And yet that small 4% did you say? pay $12 Billion in taxes they’ll never see..the door swings both ways BUT only one way at a time
China declares the war is on, and troops deployed to Mexican border
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Fogdog
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You aren't a progressive. Bernie isn't a progressive either. He's an independent who hasn't made any progress in his 12 years as a Senator.
zeddd
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Fify
whitebb2727
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Its just one that I picked. My personal expienece with it also leads me to believe that illegal immigrants make up other fields besides farming.
I've lived and worked in several large farming communities. They hire legal workers and follow the law on providing housing, food and such.
I don't doubt there are illegal immigrants here.
Another link that states illegals make up a small portion of farm workers.
https://www.agriculture.com/farm-management/business-planning/undocumented-farm-labor-small-portion-of-illegal-immigrants
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/pew-72-of-illegals-have-jobs-biggest-in-construction
There are more links that say similar.
From what I've seen I believe it.
Fogdog
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Yep, two different statistics
National Review: 4% of all undocumented workers are farm laborers. They also say 25% of farm laborers are undocumented. This, I think comes from Pew research.
USDA: About 50% of farm laborers are undocumented.
I think that farmers get pissed when they can't find enough workers. It's consumers who get pissed when they have to pay more for farm produce when labor costs or delays in production cause price rises.
This whole attack by Republicans on "illegal workers" is both recessionary and inflationary.
Of course, tariffs and trade wars are too. Trump's simply a shitty president and so is his GOP congress.
whitebb2727
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I never made any claims about taxes. Whats your point?And yet that small 4% did you say? pay $12 Billion in taxes they’ll never see..the door swings both ways BUT only one way at a time
That 12 billion in taxes is from all illegals. Not farmers.
Abiqua
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Hmmm...China imports nearly 37% of their soybeans from us, Brazil cannot supply that demand if China cuts it and Argentina, 3rd in the world in production, has a huge shortage going on this harvest season. You cant scale farms ups quick enough...
We grow enough food to export, China doesnt, that fact alone proves what brainless hyperbole, some are offering here.
Tariffs have all been mainly on fluff items.
Most of accounts here I am guessing are of individuals fronting little ticky tacky grow related companies, that are going to have their subsidized ride ended.
Lol
We grow enough food to export, China doesnt, that fact alone proves what brainless hyperbole, some are offering here.
Tariffs have all been mainly on fluff items.
Most of accounts here I am guessing are of individuals fronting little ticky tacky grow related companies, that are going to have their subsidized ride ended.
Lol
UncleBuck
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all tariffs have been on goods bought and used by americans.
trump's retarded tariffs are just a tax on everyday americans
only cucks like you defend it
Jimdamick
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I think she was being sarcastic
Fogdog
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Thank for the lecture on what nobody asked.
Tariffs are soundly rebuked as tools for balancing trade. You didn't ask but I figured you'd want to know.
ttystikk
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Never miss a chance to smear, no matter how irrelevant.
You do more hard to your causes than good- to the point where few even know what they are, just that you're the worst kind of angry keyboard warrior.
ttystikk
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How would you know, blue dog?
Fogdog
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I know that a few solar water heaters on some federal buildings isn't what most would call progress.
ttystikk
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Funny how you're AGAINST Bernie Sanders with nearly every post you can hammer out but you are far less forgiving about candidates you're FOR.
This is exactly my problem with establishment Democrats like yourself. Sling mud but can't work on solutions.
Are you a bot? Or just bought?
Fogdog
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I'm against calling Bernie a progressive when all he's done after 12 years as Senator is get a few solar water heaters installed on fed buildings. Senators hold a powerful office but you are happy with a few solar water heaters. You call that progress. I think we should hold our Senators to higher standards than that.
What solutions has Sanders ever managed to bring into law?
His healthcare plan that you ballyhooed didn't go anywhere either. Then again, it was a poorly written bill. I don't call that progress either.
Do you think progressive is just a label? I think it should mean somebody who makes progress.
Fogdog
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dandyrandy
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A lot of food processors use North Africans. Kansas in fact where the 3 white guys are on trial for allegedly planning attacks recently. Tons of legals and people with bad ss numbers work in slaughter houses. Funny side note a sherrif in a certain county cracked down on illegals. One of the Koch brothers businesses got raided. Chicken processing etc. 1/2 of the work force arrested. I knew 2 maintenance guys there. The next day temp services supplied workers to keep the place going. Within 3 months everything was back to normal and the local popo kept out. My friends said it was hilarious. Temps would last maybe a day. Tough work. They paid $15 and benefits plus ot. This was 7 years ago or so.
vostok
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you must be careful of sneaky commie tricks
as your army abuses Mexicans
Chinese sneak in by the millons in container ships
you be speaking Chinese next week ...friend
as a last and only last resort
you can quote me ....lol
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