Neoliberalism has wrecked the planet

Fogdog

Fogdog

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ttystikk said:
General Mattis admits the US has no evidence Assad used chemical weapons in Syria;

https://apnews.com/bd533182b7f244a4b771c73a0b601ec5

Oh, really? Then why are we attacking them anyway?

Because we can't be seen to be letting Russia win.

Yay, more war profits for neoliberals.
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What's it called when an argument depends on linking two ideas that have nothing to do with each other? There has to be a name for this kind of fallacy.
 
ttystikk

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http://www.ianwelsh.net/the-unemployment-rate-isnt-used-to-keep-unemployment-low-with-graph/

An excellent explanation for why wages aren't tossing even as unemployment falls. Classic neoliberal theory to prioritize inflation control over wages and benefits to workers because banksters hate inflation so much they're willing to crush the economy to keep it under control.

It turns out that inflation isn't so bad for consumers as wages rise to keep pace. Loan balances don't, though.
 
Fogdog

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ttystikk said:
Have you read your responses lately? I think you're taking debate lessons from a troll bot.
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Fogdog said:
One of the Cult of Sanders axioms is the "Democratic Party's Business Model" completely explains Democratic losses over the past 15 years. The problem with calling it a "model" as it's explained by @Padawanbater2 and used by but not understood by @ttystikk is that it's not a model at all and isn't useful to predict outcomes.

The following is a non-cultist model that uses demographic shifts that explains past results much better and the rather loosely defined and model that The Cult of Sanders Uses. I post this here as a counter-example of the one proposed by Bernie Sanders and to show that there are better ways to predict results than simple belief in the manner that The Cult of Sanders uses.

https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/democracy/reports/2018/04/14/449461/americas-electoral-future-2/

The recent elections of Donald Trump and Barack Obama were influenced in no small measure by shifts in the nation’s underlying demographic structure—the rise of communities of color, the increase in the number of older Americans, the sharpening of education divisions—and the distinctive voting behavior of these demographic groups. This 2018 report of the States of Change project, the fourth in an annual series,1 examines an array of future presidential election outcome scenarios—from 2020 through 2036—that could arise as the demography of the nation and its 50 states changes over the next 18 years.

These scenarios, developed by the authors, include outcomes that favor both Republican and Democratic candidates. They are not intended as predictions but are simulations based on assumptions about different demographic groups’ future voting patterns. Each of the alternative scenarios assumes the same projections for the nation’s underlying demographic structure of eligible voters (EVs) with respect to race, age, and education attainment. As such, the scenarios provide for a more in-depth understanding than national or state polling trends can supply about how emerging voting patterns may interact with changes in the demography of the nation’s electorate to affect future popular vote and Electoral College outcomes.

Note that this is based upon fundamental facts such as predictable shifts in demographics away from conservative white majority to a more diverse society by 2036. What cannot be predicted is how attitudes will shift over time. The authors deal with this by running simulations using various possible shifts in attitudes within demographic groups. For example, a shift towards Republican values by Hispanic demographic would yield a different result than if the Hispanic group remains in the more liberal and Democratic Party's camp.

A conclusion from multiple runs using this model based upon known future shifts in demographics as an underlying explanation for election results: that outcomes like the one in 2016 are more likely to occur over the next decade than not. Later on, the country will move into a more stable and liberal era of governance.
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When the boys came out to play, Georgy Porgy ran away.
 
ttystikk

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https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/04/14/okla-a14.html

The teachers on strike in Oklahoma have been sold out by the union that says it represents them.

The Democrats in Oklahoma have voted to cut taxes on corporations and then cut school funding to pay for it. Who needs Republicans?

The teachers themselves have actually been labeled 'terrorists' by the local police, amazingly enough.

Teacher's organizations across the country are reaching out and beginning to coordinate a national plan of action.

Can you say, flashpoint for change in America?
 
Fogdog

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ttystikk said:
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/04/14/okla-a14.html

The teachers on strike in Oklahoma have been sold out by the union that says it represents them.

The Democrats in Oklahoma have voted to cut taxes on corporations and then cut school funding to pay for it. Who needs Republicans?

The teachers themselves have actually been labeled 'terrorists' by the local police, amazingly enough.

Teacher's organizations across the country are reaching out and beginning to coordinate a national plan of action.

Can you say, flashpoint for change in America?
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What has been mistakenly called a union that is "forcing teachers back to work" is the Oklahoma Teachers Association, a professional association of teachers, administrators and retired educators. It has no collective bargaining authority. Near as I can tell, there is no teachers union in Oklahoma. The result of no union is walkouts like this because everything is dictated by Republicans who control the government in that state. I hope that teachers do come together and unionize but right now, that quote by somebody in the OEA "calling an end to the strike" is false. The association doesn't have the authority to do that.

Again, your bias against Democrats makes you out to be even more foolish as if that is possible anymore. Republicans are in control of the government in Oklahoma. Democrats have voted for bills that would have increased spending but those bills were stopped by Republicans. You and that rag you posted manufactured a role for a Chimera of malicious Democrats. Neither the role nor the malicious Democrats exist. With all the shitty things that Republicans are doing why do you feel the need to repeat some shitty false stories about Democrats?
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Fogdog said:
What has been mistakenly called a union that is "forcing teachers back to work" is the Oklahoma Teachers Association, a professional association of teachers, administrators and retired educators. It has no collective bargaining authority. Near as I can tell, there is no teachers union in Oklahoma. The result of no union is walkouts like this because everything is dictated by Republicans who control the government in that state. I hope that teachers do come together and unionize but right now, that quote by somebody in the OEA "calling an end to the strike" is false. The association doesn't have the authority to do that.

Again, your bias against Democrats makes you out to be even more foolish as if that is possible anymore. Republicans are in control of the government in Oklahoma. Democrats have voted for bills that would have increased spending but those bills were stopped by Republicans. You and that rag you posted manufactured a role for a Chimera of malicious Democrats. Neither the role nor the malicious Democrats exist. With all the shitty things that Republicans are doing why do you feel the need to repeat some shitty false stories about Democrats?
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So do tell us, oh hyper informed one, exactly what is the Democratic Party doing FOR teachers in Oklahoma, or for that matter anywhere else?

Crickets.

Not a damned thing.

But keep believing in them, for all the good it does you.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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The results of a study done on the reporting of tax policy by the New York Times and the USA today, showing a clear and ongoing bias against the general public'' interest in progressive tax policy;

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2018/04/americans-hatred-taxes-fake-news.html

Smogdog, don't read this. It will only confuse your omniscient grasp of world events and their coverage.

For everyone else, this is more evidence that neoliberalism has infected America's mass media for decades.

Small wonder we're in so much fiscal trouble.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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ttystikk said:
So do tell us, oh hyper informed one, exactly what is the Democratic Party doing FOR teachers in Oklahoma, or for that matter anywhere else?

Crickets.

Not a damned thing.

But keep believing in them, for all the good it does you.
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Are you really criticizing me for having read about this issue? Do you see your ignorance somehow making you superior?

OK Republicans hold 40 state Senate seats to eight for Democrats. They hold 72 House seats to 28 for Democrats, with one seat vacant. and a Republicans holds the governor's office in Oklahoma. This is their fuck up. Democrats don't write the bills, Republicans do. In the fall of 2017, a bill was introduced that increased the education budget and the few OK Democratic Party legislators supported it. It went down due to Republican opposition.

The Oklahoma teachers strike is a Republican fuck up. They are the only ones who can fix it. It's all theirs

That article you posted contained errors that were easily seen through. The article was either written by an amateur or it was deliberately written that way. It stinks like the propaganda you tag this forum with daily.

Just exactly who was the recently Supreme Court Justice who gave the deciding decision in the ruling against the California Teacher's union? Who appointed him? Contrast what federal Republicans are doing with Democrats in my state.

In my state the Public Employee's Retirement System (PERS) is under threat by Republicans. .Republicans want to break PERS because it doesn't think the state should honor its contractual agreements. Democrats control all three branches of government here. Instead of trying to break the PERS the government is committed to find funding to pay retirees the pensions they are due
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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ttystikk said:
The results of a study done on the reporting of tax policy by the New York Times and the USA today, showing a clear and ongoing bias against the general public'' interest in progressive tax policy;

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2018/04/americans-hatred-taxes-fake-news.html

Smogdog, don't read this. It will only confuse your omniscient grasp of world events and their coverage.

For everyone else, this is more evidence that neoliberalism has infected America's mass media for decades.

Small wonder we're in so much fiscal trouble.
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nakedcapitalism is a propaganda site that pushes the right wing agenda. Anything that comes from that site is suspect.
 
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