DIY with Quantum Boards

[CCCmints]

Personally I'd buy knock offs if there equal quality but they would also need to have good customer service. When i did have a issue HLG sent me new replacement board no questions asked which I much appreciated. So far I have 8 hlg quantum boards and the jury's still out in my opinion on them compared to other lights. There good lights just not the end all be all best light ever. I understand they are easy to copy and HLG can't patent them so it's going to be a free for all until somebody steps up and makes a more polished rig similar to the blurples in nice cases with fans and switches and all pretty or better technology like light your talking about designing comes along.

Everyone would, and they will be equal quality because its super simple, cheap tech that isn't hard to acquire. Can you imagine how cheap people like Jerry get those LM561Cs for? Its not hard to imagine he isn't in a position where he needs to skimp on the other very simple components which comprise this fixture. And he knows the demand already, HLG created it for him. Its a no-brainer.

The future of indoor lighting isn't going to look like quantum boards or blurples, and there will be no active fans on the unit necessary. The systems are going to come with iphone apps with wireless connectivity to the fixtures and modules you can install to your other appliances to have a master controller application on your phone. Nice displays with rotary turn nobs and up/down buttons etc. The people who are going to take this throne are going to get a lot fancier than HLG, trust me.

 

[booms111]

Everyone would, and they will be equal quality because its super simple, cheap tech that isn't hard to acquire. Can you imagine how cheap people like Jerry get those LM561Cs for? Its not hard to imagine he isn't in a position where he needs to skimp on the other very simple components which comprise this fixture. And he knows the demand already, HLG created it for him. Its a no-brainer.

The future of indoor lighting isn't going to look like quantum boards or blurples, and there will be no active fans on the unit necessary. The systems are going to come with iphone apps with wireless connectivity to the fixtures and modules you can install to your other appliances to have a master controller application on your phone. Nice displays with rotary turn nobs and up/down buttons etc. The people who are going to take this throne are going to get a lot fancier than HLG, trust me.

Leds are ridiculously cheap. I use to be heavily into pinball and I'd build under cabinet kits with Leds that I'd buy by the roll for next to nothing.

I like where your going with future lighting!

 

[CCCmints]

Leds are ridiculously cheap. I use to be heavily into pinball and I'd build under cabinet kits with Leds that I'd buy by the roll for next to nothing.

I like where your going with future lighting!

Yep.

Thanks man! We're working day and night to make this happen. I barely sleep, just like a few of our team members I'll shoot you a link to the site once we launch. Its already fully developed, just locked for now. Might even give you a discount code if you're interested since you gave me the pleasure of having a logical exchange on this thread.

Peace and love.

 

[Ryante55]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23572895#

There are tons of academic studies being conducted regarding cannabis right now. Its just some people know that, and some people don't. Its typically the people who use google as their primary research source who don't know.

Yeah "being conducted right now" that's the problem

Everyone would, and they will be equal quality because its super simple, cheap tech that isn't hard to acquire. Can you imagine how cheap people like Jerry get those LM561Cs for? Its not hard to imagine he isn't in a position where he needs to skimp on the other very simple components which comprise this fixture. And he knows the demand already, HLG created it for him. Its a no-brainer.

The future of indoor lighting isn't going to look like quantum boards or blurples, and there will be no active fans on the unit necessary. The systems are going to come with iphone apps with wireless connectivity to the fixtures and modules you can install to your other appliances to have a master controller application on your phone. Nice displays with rotary turn nobs and up/down buttons etc. The people who are going to take this throne are going to get a lot fancier than HLG, trust me.

Yeah that's all the stuff hlg is working on they have talked about it. If you want to spend the money go with chilled you could have all that now. You are to focused on the few products they sell now do you really think that's all they will make?

 

[Aolelon]

Lol sounds like jealousy. They seem to be doing extremely well for a product that's "going out". Chinese make a knockoff of most lights, and tbh, most things. That's China for you. I dont doubt for 1 minute that there is a reason they are cheaper. Even if they arent. I'd support an American company over a Chinese company any day.
It's funny how you know how well their business is doing, when you are just here running your mouth about their company, advocating buying their design from a Chinese dealer, while simultaneously talking shit on them.
Even if they had a patent, you think that would stop China from producing them? Negative.

 

[CCCmints]

Yeah "being conducted right now" that's the problem

Yeah that's all the stuff hlg is working on they have talked about it. If you want to spend the money go with chilled you could have all that now. You are to focused on the few products they sell now do you really think that's all they will make?

And relevant studies are constantly being published...? I don't see the problem you're seeing, but we're likely looking in very different areas of the internet and world. Is this one related to cannabis? Could this be useful? https://www.cycloptics.com/sites/default/files/No Utah State Spectral Characterization Study.pdf

HLG is dead. ChilLed is far from concerning. Very poorly designed products, and extremely expensive for what they are.

Lol sounds like jealousy. They seem to be doing extremely well for a product that's "going out". Chinese make a knockoff of most lights, and tbh, most things. That's China for you. I dont doubt for 1 minute that there is a reason they are cheaper. Even if they arent. I'd support an American company over a Chinese company any day.
It's funny how you know how well their business is doing, when you are just here running your mouth about their company, advocating buying their design from a Chinese dealer, while simultaneously talking shit on them.
Even if they had a patent, you think that would stop China from producing them? Negative.

Good point. So even if they had a patent, they're fucked. Try reading the latest content of this thread, and then say again that they are "doing extremely well". I wish China good luck creating a knock off for fixtures which take a real manufacturing process to produce, and require the use of expensive diodes created by huge companies. They're cheaper because Jerry is a multi-millionare and has probably lived in China his entire life, meaning he has much better connections than HLG ever could acquire. But they have no interest in allocating resources to competing with their customers. KingBrite's primary target market, is people interested in COB LED. Why would he put effort towards competing with his customers? And what makes you think HLG is an "American Company"? They probably still manufacture their boards in China, just created a rumor that they stopped once word got out that's what they're doing. Where's the proof they aren't still manufacturing their products in China?

Why do you keep calling it "their design"? Could you link me to the patent? I don't think they own any designs, just a trademark for a term that will be irrelevant in >6 months.

 

[619kt619]

You seem really, really upset. Just be ready for companies to come into this market without having to display blatant lies on the front page of their site to con people who can't even run simple tests before spending thousands of dollars. It is possible to be a transparent company. Do you think that doesnt exist?

You will never see quantum boards in large-scale commercial operations. Want to put some money on that?

You are talking about this post? When did I say that this product is viable for commercial use? I have no interest in commercial until the feds stop knocking down doors.

Also as to your question on transparency, no. Companies will withhold as much information as possible to protect as much as they can. Why do you think Trump and other government authorities have to demand that information be turned over? Like you with your "product" that you 'can't show at this stage' where is your transparency? all you have talked about is how your "product" uses an application as a master controller for your lights, which is totally already a thing. It sounds like you are developing software and an IoT kind of product more so then a new light

I currently am looking a lighting company in Canada that has some game changing products and what I see as the standard for led innovation. I would just never spent the kind of money they are asking for in a personal setup. In a commercial one hell yeah, but that ain't me

I have said it before on this thread the future of led is a broad spectrum 'white' light fixture as the majority of a lights output with supplemental light in different bands to enhance and target specific responses out of the crop. like UV, Far and Photo reds, adding more blues in veg and more reds in flower. Having complete control over the spectrum bands is what commercial outfits will demand.

And like @Ryante55 said, HLG is not done innovating and coming up with new products. However, they won't capture a lot of commercial business until they put their lights in fixtures that protect again water damage and fire hazards. you know right? an IP rating. Because legit operations will not pass an inspection with light fixtures that can be damaged from water and create a fire hazard potential.

 

[Ryante55]

And relevant studies are constantly being published...? I don't see the problem you're seeing, but we're likely looking in very different areas of the internet and world. Is this one related to cannabis? Could this be useful? https://www.cycloptics.com/sites/default/files/No Utah State Spectral Characterization Study.pdf

HLG is dead. ChilLed is far from concerning. Very poorly designed products, and extremely expensive for what they are.
Good point. So even if they had a patent, they're fucked. Try reading the latest content of this thread, and then say again that they are "doing extremely well". I wish China good luck creating a knock off for fixtures which take a real manufacturing process to produce, and require the use of expensive diodes created by huge companies. They're cheaper because Jerry is a multi-millionare and has probably lived in China his entire life, meaning he has much better connections than HLG ever could acquire. But they have no interest in allocating resources to competing with their customers. KingBrite's primary target market, is people interested in COB LED. Why would he put effort towards competing with his customers? And what makes you think HLG is an "American Company"? They probably still manufacture their boards in China, just created a rumor that they stopped once word got out that's what they're doing. Where's the proof they aren't still manufacturing their products in China?

Why do you keep calling it "their design"? Could you link me to the patent? I don't think they own any designs, just a trademark for a term that will be irrelevant in >6 months.

Dude you are crazy not even worth talking to

 

[Ryante55]

You are talking about this post? When did I say that this product is viable for commercial use? I have no interest in commercial until the feds stop knocking down doors.

Also as to your question on transparency, no. Companies will withhold as much information as possible to protect as much as they can. Why do you think Trump and other government authorities have to demand that information be turned over? Like you with your "product" that you 'can't show at this stage' where is your transparency? all you have talked about is how your "product" uses an application as a master controller for your lights, which is totally already a thing. It sounds like you are developing software and an IoT kind of product more so then a new light

I currently am looking a lighting company in Canada that has some game changing products and what I see as the standard for led innovation. I would just never spent the kind of money they are asking for in a personal setup. In a commercial one hell yeah, but that ain't me

I have said it before on this thread the future of led is a broad spectrum 'white' light fixture as the majority of a lights output with supplemental light in different bands to enhance and target specific responses out of the crop. like UV, Far and Photo reds, adding more blues in veg and more reds in flower. Having complete control over the spectrum bands is what commercial outfits will demand.

And like @Ryante55 said, HLG is not done innovating and coming up with new products. However, they won't capture a lot of commercial business until they put their lights in fixtures that protect again water damage and fire hazards. you know right? an IP rating. Because legit operations will not pass an inspection with light fixtures that can be damaged from water and create a fire hazard potential.

@CCCmints will probably just rebrand some blurple crap an try to sell it at this point it's clear he's just a clueless troll that posts random "science" that has nothing to do with weed

 

[pop22]

Some greenhouse bud

 

[Aolelon]

And relevant studies are constantly being published...? I don't see the problem you're seeing, but we're likely looking in very different areas of the internet and world. Is this one related to cannabis? Could this be useful? https://www.cycloptics.com/sites/default/files/No Utah State Spectral Characterization Study.pdf

HLG is dead. ChilLed is far from concerning. Very poorly designed products, and extremely expensive for what they are.
Good point. So even if they had a patent, they're fucked. Try reading the latest content of this thread, and then say again that they are "doing extremely well". I wish China good luck creating a knock off for fixtures which take a real manufacturing process to produce, and require the use of expensive diodes created by huge companies. They're cheaper because Jerry is a multi-millionare and has probably lived in China his entire life, meaning he has much better connections than HLG ever could acquire. But they have no interest in allocating resources to competing with their customers. KingBrite's primary target market, is people interested in COB LED. Why would he put effort towards competing with his customers? And what makes you think HLG is an "American Company"? They probably still manufacture their boards in China, just created a rumor that they stopped once word got out that's what they're doing. Where's the proof they aren't still manufacturing their products in China?

Why do you keep calling it "their design"? Could you link me to the patent? I don't think they own any designs, just a trademark for a term that will be irrelevant in >6 months.

They've posted more than enough videos of their boards being manufactured here. I highly doubt they flew to China to make the videos. You do know they are acquiring the machines to put together their own PCBs right so they no longer have to outsource their products to any company. It's funny how certain you are that their company is going out. Where's your company? Set to release correct? That's why I say its jealousy. Such an easy product, and you can see how many people are attempting to profit off it, it's hilarious how little innovation some of these people have.
You're so concerned about them never becoming a commercial supplier. How do you know that's even their target demographic. If I was selling a light, it would be to compete with the Amazon blurples that all the new growers seem to still buy for their first light. And it seems like that's exactly what they did.

 

[Ryante55]

And relevant studies are constantly being published...? I don't see the problem you're seeing, but we're likely looking in very different areas of the internet and world. Is this one related to cannabis? Could this be useful? https://www.cycloptics.com/sites/default/files/No Utah State Spectral Characterization Study.pdf

HLG is dead. ChilLed is far from concerning. Very poorly designed products, and extremely expensive for what they are.
Good point. So even if they had a patent, they're fucked. Try reading the latest content of this thread, and then say again that they are "doing extremely well". I wish China good luck creating a knock off for fixtures which take a real manufacturing process to produce, and require the use of expensive diodes created by huge companies. They're cheaper because Jerry is a multi-millionare and has probably lived in China his entire life, meaning he has much better connections than HLG ever could acquire. But they have no interest in allocating resources to competing with their customers. KingBrite's primary target market, is people interested in COB LED. Why would he put effort towards competing with his customers? And what makes you think HLG is an "American Company"? They probably still manufacture their boards in China, just created a rumor that they stopped once word got out that's what they're doing. Where's the proof they aren't still manufacturing their products in China?

Why do you keep calling it "their design"? Could you link me to the patent? I don't think they own any designs, just a trademark for a term that will be irrelevant in >6 months.

Yeah dude having Samsung make the boards is a bad connection I'm sure Jerry from Alibaba can do much better than Samsung...

 

[619kt619]

Dude you are crazy not even worth talking to

Most leading research is happening in Israel right now. Their science is not limited by laws in their country

 

[Ryante55]

They've posted more than enough videos of their boards being manufactured here. I highly doubt they flew to China to make the videos. You do know they are acquiring the machines to put together their own PCBs right so they no longer have to outsource their products to any company. It's funny how certain you are that their company is going out. Where's your company? Set to release correct? That's why I say its jealousy. Such an easy product, and you can see how many people are attempting to profit off it, it's hilarious how little innovation some of these people have.
You're so concerned about them never becoming a commercial supplier. How do you know that's even their target demographic. If I was selling a light, it would be to compete with the Amazon blurples that all the new growers seem to still buy for their first light. And it seems like that's exactly what they did.

He clearly hasn't heard about the elite or the greenhouse fixture they are finishing right now I can promise you hlg has more commercial fixture pre order than cccmints can dream of

 

[CCCmints]

@CCCmints will probably just rebrand some blurple crap an try to sell it at this point it's clear he's just a clueless troll that posts random "science" that has nothing to do with weed

You do realize you basically are supporting a white LED blurple right? Lol. HLG is basically what you're saying I'm going to do. And that science very much has to do with cannabis, LOL.

You are talking about this post? When did I say that this product is viable for commercial use? I have no interest in commercial until the feds stop knocking down doors.

Also as to your question on transparency, no. Companies will withhold as much information as possible to protect as much as they can. Why do you think Trump and other government authorities have to demand that information be turned over? Like you with your "product" that you 'can't show at this stage' where is your transparency? all you have talked about is how your "product" uses an application as a master controller for your lights, which is totally already a thing. It sounds like you are developing software and an IoT kind of product more so then a new light

I currently am looking a lighting company in Canada that has some game changing products and what I see as the standard for led innovation. I would just never spent the kind of money they are asking for in a personal setup. In a commercial one hell yeah, but that ain't me

I have said it before on this thread the future of led is a broad spectrum 'white' light fixture as the majority of a lights output with supplemental light in different bands to enhance and target specific responses out of the crop. like UV, Far and Photo reds, adding more blues in veg and more reds in flower. Having complete control over the spectrum bands is what commercial outfits will demand.

And like @Ryante55 said, HLG is not done innovating and coming up with new products. However, they won't capture a lot of commercial business until they put their lights in fixtures that protect again water damage and fire hazards. you know right? an IP rating. Because legit operations will not pass an inspection with light fixtures that can be damaged from water and create a fire hazard potential.

Wrong. I don't observe Trump to determine how I should conduct business. Obviously I can't show the product at this stage, have you ever been in business before? I've talked about a hell of a lot more than that. If you could read, you'd be producing much better responses. I'm currently involved with Canada commercial operations.

Dude you are crazy not even worth talking to

You got schooled, carry on.

Yeah dude having Samsung make the boards is a bad connection I'm sure Jerry from Alibaba can do much better than Samsung...

But they don't, prove it. And they don't own any designs, prove that wrong too.

I feel like I'm the substitute teacher for a group of unruly school children.

 

[Ryante55]

Most leading research is happening in Israel right now. Their science is not limited by laws in their country

Awesome I didn't know that I'll check it out!

 

[CCCmints]

He clearly hasn't heard about the elite or the greenhouse fixture they are finishing right now I can promise you hlg has more commercial fixture pre order than cccmints can dream of

Commercial operations will not run their systems if they are not patented. They do not have patentable material. Connect the dots.

Awesome I didn't know that I'll check it out!

What's the point in you checking it out? You can't even recognize this lab report is related to cannabis lOl. https://www.cycloptics.com/sites/default/files/No Utah State Spectral Characterization Study.pdf

 

[Ryante55]

You do realize you basically are supporting a white LED blurple right? Lol. HLG is basically what you're saying I'm going to do. And that science very much has to do with cannabis, LOL.

Wrong. I don't observe Trump to determine how I should conduct business. Obviously I can't show the product at this stage, have you ever been in business before? I've talked about a hell of a lot more than that. If you could read, you'd be producing much better responses. I'm currently involved with Canada commercial operations.

You got schooled, carry on.

But they don't, prove it. And they don't own any designs, prove that wrong too.

I feel like I'm the substitute teacher for a group of unruly school children.

Prove they don't all the 288 v2 come from Samsung I guess your the one that got "schooled"

 

[CCCmints]

Prove they don't all the 288 v2 come from Samsung I guess your the one that got "schooled"

Can you make that coherent so I can respond properly?

 

[Ryante55]

Commercial operations will not run their systems if they are not patented. They do not have patentable material. Connect the dots.

At least they currently have a product unlike your fictional company that has to resort to talking shit on a different companies thread your product must really suck if this is how you advertise