Fox Farm Happy Frog and Ocean Forest ratio

[Olive Drab Green]

Ocean forest is not too hot of a soil. It's never burned a seedling. My plants thrive in it. I've mixed it with happy frog 50/50 and it was great. I've yet to have any gnat problems other than when I grow outdoors with it. The gnats are all over it outdoors. Great soil. Don't listen to the morons like @UncleBuck

Actually, FFOF is notorious for being a hot supersoil. People burn pretty often, particularly planting seedlings in it undiluted, I believe. Mixed with Happy Frog should make it a bit easier, though. I prefer soilless organic mediums to actual soil, personally.

 

[UncleBuck]

Actually, FFOF is notorious for being a hot supersoil. People burn pretty often, particularly planting seedlings in it undiluted, I believe.

yeah, and it has fungus gnats too

 

[_Waldo_]

It’s misinformation you are appreciating. Bad storage is how pottin soil gets infected. And then bad gardening practices like overwatering and over crowding.

For the most part,

Elemental from Roots Organics is your Cal/Mag, and it’s fish protein-based.

 

[_Waldo_]

Ocean forest is not too hot of a soil. It's never burned a seedling. My plants thrive in it. I've mixed it with happy frog 50/50 and it was great. I've yet to have any gnat problems other than when I grow outdoors with it. The gnats are all over it outdoors. Great soil. Don't listen to the morons like @UncleBuck

I’m enjoying the debate. Personally, I like FFOF and HF. Just wondering what other thought and how I can make it better and or adjust for any shortcomings. IE: gnats...

 

[UncleBuck]

i used roots organic because they don't have gnats unlike FFOF

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

Actually, FFOF is notorious for being a hot supersoil. People burn pretty often, particularly planting seedlings in it undiluted, I believe. Mixed with Happy Frog should make it a bit easier, though. I prefer soilless organic mediums to actual soil, personally.

It is a Grow medium not a supersoil. And it is fox farms premium product designed for container gardening.

I just put up pics of perfectly healthy seedlings in it from sprout and have for a couple years now.

 

[TrailBlazer12747]

Actually, FFOF is notorious for being a hot supersoil. People burn pretty often, particularly planting seedlings in it undiluted, I believe.

I've never had an issue.

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

i used roots organic because they don't have gnats unlike FFOF

There are plenty of roots organic has gnats threads too. Lol. No soil has gnats unless they are attracted to it and it stays wet.

 

[UncleBuck]

FFOF burns seedlings and has fungus gnats because they bag it wet

 

[Olive Drab Green]

I've never had an issue.

That’s good.

For the most part,

Also, Uprising Foundation.

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

FFOF burns seedlings and has fungus gnats because they bag it wet

I think your brain is wet.

 

[TrailBlazer12747]

FFOF burns seedlings and has fungus gnats because they bag it wet

Just stop embarrassing yourself

 

[grassy007]

watch out for gnats, i forgor about ff issues with bugs, been a while since i used it and i just mixed up a batch of soil and three weeks late the mix has hella gnats.

I used Happy Frog soil and got white flies which I can only trace back to the Happy Frog soil. It wasn't a big deal because white flies are harmless and mostly like buzzing around the lights. Hanging a couple of sticky ribbons had them all sticking to it within 24 hours.

 

[UncleBuck]

I used Happy Frog soil and got white flies which I can only trace back to the Happy Frog soil. It wasn't a big deal because white flies are harmless and mostly like buzzing around the lights. Hanging a couple of sticky ribbons had them all sticking to it within 24 hours.

that's a very common experience with ocean forest products from what i have heard

 

[_Waldo_]

Actually the experience in the forum is anecdotal compared to the millions of bags they keep selling nationwide.

Experienced Growers know most of the crap said here is myth. And anyone not taking forum advice blind would have likely read a Grow or gardening book and they all warn of soil storage.

It is almost never the products causing any of the problems.

Thank you for keeping this thread informative.

Weather the soil has gnats or not, it would be beneficial for everyone if we talk about remedies for fungus gnats pertaining to someone using FFOF/FFHF.

Storage seems like a start.

I myself have started companion planting to help help rid my soil of gnats wether they are present or not.

Growing out doors I’m going to assume there’s a potential regardless if gnats were present in the soil to begin with.

 

[_Waldo_]

I would have to say 70-2 because I have never had fungus gnats

3/70

-Waldo

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

that's a very common experience with ocean forest products from what i have heard

Ocean forest is a different product than happy frog. Both made by fox farms. Guess you aren’t sure what you heard.

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

Thank you for keeping this thread informative.

Weather the soil has gnats or not, it would be beneficial for everyone if we talk about remedies for fungus gnats pertaining to someone using FFOF/FFHF.

Storage seems like a start.

I myself have started companion planting to help help rid my soil of gnats wether they are present or not.

Growing out doors I’m going to assume there’s a potential regardless if gnats were present in the soil to begin with.

If you notice the gnat attractors comments the common theme is that the gnats came 3 weeks later not right away.

This fact alone precludes the bugs coming from the soil. The Grow attracted them.

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

3/70

-Waldo

I want to see this “70” side. Sure isn't in this thread.

 

[Chip Green]

70/4