginally) bigger concern for us. That’s not the case anymore. But a lot of this is already on auto-pilot, so I’ve got all the time in the world. I have no problem discussing this topic and learning as much as I possibly can from people who spend their money in this market. It doesn't much matter to me if you guys can't make sense out of my posts, or don't make sense at all. I'm just interested in learning how your minds work.
We’ve got a rockstar marketing director with decades of experience who has led teams for projects which were broadcasted on national television and are probably in some of your homes right now, alongside several patents. I’ll tell you who I am right now in this, nobody; a ghost. I am completely aware of that.
This forum has a feature where you can check how long someone’s been here, so try using that next time. And for the rest, what a ramble! The lights are running right now, and we've got an MK350 on the way as of today. I think its worth more than $40. I just like to research how to build things before I purchase them. Its a method of operation for me. Try it.
Why would you start a company, if you don’t want to be the best? Maybe I just don’t understand that philosophy. If that is their philosophy, well then by all means, they can have that sector. Even though we’ve got products designed for that demographic as well, so their will still be some competition. I don't know if you've noticed, but the 'HLG name', is starting to become a bit tarnished.
I’m not sure, actually. The person who connected me with the Canadian operation said they are not interested unless its in the process of being patented. But it is, so they are interested, and we of-course hope to do something with them. I’m not getting my hopes up for that just yet though.
Show me where they got the attention of Samsung, because I do not think that is confirmed, and its really not a very sensible thing to believe to be true. They didn’t nail any deals, you know that right? It would be public knowledge if they were really “The official horticulture partners of Samsung”. Samsung produces products which compete with quantum boards, so I’m not sure how you guys even have the capability of believing in such an unlikely scenario.
Like I said before, all HLG has is the trademarked term, ‘Quantum Board’. If Samsung is interested in that, they will buy it for pennies. They aren’t ‘partnering’ with them. Why would they?
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Frank Nitty
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I started a new thread for diy qb and led strip growers... As long as we're giving him an audience he'll keep on talking... Let him talk to himself... Im gone... I came to talk about growing ,not all of this other crap...I SO love the Ignore buton! Try it,, you'll like it!
CCCmints
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I’m sure you don’t, so I’m not surprised you don’t want to debate. I don’t care about the reputation of this forum account. It will be abandoned, and even if its connected to my business in the future, I will not care. You’re right, big talk, come and go; HLG. I am, and you’re right. Quantum boards will probably still sell well, but HLG won’t be the primary provider of that product, I assure you. Probably not, because at that point this account will likely be abandoned. I don’t respect the way most of you communicate. I communicate with respectful people just fine (check out @booms111 and I's exchange), but if you disrespect me, I will run you the fuck over like I have several times here already.
I mean look at you for example, you have literally admitted you have no clue what I'm talking about. If you don't understand the topic, why would you even bring up the word 'debate'?
Peace. This is working pretty well.
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