The "D" day pool, best guess as to when Trump is out

DIY-HP-LED

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Deripaska Goes From Famous Russian Billionaire to Global Outcast in Just Three Days
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-09/deripaska-s-fall-from-davos-man-to-global-outcast-in-three-days
  • Rusal shares plunged on Monday, losing 50 percent in Hong Kong
  • Kremlin is considering ways to support sanctioned companies
At Davos this year, Oleg Deripaska threw a party with champagne, Russian folk dancers and a performance by Enrique Iglesias. Now the Russian billionaire is on an international blacklist usually reserved for terrorists and warlords.

On Friday, the U.S. aimed its toughest sanctions at Deripaska’s metals empire, banning Americans from dealing with companies including United Co. Rusal. As the drastic nature of Washington’s move became clear on Monday, the biggest aluminum producer outside China lost half its value in one day.

"This is economic murder of the company," according to a senior executive at a trading house, who asked not to be identified talking about a customer.

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Think he's pissed at Manafort for ensnaring him in this shit to make a debt go away? He's in bed with Vlad, but this shit just about made him a prisoner in Russia. If the FBI were to get their hands on him, who knows what secret indictments they might come up with. When Trump is out of office the pain will only increase.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Trump slams FBI for raid of his personal attorney's office
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/09/politics/donald-trump-fbi-michael-cohen/index.html
Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump slammed the FBI raid on his personal attorney Michael Cohen's office and hotel room as a "disgraceful situation" and "an attack on our country."

"I just heard that they broke into the office of one of my personal attorneys. Good man. And it's a disgraceful situation. It's a total witch hunt," Trump said Monday, referring to a lawful FBI raid.
"It's an attack on our country," Trump said. "It's an attack on what we all stand for."
The President also criticized Attorney General Jeff Sessions for recusing himself from the special counsel investigation, saying, "the attorney general made a terrible mistake."
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Trump is about to freak out! The FBI kicked in the door! Wire fraud and bank fraud are on the table. Considering Cohen's office is next door to Trump's and there's a 100% chance Trump is involved.

Cue Scottie Pruitt for AG, looks like Jeff might be fired by tweet soon! Constitutional crises here we come, cause Donald is gonna go off the deep end!
 
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Sour Wreck

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i am sure trump is scheming to get to mueller now. i hope he fires him. if republicans don't act then, all bets are off for democracy. we will be moving close to civil war...
 

DIY-HP-LED

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i am sure trump is scheming to get to mueller now. i hope he fires him. if republicans don't act then, all bets are off for democracy. we will be moving close to civil war...
Just watching Donald's reaction on TV, he's winding up to fire the AG, Rosenstein and Mueller. No need for civil war the courts are gonna weigh in soon.

I figure Mitch and Paul will pounce when Trump reels out enough rope to hang himself, they want him gone ASAP and are hoping he will take the bait. If he is POTUS during the midterm the senate will be in play for sure and the house gone with a big majority for the democrats.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I'd say the shit is about to hit the fan, Trump needs a war for a distraction to fire Mueller and Putin provided one in Syria for him. Bolton is a war horse and will go to war in Syria or Korea and maybe even Iran, though I'm sure Mattis told him he would kill him with his bare hands if he kills US troops over something stupid.
 

Sour Wreck

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Just watching Donald's reaction on TV, he's winding up to fire the AG, Rosenstein and Mueller. No need for civil war the courts are gonna weigh in soon.

I figure Mitch and Paul will pounce when Trump reels out enough rope to hang himself, they want him gone ASAP and are hoping he will take the bait. If he is POTUS during the midterm the senate will be in play for sure and the house gone with a big majority for the democrats.
you give american republicans too much credit. these people are slim bucket, scum of the earth, fucked in the head neanderthals and a war is what had to straighten their asses out back in the mid 1800's... why do i have to live in country that is so great, yet we have a multitude of fucking, idiot losers. god damn they are stupid
 

DIY-HP-LED

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you give american republicans too much credit. these people are slim bucket, scum of the earth, fucked in the head neanderthals and a war is what had to straighten their asses out back in the mid 1800's... why do i have to live in country that is so great, yet we have a multitude of fucking, idiot losers. god damn they are stupid
It's just that Donald has bunched up all the arseholes and drawn them to his banner where eventually they and the GOP will be marginalized. The vast majority of people are not on the side of Trump or his buddies, the GOP is losing support by the day and when the scandals hit the courts they will lose more.

It appears this raid on Cohen's office started with the Stormy Daniels affair and a $130K payment! They are gonna give that woman a freedom medal one day and hang it on a ribbon between those two huge tits.

Trump sure looks rattled on TV, I figure he's gonna do something stupid soon.
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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This week might see the beginning of the doing of the Donald, depending on his reaction over the next week. He'll need to get the war going in Syria first, then fire Mueller when there's something bigly distracting happening. Getting a few hundred US troops killed in Syria would be a good distraction for Donald and would make up to Vlad for the 300 russian mercenaries the US army slaughtered a couple of weeks ago.
 

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Trump lashes out as Cohen raid fuses Russia probe and Stormy case
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/10/politics/michael-cohen-donald-trump-white-house/index.html
Washington (CNN)There could be dark and unprecedented times ahead.

The FBI raid against Michael Cohen spiked President Donald Trump's rampant indignation over the Robert Mueller probe to previously unseen heights, multiplying the persecution complex he feels about the FBI and his own Justice Department and fueling his sense he's the target of a witch hunt.
And it suggests that Cohen, who paid off adult film star Stormy Daniels, could be a bridge between the two separate legal strands threatening Trump.
"There is no way that they are looking for things that don't connect to the President in some way," Anne Milgram, a former New Jersey attorney general told CNN's Anderson Cooper of the Cohen raid. "It really is an unbelievable day when you start to think about what is happening, what we are going to see next."
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This could cause Donald to act impulsively, they got Cohen cold and Donald might pardon him, but they won't be in any hurry to charge him with anything. They've got tons of paper to go through and that's what will hang Cohen and Donald many times over, Donald knows what Donald did which is why he looks so nervous! A best case scenario for Donald would be to go from the white house to the jailhouse at the end of his term. I don't think he will make it till summer and will probably trigger his own impeachment with an impulsive dumbass move. He looked like he was gonna shit a brick on TV yesterday!
 

greg nr

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I suspect trump is actually enjoying this. Not only is this story ALL about trump, it is sealing his place in history.

Really, trump doesn't care "How" he is remembered.. What he cares about is "That" he is remembered, and that his place in history is prominent and often referenced.

He would be happy if Nixon were forgotten and he was the one pointed to as the "Most" corrupt, "Most" criminal potus in history.

At his core, that is what drives him. The world does in fact rotate around him. And everything, and everyone, is expendable because life is about him, and everyone needs to acknowledge that.
 

Sour Wreck

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I suspect trump is actually enjoying this. Not only is this story ALL about trump, it is sealing his place in history.

Really, trump doesn't care "How" he is remembered.. What he cares about is "That" he is remembered, and that his place in history is prominent and often referenced.

He would be happy if Nixon were forgotten and he was the one pointed to as the "Most" corrupt, "Most" criminal potus in history.

At his core, that is what drives him. The world does in fact rotate around him. And everything, and everyone, is expendable because life is about him, and everyone needs to acknowledge that.
we as the american people need to rotate a rope around his neck.

pay-per-view, money goes to destroy any politician that supported trump.
 

greg nr

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Meowwwch.... Very well turned phrase!

https://www.thedailybeast.com/fbi-raid-on-michael-cohen-is-the-most-dangerous-day-of-donald-trumps-life?ref=home

The rest of the article is just as good!

Suddenly, Michael Cohen, the bag-walking, dick-swinging swagger-monkey wannabe thug attorney and consigliere for Donald Trump’s far-flung penile enterprises is scared. If Cohen had a lump of coal in his ass the moment those search warrants arrived, he could have popped out a diamond. He realizes how deep this hole can become if he doesn’t roll over. He doesn’t have the resources to defend himself, and Trump isn’t exactly known for paying his bills in the first place. Cohen is scared, and he’s not alone.​
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I suspect trump is actually enjoying this. Not only is this story ALL about trump, it is sealing his place in history.

Really, trump doesn't care "How" he is remembered.. What he cares about is "That" he is remembered, and that his place in history is prominent and often referenced.

He would be happy if Nixon were forgotten and he was the one pointed to as the "Most" corrupt, "Most" criminal potus in history.

At his core, that is what drives him. The world does in fact rotate around him. And everything, and everyone, is expendable because life is about him, and everyone needs to acknowledge that.
People like Donald don't live in the moment, but for the moment and avoiding embarrassment in that moment, yesterday doesn't exist and should not be pondered. People like Donald have no sense of reverence, the scared, or history and like empathy, he doesn't have the mental equipment to experience it. Donald is more a collection of bad habits and traits than a fully functioning personality. In essence he is developmentally truncated and is emotionally and socially retarded.

I don't think Donald is enjoying this at all, he can experience base emotions like fear and anger and that's what's going on now. He can still feel a red hot poker shoved up his ass though, metaphorically speaking that is.;)
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Meowwwch.... Very well turned phrase!

https://www.thedailybeast.com/fbi-raid-on-michael-cohen-is-the-most-dangerous-day-of-donald-trumps-life?ref=home

The rest of the article is just as good!

Suddenly, Michael Cohen, the bag-walking, dick-swinging swagger-monkey wannabe thug attorney and consigliere for Donald Trump’s far-flung penile enterprises is scared. If Cohen had a lump of coal in his ass the moment those search warrants arrived, he could have popped out a diamond. He realizes how deep this hole can become if he doesn’t roll over. He doesn’t have the resources to defend himself, and Trump isn’t exactly known for paying his bills in the first place. Cohen is scared, and he’s not alone.​
Cohen is in trouble and might even be pardon bait for Trump, but I figure if they are serious they will threaten him with a lifetime in jail, but won't charge him until Trump is removed from office. Even if Trump were to pardon him I figure they could still make him talk and he can't plead the 5th. Cohen must be sitting on hundreds of NDAs with women and lacky's, not to mention a ton of money laundering shit and other sleazery. Besides he knows everything about Trump and Mueller will want to know it all.
 

greg nr

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Cohen is in trouble and might even be pardon bait for Trump, but I figure if they are serious they will threaten him with a lifetime in jail, but won't charge him until Trump is removed from office. Even if Trump were to pardon him I figure they could still make him talk and he can't plead the 5th. Cohen must be sitting on hundreds of NDAs with women and lacky's, not to mention a ton of money laundering shit and other sleazery. Besides he knows everything about Trump and Mueller will want to know it all.
For at least the bank fraud charges, they have equivalent NY laws. Bank fraud is in the mix because he claims he used a heloc to get the money to pay cliffords. If he didn't disclose that to the bank (intended use of funds is a required field), that constitutes fraud. Also, the way he transferred the money also opens him up to banking fraud charges. It could even be called money laundering since he hid the origins and purpose from regulators.

So a pardon would/could/might clear him of federal charges, but he could still be in for years of pain at rikers. NY doesn't have fancy white collar prisons like the feds do. Depending on the charges and how many years he got, he might not even get a min security prison. Those go to people eligible for work release and have short term, nonviolent offense sentences. Cohen could be a flight risk, so no min sec for him.

He's got a few phases of grief to go through, and then he will flip.
 

Justin-case

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For at least the bank fraud charges, they have equivalent NY laws. Bank fraud is in the mix because he claims he used a heloc to get the money to pay cliffords. If he didn't disclose that to the bank (intended use of funds is a required field), that constitutes fraud. Also, the way he transferred the money also opens him up to banking fraud charges. It could even be called money laundering since he hid the origins and purpose from regulators.

So a pardon would/could/might clear him of federal charges, but he could still be in for years of pain at rikers. NY doesn't have fancy white collar prisons like the feds do. Depending on the charges and how many years he got, he might not even get a min security prison. Those go to people eligible for work release and have short term, nonviolent offense sentences. Cohen could be a flight risk, so no min sec for him.

He's got a few phases of grief to go through, and then he will flip.
Ah yes, similar to the charges Dennis hastert was convicted of, good catch.
 
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